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    the pepper spraying may have been an honest mistake...but...the cops(or was he a security guard?) should have listen to the many protesters trying to explain what had actually occurred...and they should have taken their testimonies....
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    There's a more complete story linked. It sounds like the mall security guard did listen to the witnesses. They let the guy get cleaned up and the guard apoligized to him and he was released. Since he was being detained by a mall cop it wasn't an actual arrest, so there will be nothing on his record.
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    @galt45 You know that you're making too much sense when you get two vote downs from the idiots on this Website.
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    @LEC
    The guard went immediately for the guy coming towards him with his fist balled and screaming. What would you have done?
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  • #94
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    When are black men going to learn, STOP BEING BLACK!! JUST STOP!!! DAMN!! How many clues do they need that choosing to be black is always going to get them beaten, shot to death or maced and arrested. We need public service announcements to help teach young men to not be black.
  • #185
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    Exactly. Why couldn't that black guy just keep walking and mind his own business. Why did he have to be black, turn, and raise his fists, before thinking better of it.
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    And I as well. It seems that only the "news" that is racially based is popular anymore. We have been a nation for almost 250 years. We overcame oppression, tyranny, slavery, bankruptcy, and a great depression...but we cannot overcome something so trivial as skin color? Pathetic!
  • #12
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    Probably because there is a little bit too much agreement going on about the "police state" so they have to get back to divisionary tactics.
  • #14
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    What "racial division". Politix simply reported on the cops racially dividing the protesters! Maybe you are uncomfortable with seeing the action of those who are upposed to be protecting and serving people regardless of ethnicity but actually selectively protecting and serving using race as a yaedstick.
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    Politix "frames" just every topic on here now to the point of becoming a laughingstock. Their writers could at least try to disguise their own biases but they choose not to. They just assume that they're dealing with a large group of blind sheep whose responses they can manipulate. This is why I always enjoy giving unconventional responses to certain topics.
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    The video started a little late for me to say, but it would seem more likely that the shirtless old guy was yelling at the protesters rather than the random black guy with headphones. But we don't know all the facts. The people around were yelling he was innocent, but without more video it's hard to know for sure.
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    "According to a police report, the guard said he used the spray because Wilford balled his fists and “took an aggressive step towards him.”"

    Wilford even admits taking the step towards the guard. Heck people should actually read the article because Wilford even admits to starting the confrontation with the man.

    "Wilford told The Seattle Times that as he passed by the man, he felt some spray from the man’s mouth. Wilford turned toward the man and cocked his fist. After he and the other man squared off, fists raised, a uniformed security guard appeared."
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    Considering we only have this "report" and a video of the arrest it is hard to determine if an injustice has happened. The actual event is not shown.

    What we can see is that an officer is arresting someone and 4 people are telling the officer he has arrested the wrong person.

    I don't know what the SOP is in Seattle, but usually once an officer has begun an arrest he must complete the action.

    If the wrong man is arrested, he will get his day in court. And if the witnesses that are concerned come forward and appear in court, the young man will more than likely receive a large settlement in civil court.
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    I agree, but the man was pepper sprayed. I know he wasn't shot, but that is not a good feeling. They could have and I am sure they did after they took him inside cleaned out his eyes.
    The witnesses were not helpful in the situation either, but if the officer could have just sat the man down and cleaned his eyes maybe the other people would have felt better at least. I don't know, just a thought, not right or wrong, just thinking.
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    It was a mall security guard, not a police officer.

    And no, an arrest does not have to be completed anywhere I have ever heard of.

    For a mall security guard to mace and handcuff and haul off an innocent person qualifies as assault and kidnapping to my understanding.
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    People really need to read the Seattle times full story and not the snip it from Politix.

    Here are the key parts I got out of it.

    "According to a police report, the guard said he used the spray because Wilford balled his fists and “took an aggressive step towards him.”"

    Wilford even admits taking the step towards the guard.

    "Wilford told The Seattle Times that as he passed by the man, he felt some spray from the man’s mouth. Wilford turned toward the man and cocked his fist. After he and the other man squared off, fists raised, a uniformed security guard appeared."

    So not only was Wilford not trying to defuse the situation, he really sounds like he was the person who started it.
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  • #114
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    So the pro-israel idiot starts it all and then walks away. I'm surprised he didn't start pelting the pro-Palestinian protestors with stale matzo balls. israelis and their supporters are prone to violence for disagreeing with them.
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    How did he start it? Because he was yelling at them and flipping them off? Did you read WIlford's statements that he felt some spray from the man yelling and Wilford was the one to first cock his fist before they squared off?
  • #252
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    I'm just saying I know how these pro-israelis are, they become outraged if you dare to defend the Palestinians. I've seen them throw rocks, begin spitting on people. They're intolerant of any other point of view other than pro-israel. I know there are always two sides to every story, Yank.
  • #210
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    Just a thought. If I'm the guy getting the short end of the stick I'd be tired of the black guy white guy stuff. An additional option to no longer highlighting the epidemic would be figuring out how to punish anyone if they act on race. It would kill two birds with one stone. You then could not report on the race because behind the scenes there would be a penalty so severe that everyone knows in the back of their minds it was dealt with properly.
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    Cops attacking innocent people and dogs is no longer even interesting. It's boring. It's a routine part of the everyday activity of cops in a fascist country. The only thing that would make it interesting would be if someone started thinking that maybe we don't want fascism after all.
  • #226
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    As a former security guard this should've been a level one confrontation where you tell both parties to just move on. The security guard instead took it immediately to a level four by spraying him with pepper spray when he didn't appear to be a threat to anyone. Luckily he wasn't armed cuz he seems to be the type you wouldn't want in uniform ... he should be fired!
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