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    I watched the press conference and my first thought was the Chief is not in control of the Officers on the ground and that needs to change ASAP. Second thought was the damn Congress needs to stop the Pentagon program providing this military equipment to American Police Departments.
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    well, when criminals have access to high power automatic/military grade weapons, the police need to stay one step ahead of them. Sorry to inform you that most of these street gangs have an arsenal strong enough to take on the national guard in some cases.
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    That police sniper is armed with an AR15! A weapon designed for the battlefield and capable of mowing down hundreds of innocent people with its extra deadly 'high caliber' bullets! Oh, the horror!
    ;-)
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    Why would you hurt protestors?...and what deadly force has he been responding to?...this guy sounds like he's seen one too many action films and can't distinguish them from real life... Police Chief Thomas Jackson, you're fired...I wanted to be the first one to say...hopefully it will be official soon
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    @Medicinebow Unfortunately yes, maybe they will choose better next time they choose a police chief and other leaders.
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    @Medicinebow too bad the rioters are not locked up and forced to work it off no matter how long it takes. no others should pay for what these thugs did.
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    @tomincali The people who broke laws should pay the appropriate punishment under the law but the lawsuits will be about the violation of freedom of the press and the violation of individual citizen's constitutional rights, and the police are responsible for that, they are the ones who did it.
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    IF this is true, it fits with well with this clip from Hannity: http://crooksandliars.com/2014/08/ferguson-po...

    The chiefs account is completely different than what Brown's friend states at 0:24. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that his friend, in the video, may be going off to college as well. He certainly doesn't sound "ghetto" in how he describes the situation; in fact, the kid sounds quite educated.

    This kind of crap is why I can't stand Hannity.
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    I could not find an original source for that "What I'm satisfied is, we haven't hurt anyone" quote. Anyone see that on TV? It's the one quote that doesn't sound right for a bureaucrat.
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    Look at the post I put up from Hannity. The chiefs account is completely different from what Brown's friend says what happened. Add to that the treatment of the two reporters and I think you have an out of control police department that thinks it's above the law.
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    @methinks @yobyag @sas86

    Obviously the police department has some issues, but it's hard to tell more than that yet. The media coverage is what's most interesting to me. First sign of trouble: the press usually reports the witness statements as factual, and assume the police story is false.

    Then there's the context: is is really possible that a small suburb has a riot-control sized SWAT team? If that is true, the real story is "rampant overspending by crazed local government." I bet it's really the county's police doing most of the riot stuff, and the town police chief is taking the heat.

    My impression is that the Chief is a typical guy for that job, and the police as whole are typical as well; not especially newsworthy in themselves. But watch - the Chief will end up being made to say stuff like "what we have here is a failure to communicate."
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    @Ryuo - Yeah I find it hard to believe all that equipment is theirs. Makes no sense.

    Someone is going to have to back down first and you know if won't be police because they "fear for the public safety". Hopefully all the community leaders over there will talk some sense into folks before anyone else dies.
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    Seeing how the police in this hick town are kitted out and armed......I think I would move. Perched up with AR15, large capacity magazines and scopes, really makes me feel like they "serve and protect." ...and the chief sounds like he previously worked for the "ministry of truth..."
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    Police be it Hick town in a red state or in a big city blue state are the same .

    'Us against them" seems to be the motto .

    Problem is even innocent civilians fall into the 'them'.
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    WTF is wrong with the cops in, Ferguson, MO? First shooting an unarmed kid. Now using tear gas and shooting at the press and peaceful protesters. Geez. I am starting to think they (police) have something to hide or cover-up.
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    @daclark1911 I'll read it and get back to you. Btw I'm NOT "looking" for a "reason" to criticize anyone. So for they are falling into my lap from the mouths of those invovled.
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    @daclark1911 Nope, you are wrong. From the link you provided there seems to be no reason for me to criticize state police.

    So I guess you will need to keep "watching" and "waiting" for more info on the state police's tatics to "see" if I am critical of them.
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    @Waynestew

    You've already criticized MHP and not savvy enough to know it. Missouri Highway Patrol, Sheriffs, PD and National Guard have joint training exercises. Have since before 2000 and sometimes use the same range, same instructors and training curriculum.
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    @daclark1911 Really? Which PD were the ones carrying out the behaviour presented in your link and other stories? Did not seem like it was said to be the MHP. Just because they train together does not mean they perform the same.

    As a bar & grill manager I trained several staff on how to "handle" problems. Does not guarantee they use the training when its time. Could be the case hear.

    Having said that IF the MHO is invovled is the behavior then Yes I will have criticism. It would be deserved.
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    Ferguson Police Chief Jackson and his entire department appear to be the present day version of the Keystone Kops. The significant difference is that the FPD is not incompetently funny but rather frighteningly incompetent. Chief Jackson stated early on that he was turning over the investigation to the County Police Chief and his department to handle the entire matter. However the subsequent Public/Media press conferences, as limited as they have been have, been headlined
    by him. This shows me that he is involved and therefore his credibility is questionably. How can he possibly provide updates and answer questions if he is not part of the investigation any longer? This makes no sense to me, additionally as of today, Thurs, 8/14, credible reports state that neither the FPD or County PD has even interviewed the key witness to the shooting, including Michael Brown's close friend who was walking along side him and who has first hand knowledge of the event, as well as other impartial spectators. It is undoubtedly this critical failure as well as other transparency issues which has fueled the concern and outrage of the Brown family and many of the other folks of the community

    From a number of credible outlets aside from Monday nights events where a relatively small group destroyed a convenience/gas station and vandalized, as well as looted another....virtually all other citizen protest have been of a peaceful nature. Again, according to a number of credible sources on Wednesday night the hybrid FPD/County Police came in with a large force of para military equipped officers in armed vehicles and cordoned off a peaceful
    citizen protest. According to these sources, at 9 pm the police made a bullhorn announcement that the protest was no longer peaceful and for the crowd to disperse...only 30 or so seconds later the police began firing tear gas canisters and shooting rubber pellets. Additionally in a related matter but in a different location the police shot tear gas at a media tv crew and dismantled their equipment. Additionally a group of officers roughed up and took 2 reporters from the local McDonald's into custody for trespassing...later to release them.

    The local PD are unquestionably out of control and acting in a manner which they have escalated. The police are violating the civil and constitutional rights of these folks under OUR First Amendment guarantees. We should all let it be known ,that this is not legal and we the people will not tolerate this suppression by OUR duly appointed authorities.

    " An INJUSTICE to even one person is an INJUSTCE to us all"
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    The continued attempts at covering the abject murder of Michael Brown by a vapid, incompetent Police Chief have become scorned by America. No matter what the toxicology reports tell us, no matter if the officer was wasted, or Brown was wasted, the facts are clear-this was evil, heinous murder of an unarmed teenager by a policeman who got his face slapped, and decided to exact his 180lbs of flesh in front of the horrified citizens of Ferguson, MO. No matter how many times the Ferguson Police Department plays Rambo dress-up, donning their unneeded "tactical" gear that they never should have been allowed to purchase on our taxpayer-funded dime in the first place, no matter how many more days local Law Enforcement stonewalls the media and the public and refuses to release the facts about this murder, justice will eventually prevail, and the murderer who is being protected by his complicit Police Chief and department will ultimately face justice.
    Americans, watch your television sets: The excessive over-militarization of our police departments and subsequent takedown of our civil liberties and rights has been brought to you by the fear-mongering tactics of the last Administration, our "mushroom clouds over America" gang, who funnelled billions of our dollars to sell Iraq War surplus equipment to every "law enforcement" agency in the Nation. This is America in 2014....your Police-State, courtesy of vacuous Republican NeoCon fascism.
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    I want to ask you a serious question. What would you prefer? A fair trial for the policeman or to have him turned over to the mob?
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    @HoraceGreely - Trial = well... hopefully it's fair

    Most of the time though, there is no fairness at all. Only coverups.... People protect their own. It's human nature.
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    @HoraceGreely Of course. Duh!... That is the whole point of a trial, evidence, etc.

    But if he is found guilty of killing this person, what kind of punishment does he deserve?
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    It should be illegal, for those who hire cops, to hire unqualified garbage off the streets. Cops should be required to be trained and tested before they can be cops. That training and testing should include good behavior, such as not shooting random teenagers and dogs, and being able to handle the kinds of situations cops are hired for, without turning into panicky violent maniacs at the first sign of any confrontation.
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    Given the situation in Ferguson..... it's probably safer to do your jaywalking, protesting, or reporting in places like Kabul or Baghdad or Gaza City.
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    At the Bundy Ranch they showed one guy looking at open sites - no finger on his trigger and the Feds wanted to charge him and the Bundies. Notice how many agents in the photo's have their finger on the triggers - aimed - loaded and ready to shoot American Citizens. Anonymous just might be the way to go ! Stand up America !
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    Research should be done to see if most cops nowadays are military veterans. We already know they're getting surplus military weapons. But if this is the way our military treats foreigners overseas in their own countries, it might explain why they want our troops gone. But I hope I'm wrong.
  • #280
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    The pastors wound could be from a rock thrown by rioters. An officer received a broken ankle that way. No rioters have been injured.
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