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  • #13
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    I'd rather impeach and convict every last one of our elected officials of treason, since every last one of them has been treasonous - taking an oath to uphold the Constitution and then ignoring it to push whatever right-wing or left-wing agenda they can use to line their pockets. I don't necessarily agree with everything the Constitution says or has ever said, but that doesn't mean you can just ignore it - if you think it's wrong, get it amended, then push your agenda / line your pockets within the updated framework.
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    Hear hear!

    It's not even their own agenda! It's the agenda of those who bribe them. Politicians are scum by nature simply because they have no stance of their own, it's the stance of where the money that keeps them rich comes from.
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    @thismonkey Absolutely - I know that a lot of so-called small government types and libertarians were excited about the recent SCOTUS decisions allowing even more bribery, but that is one issue on which I definitely differ with them. I'm all for "free speech", but how can anyone be heard when the guy next to them has a megaphone? Granted, if there wasn't so much for sale, people wouldn't spend so much to buy politicians, but until we can get the government back down to a manageable level, we should try to limit the buying and selling of legislation as much as possible.
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    @TheSaltMiner I think its more of an issue of integrity than of government size. Don't get me wrong. Government needs a downsizing. But if honesty isn't the main crutch, it probably wouldn't matter.
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    @Roco That's definitely true, but then again, few would perceive a need for government at all if people were honest in their dealings with one another...
  • #118
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    There we go. We the citizens need a way to have a national referendum on all of the government congress and the administration.
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  • #35
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    I don't understand the American voter. There is a disease in which the (Stockholm syndrome) just 'membered. When did the American dream become a delusion in which we identify more with oppressive corporations than out fellow citizens. Sad.
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    Last I checked my weekly checks were written off corporate checking accounts for amounts of money I negotiated for.
    I'm happy, I'm making money and have absolutely no idea why you think it necessary to wage a war with corporate America.

    That is unless, you're a socialist and then I completely understand. I'll save everyone my socialist character assessment.
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    America is being duped as we speak---

    Lest we forget--

    Saul Alinsky died about 43 years ago, but his writings influenced those in political control of our nation today.......

    Books: Rules for Radicals, Reveille for Radicals
    Anyone out there think that this stuff isn't happening today in the U.S., hmmm?
    All eight rules are currently in play--

    How to create a socialist state, by Saul Alinsky:

    "There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a socialist state. The first is the most important.

    1) Healthcare– Control healthcare and you control the people.

    2) Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible; poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

    3) Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

    4) Gun Control– Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

    5) Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).

    6) Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.

    7) Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.

    8) Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

    Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States ?

    Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for world conquest by communism under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as "Useful Idiots."

    The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S."

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire

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    @S-N-A-F-U ooh, that sounds so scary.
    Too bad it is completely made up. Are you purposefully lying as some kind of right wing propagandist or just really gullible? Alinsky didn't write this list of bullshite. That makes you dumber than a useful idiot, doesn't it? What do you call the rightwing version of "useful idiot" anyway? "Dittohead" wouldn't work because you guys are so proud to parrot propaganda without any basis in fact.
  • #214
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    Where to begin...
    1: True capitalism and socialist systems don't exist.
    2: Class warfare existed prior to monetary systems and continues in natural selection today.
    3: Education is key to destroying nations... Primarily by substituting education with the "purposeful suspension of facts" ie faith.

    Lastly (otherwise I'd go forever"; I support corporations i invest in. Try my best to destroy the others. And i refute with animous the idea of co. being granted rights like people, or buying votes or influence of laws. Spineless corrupt greedy politicians and ignorant constituents are destroying America.
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    @stepped_in_it So you support giving tax breaks to help corporations move their factories overseas?
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    @bwstack HMMM.....do you also see Bigfoot when you look at pictures of a forest?
    Now, tell me where you see "I support tax breaks" in my 2 statements?
    Unlike you, I read BOTH sides of an argument. I just don't do what I'm told <and I did not play well with others when I was a kid>
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    @stepped_in_it Well, stepped it in, if you "read both sides" why did you post that link? The Joint Committee on Taxation determined that the tax breaks this law would provide to on-shoring corporations would cost Americans a little more than $21 million a year. But, hey, some dufus Forbes knows better than the Joint Committee on Taxation in your book, I guess .
    Also, the bottom line is that the bill would have ended tax breaks given as Bon Voyage presents to deserter corporations. Do you favor continuing to do that or not? Clearly Republicans favor continuing to give our money away to these deserters.
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    @stepped_in_it I used the exact same link in my reply just before finding you beat me to it! Good job!
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  • #83
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    Let's not forget that our elected representatives...republicans AND democrats...write our laws including tax laws. Not corporations, not big banks, not big oil, not unions, and not old rich white guys. If you're not happy with the government don't keep elected the same people and expect different government policies.
  • #217
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    You're kidding right, Corporations and special interest write legislation all the time. Ever hear of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC)?
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    @Wafflecone "The American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) is a 501(c)(3) organization of conservative state legislators and private sector representatives that shares and drafts model state-level legislation for distribution among the United States"

    Anybody can write "model legislation" but model legislation is not law.

    Perhaps I should of said "Let's not forget that our elected representatives...republicans AND democrats...PASS our laws including tax laws"
  • #252
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    There isn't a politician in either House that has the skills to write a legislative Bill, much less actually read them or pretend to understand them. These folks just read the talking-point scripts the DNC and RNC hand them to repetitively drone on endlessly to the public in their 20 and 30 second CNN/MSNBC/FOX soundbites.
    You actually thought these cretins put pen to paper and wrote bills? That takes actual Technical Writing skills..........the most skilled folks in Congress are the lawyers, and even they just underpay some young 120wpm starlet to work with other skilled Bill writers and the corrupt corporations who dream this shit up. Politicians are just Freak Show barkers.
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    @Ah-Yup Lobbyists don't make law.

    My point is if we're unhappy with our laws, the tax code, government policy, etc blame our elected representatives.
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  • #67
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    Quite frankly I am not interested in useless, frivolous, aimless lawsuits whether by the Republicans or Democrats. I'm interested in these clowns working together for the betterment of our society.
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    YESSSS SUE CONGRESS!!! Let's be real the gop planed to do NOT work w/Obama from day1. They also planed to do nothing to HELP THE AMERICAN PPL cause they that would help Obama. SUE those who have DONE NOTHING!!!
  • #133
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    You mean except for they got voted into office by their constituents on the promises of stopping a lot Obama's agenda? It's called the people's house for a reason. There is a big reason why they have such short terms and the senate has longer terms. If you think the shoe was on the other foot that the dems would work with a republican president if they controlled the house?

    What about all the bills that the house has passed and have been tabled by Reid without even hitting the senate floor? Or is just obstruction when your side isn't doing it?

    You can't be this blind. Both parties are the same. They just pretend to be different.
  • #150
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    @DrAwesome Do the math, the numbers are completely one sided, the Republicans (Not my fathers Republicans) are the undisputed kings of obstructionism.
  • #161
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    @DrAwesome Not blind to facts!! Obama won TWICE so this ment Americans wanted his VISION PLANS & IDEAS. Americans rejected the gop TWICE!! Republicans jus won the congress but show me anywhere in history where a 2 term prez doesn't get 80% of what he wants? DEMS let Bush get 80% of what he wanted & that's why the market crashed. FACT Repubs place in history is clear most unproductive congress in history. A small tent party w/noooo future meanwhile Obama's place in history will be fine.
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    @Rider
    So a multitude of bills have not passed the house and died at the hands of the senate leader? You really are aaying that?

    I'm not a fan of either party but there is plenty of obstructionism and political games going on on both sides of the aisle. The president in those situations is supposed to be a mediator. He has not done that. Instead he just insults congress and whines on national tv about how they won't work with him. Clinton somehow did it. At least he was a leader.
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    @poeticjustice although it's a waste of time because I can tell that you would back hitler as long as he sported a D behind his name, I will respond.

    Americans rejected two conservative candidates. They did however elect several conservative house members and remove several democrat house members. So you can't claim everyone wanted Obama. He didn't win by landslide. He got my vote in 2008. Then I figured out he was worse than any other president in terms of lies. So I voted for Obama light. Also known as Romney.

    The market crashed because of horrible mortgages being given to people who couldn't afford them under government pressure. That law was passed under Clinton. Learn your history and drop the partisan BS.
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  • #101
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    Unless our Democratic Leadership is totally asleep at the switch, they should beat that drum until the cows come home...I've got to believe that could cost the extremists some votes.
  • #105
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    If only the GOP was allowed to beat the NAFTA drum, they would have a chance against Hillary. Luckily for democrats, the 1% won't allow any reminder of all those jobs lost forever.
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    @jond414 Pretty funny that with all the harm it's done not a peep from the media or politicians.....what's up with that......
  • #155
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    I am not sure to what you are referring....with half of government fighting it every step of the way, how do we know what could have happened with a cooperative approach.
  • #90
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    I see that our elected "leaders" are nothing more than overgrown children. I'm surprised that they don't stand on either side of the aisle and stick their tongues out at each other, whilst sticking their thumbs in their ears and crossing their eyes....taunting "Na Na Ne Boo Boo!" Washington is full of immature, childish assclowns...
  • #115
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    You think it's possible they actually work together? this side says yes this side says and both knowing nothing is going to change. The two party system is failing us.
  • #143
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    What I find kind of funny is that this isn't serious and isn't an elected leader, but the GOP are our elected leaders and actually spending millions to do something like this.
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    @SSearan
    Hi SSearan...thanks for the link. My comment...eeeeeewwww. Why would we be so irresponsible? This doesn't make sense; do you know any more about this...the company, shipper, contract agreement?
  • #152
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    What is wrong is that no one can compete with an economic slave that works in a factory that pumps its pollution untreated into the sky and the ocean. That guy can't contribute to the "world economy" as he has little or no discretionary income but the guy who was fired when the job moved to China could and now there is less buying power in the us and the world.
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    @Rider And, as a bonus to exporting our jobs overseas, instead of the pollution involved being regulated here, it's cranking out unregulated crap over there; and we can point our fingers and complain about how the Chinese are doing all the pollution, making stuff for us to buy cheap. We've outsourced both jobs, and pollution. Who said capitalism doesn't work?
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    LMAO. Gerard, you prove once again why you are nothing but a hack. Comparing apples to oranges. The GOP is suing your leftist messiah because he is violating the constitution. dumbo CAN NOT make law. He can not CHANGE law by himself. That's congress's job. If you don't like congress not making law that you want, then vote them out.
    If you want corporations to come back to the U.S., why don't you lobby your messiah and the socialist party to drastically slash corporate taxes to entice them to come back. Cities do it ALL THE DAMN TIME. Instead, people like you want to punish business for escaping the heaviest in the world taxes.
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    Corporate like individual taxes all need to be rewritten. This administration had 2013 to do that but they got of on gun grabbing. ignored the elephant and gorilla in the living room and again this fall we will have to go through the same childish budget fight.
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    @Saving_USA
    How? there are no way to do that. It requires a referendum. The system we currently have is set in stone. One or two "independents will do no real good. It will require get a significant minority that will work together.
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    Unions are going to sue? One greedy do nothing group wants to sue another greedy do nothing group.....how ironically sad and twisted.....
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    Unions, the organizations that brought you the 40-hour work week, they're the greedy ones in your book. Right, sure, that's the ticket.
  • #45
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    @bwstack You bought that lie? Must be a union drone.

    The decision to reduce the workweek from six to five days had originally been made in 1922. According to an article published in The New York Times that March, Edsel Ford, Henry's son and the company's president, explained that "Every man needs more than one day a week for rest and recreation....The Ford Company always has sought to promote [an] ideal home life for its employees. We believe that in order to live properly every man should have more time to spend with his family."
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    @drpeeper That is actually not true Dr. Peeper. The origin of the 8 hour day in the U.S. began with a less lofty goal of 10 hours per day and has its roots in the labor unions.

    In the United States, Philadelphia carpenters went on strike in 1791 for the ten-hour day. By the 1830s, this had become a general demand. In 1835, workers in Philadelphia organized the first general strike in North America, led by Irish coal heavers. Their banners read, "From 6 to 6, ten hours work and two hours for meals."

    Labor movement publications called for an "eight-hour day" as early as 1836. Boston ship carpenters, although not unionized, achieved an eight-hour day in 1842.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-hour_day#U...
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    @bwstack Yes, you are correct. The origins of the 8 hour day trace back to a 10 hour day with 2 hours of meals.
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  • #190
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    Under 'tax inversion laws', U S Corporations can act 'as if' they were a foreign company when 'paying their taxes', but continue to enjoy the huge Government benefits of being an American-based company without contributing a dime . Can you imagine the outcry from Fox News and Republicans if poor people could pretend to be 'foreigners' so they don't have to pay their taxes , but continue to receive Government social and economic relief?

    "Today, a group of Democratic Senate leaders called on President Barack Obama to circumvent Congress and act alone to curtail tax benefits for US companies that relocate overseas. Here's what you need to know about the "tax inversion" trend, as well as a new solution to the multi-billion dollar problem." http://billmoyers.com/2014/07/15/a-simplified...
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    This op-ed is nothing but bull crap, first half of the congress is the senate. The senate who will not bring repub legislation to the floor for a vote. Limits amendments and debate, and have used the nuclear option to push partisan agenda , which at one time they deplored. Harry Reid and the senate is as responsible as anyone in DC for not getting work done.
  • #134
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    Shhh

    It's only obstruction when your party can't run ram shod over its opposition. Don't you know several folks want an oligarchy rather than a republic?
  • #253
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    Although I partially agree about Reid, suggesting he would open any House Bill in the Senate with a "repeal ObamaCare" earmark is ludicrous.
    Were there many House BIlls that magically did NOT contain those earmarks in the fine print?
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    Gerard connects the "Bring Jobs Home Act" with an Obama campaign promise from way back in 2008. Well, Mr. Gerard, the Democrats held the house and senate for two full years between 2008 and 2010. Where was the "Bring Jobs Home Act" way back than? I'll answer: No where to be found. They were too busy with the "Stimulus", "Cash for Clunkers", and "ObamaCare", which were supposed to fix everything.

    The reality is, the "Bring Jobs Home" act was just another Democrat sham:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2014/07/2...
  • #110
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    This is part of the dirty secret that is the dems, they waited until it could not pass because they know it's bad legislation. But as long as you have the lemmings of the press and leftists posters here it doesn't matter. Ignorance and a lack of having to deal with reality are the best friends of the dem party.
  • #145
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    They passed the stimulus that took us from losing 200k jobs a week to steady, but slow recovery for 5 years. Maybe you enjoyed the time where we were hemorrhaging 800 thousand jobs a month. I did not.

    And nobody takes Forbes seriously.
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    @WoodyKC
    You must be havin a bad dream. The only "lemmings" are the folks that cheered and watched the House just craft an utterly unpassable deportation "show Bill", a day late and 3 billion dollars short, AFTER the Senate already went on vacation.
    Who is just palying games again? Who is "suing" the President> Who is sending up Impeachment test balloons, knowing full well actually filing ne Impeachment paper instantly causes the House to be lost to Democrats? Better turn that tin foil bathing cap around and get it back to magnetic North.

    Remember nnow, your Tea Party heros "workig to save America" in the House have only 27 days of work left until New Year's, while all of the real workers in America work another 90-105 days until 12/31/14. Who is not dealing with reality?
  • #261
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    @Unfit2serve You aren't thinking the Senate could not have held over for a bill, it's not even unusual, but guess it's not important. I actually think there is a foundation for the lawsuit but it doesn't really matter, it's off the side in a committee not impacting the ability of the congress to continue. You also compare the Constitutional days specified versus everyone else, are you ignorant or just another person trying to make an issue where none exists?

    Yes the economy is just going great, higher cost of living, including taxes and health care, lower pay, and the lowest involvement in the workforce in a century. So you can continue to live in your delusion, like thinking dumping theses kids in the US and spending $3 billion to cover the cost is a good thing, I'll look at the facts and the direction of the country. The President's main job is foreign affairs, another area where his skills are shown to be non-existent outside of deliverying meaningless speeches and the golf course.
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    @WoodyKC
    "the dems, they waited until it could not pass because they know it's bad legislation."
    How silly of the Republicans to have fallen for it, then.
    I presume that the dems did not wait with Obamacare because they know it's not bad legislation. How silly of the Republicans to have opposed it then.
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  • #11
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    Do you want to help break the marriage between corporations and the government? Then support the fair tax!
  • #121
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    No I won't. I read that monstrosity and will not ever vote or promote such an evil device to harm the American public.
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    @Fitz
    Not at all. After reading it it would be a complete disaster. It seems to be simple, but the consequences would be catastrophic. While some solutions to economic situations, seem simple they never are.
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