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  • #13
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    Life in prison seems a little excessive for this crime, given he doesn't seem likely to re-offend. People get months in jail for killing someone while driving drunk; and this guy gets life?
  • #134
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    He broke the first and second rules of leniency.
    Rule 1. Be rich
    Rule 2. Don't be poor.
    If he was a 16 year old rich kid who killed 4 people while driving drunk, he could have gotten off. It is his own fault for being poor.
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    @wild_turkey6

    You forgot rule #3 be an illegal Mexican... being that here with a story like that gets you the medical you need.
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    Part of the war on drugs, which is lost as this evidences. They cannot make harsh enough punishments for people who on a level are attempting to alleviate physical or emotional pain. drug abusers are self medicating, sometimes without clear understanding of why. Without universal access to healthcare or money for exorbitant prescriptions, this market will never go away, and the black market thrives. The Us has 25% of the worlds prisoner population-taxpayer supported and oh so wasteful of our resources overall. I don't get why people are outraged over non-criminal welfare recipients and not at the ludicrous revenue glut from taxpayers.
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    THIS is a prime example of why our health care system needs reform. You can say he's a criminal and he deserves to be in jail, but he did what he had to for his son to live. Would you act any differently with that as your only option? Plus, is life in jail really a fair sentence to begin with? I don't see any violent crime or repeat offender.
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    I don't know the specifics of this, but how d you get hooked up in major drug trafficking like that unless you are already involved in it to a degree?
    I don't know anyone who moves that amount of drugs, nor do I know anyone who might know someone etc...
    Like I said I don't know this particular case but it smells of a guy who was already I involved in this pushing it to new heights
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    @sociald I can definitely respect your argument but let me ask you a question. Why would he turn himself in afterwards?
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    @NicoSuave Curious I read a story by a reported who interviewed him while in prison as well as receiving many letters from Jackson.
    The man wasn't just transporting meth. he was using it while being a truck driver before becoming a transporter of it and that's where he made his connection to transporting it.
    He also was previously convicted of possessing and giving meth to someone prior to his distribution. He was also arrested for marijuana previous to this. He was also in possession of an illegal firearm. And he turned himself in only after after his house was raided with this wife and children home but he was out of town.
    I am not saying the guy was all bad but it certainly paints a different picture doesn't it.

    http://www.guernicamag.com/features/the-life-...
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    @sociald You're right, it's one source from the media. About as credible as if I told you the story lol.
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    America--- no mercy for the vulnerable. No mercy for the poor. No mercy for the destitute. NO MERCY. What a country.
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    But we got billions for non citizens, billions for countries that hate the US and what we stand for, and life for a drug charge is crazy anyway.
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    Yea all the thumbers seem to have forgot that part of the bible. I was with a church group and felt like I was the sinner in the group all the bus ride to the game when we walked in two very sad looking pan handlers were setting outside the park didn't say a word as the whole church group walked pass. I was the only one to give them a dime. Needless to say I felt better on the trip back.
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    It wouldn't bother me if Obama pardoned him. He has served a lengthy sentence for his crimes. Ruined people's lives I am hearing? Nobody is forced to use drugs people make that decision on their own. I have no sympathy for people who abuse drugs and suffer the consequences of doing so. Yes I have had friends that have overdosed and died, and yes I said the same thing in their cases too. Personal responsibility.
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    Who doesn't feel compassion for the family and the child? But the ends do not justify the means. Who knows how many other deaths that Meth caused, in order to try and fund the child's treatment? What about the Shriner's Hospital? I would think this child would be a prime candidate.
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    Yes and not to mention drug dealers seeing this and thinking they can manufacture a situation like this as their get out of jail free card. I wouldn't put it past them to do something like this to a child.
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    @ Unfit2serve

    Would you have condemned him as much if he had come up with the extra money by getting a high-paying job with Big Tobacco?

    While tobacco may be legal in both cases the buyer chose. They were not forced to take the meth. They made a choice. It's their fault, not his.
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    Unfit2serve - You sure would think this child would be a candidate. It's obvious that the disease was curable.

    Another reason for additional changes in our healthcare system The ACA is a start, but as the richest nation on the planet (Are we still?), we can do better.
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    Oh yes... All those poor people who he "forced" the meth down their throats... He truly is a horrible monster.</sarcasm>
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    Yeah, this guy needs pardoned. If this isn't a poster child as to how the corporatization of things that should have never been market driven in the first place is wrong, I don't know what is.
    Some things should be market driven. Life & death due to ill health, and imprisonment aren't among them.
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    I had a similar situation when I was a defense atty at the Courts Martial of a guy who went AWOL to make enough money in the oil patch to pay for his wife's brain surgery because the Army wouldn't pay for it. He turned himself in after he had the money to pay for the surgery. It was the only case I ever won as a defense atty. When I was a trial atty I didn't loose any cases. Most CM's are cut and dried. I felt really good about wining that one.
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    He should be pardoned and released from Jail. All drugs should be legal and we should put all non-violent criminals( with the exception of rich people that steal things like pension plans) on home incarceration with those leg bands. Violent criminals should be put in a pit withe the scum from Wall Street and Bankers that steal from the American people, throw in one knife per week and the one's left over once the pit population drops to under 100 get to eat. Once per year we flood the pit and let the victims and family of victims take baseball bats to the criminals.
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    @PNWest well this is where I differ with Liberals. There are certain people that aren't worthy of life. They prove it by their actions and if they want to act like wild animals then I want them to be treated like Michael Vick's worst pit bulls.
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    DrFunkenstein - I'd just add one thing. Make it a pay-per-view show, with all proceeds going to the national debt, a kids hospital fund, or any host of charities.

    On the leg band thing, I'd say change them from tracking devices to ones that shock. And not just a little shock. One you'd never want to experience twice.

    Personally, I'd be all for strapping suicide bomb vests on most Wall Street bankers, and bombing ISIL with them. Yeah. I know, that's a little harsh.
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    Life in prison for this seems extreme. He's been in there 20 plus years, now.
    Pardon him please, Mr. President.
    He's poster-boy of excessive drug offense sentencing guidelines.
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    This was his third drug related offense and his state likely has a three strike law. The article I read did not state he turned himself in either, it says he sold to an undercover officer and was arrested: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25256... .

    However, I get the problem with the healthcare. We have a special needs kiddo and we cannot get any assistance for her care. We were told we needed to divorce and waste the precious little savings we have in order to get any aid to help. We opted to just keep plugging our way as best as we can without Gov help if that was our only option. Their way, we "might" get short term help, but lose the little savings we had for an emergency. When an emergency did happen, we would lose even the roof over our child's head. Help at that high a cost (divorce and homelessness) was not worth it to us.
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    Really__ I have a Sister-in-law in the same situation. Not sure what state you're in, but my wife is a provider for special needs kids, and a former coworker also has a child who needs assistance.

    My wife was able to help a couple of other people get assistance they needed. And true to human nature, one has asked for only what they need, and the other (who is pretty well off financially, and could probably pay a lot of the costs on their own) has completely abused the system.
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    This is a case that deserves Obama's attention. With no prior criminal history that father's sentence should have been shorter. I hope he is free with a big movie deal.
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    catiz - He supposedly had priors. But still. What would you do if it was your kid?

    freelancehobo has it right in post #2. Boombatic got it right too. All of you 'rightie prepper' types wouldn't think twice about killing someone to save yourself, a member of your family.
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    Excellent point. This man participated in the destruction of multiple human lives in order to save one of his own. Hardly commendable by any means.
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    I disagree. Like I've said many times before, when it all comes down, people will not just roll over and die, they will do whatever it takes to survive, even if that means killing everyone else.

    Think of it this way. If it was a war, how many would you be willing to kill to save your sons life? Innocent or otherwise.
  • #35
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    The U.S. federal government spent over $15 billion dollars in 2010 on the War on Drugs, at a rate of about $500 per second. State and local governments spent at least another 25 billion dollars.

    Treatment would cost $250,000,

    250,000 is 0% of 15,000,000,000.

    It costs an average of $50 per day per inmate, which is 1,500 per month per inmate, which is $18,000 per year per inmate in Texas.

    21 x 18,000 = 378,000

    Financially, it would have been cheaper to help his son than it has been to put the father in prison SO FAR, and he has years to go. The treatment costs less than 1% of our yearly budget to combat drugs.

    He pulled out all stops first, before resorting to crime to help his child, when all we had to do was help. WE were going to let a life die, SIMPLY because WE didn't want to help.

    US average for food stamps is $133.42 (hawaii has highest at 213.65)
    133 x 12 = 1,596 (213 x 12 = 2,556)

    It would have been cheaper for him to be fed by foodstamps, even if he recieved 1,000 per month than it is to house him in prison.

    All we had to do was help.

    Financially, it was wrong to put this man in prison, when he could have had a far lesser sentence than LIFE, and would have continued to be a productive, contributing member of our country, who would have paid into all of these nonsense programs. Now, he's locked up, not contributing but taking from us, all for loving his son. This is only from a financial standpoint.

    After saving his son's life, HE TURNED HIMSELF IN, and threw himself at the mercy of the court, with proof that he had tried EVERYTHING legally available to him BEFORE he committed the crime, and he was given LIFE.

    Banks, for YEARS, laundered HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS for mexican cartels, MORE than our yearly budget to combat drugs, AND NOBODY WAS JAILED, THE BANKS WERE FINED!!!!

    This man is in jail for LIFE, costing us more money to keep him there than it would for him to serve a lesser sentence,(when he was caused LESS harm than the BIG BANKS) ONLY BECAUSE HE WAS NOT RICH.

    This is our society.
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    Why is he responsible for the overdoses that people who chose to take Meth suffered? What he did was highly distasteful, however he did what needed to be done in order to save an innocent. If that was the only way to save my sons life, I too would have done it.
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    He's WHITE. Why would Obama care about a white man? He didn't stop golfing for a white Major General killed in a combat zone, but is sending 3 senior officials to the funeral of a strong arm robbery perpetrator who's BLACK.
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    Since he was not proven, or even identified at all in the video, your accusation is unsupported.

    Under Bush some 8,000 Americans were killed in incidents that involved him, from war to Katrina. How many of his 1000 days of vacation did he interrupt for them?
  • #163
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    @BobFromDist9 His family lawyer identified him as the person involved in the robbery. Isn't that good enough for you?
  • #29
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    Let him go with the stipulation there won't be a next time. He saved his son's life but the question in my.mind is how many lives lost because of what he delivered.
    Sure, someone was going to be the mule, I get that and that's why I say let him go. If caught again, it's life without pardon or parole.
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  • #73
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    @MelissaA You brought it up, not me. Looks like it's not just your "ilk", but also very much you. Race baiting has gotten very old, think about a new hobby.
  • #79
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    @Now_What My first comment was fact. Henry Louis Gates, Trayvon the thug, Ferguson, Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi. Just to name a few. So please, keep screaming racism about every little disagreement. The only people believing it anymore are the sycophants and lackeys in your liberal echo chambers.
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