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  • #7
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    Why is it we loose our minds when this happens but when it's reversed we look the other way? The knockout game was black on white violence. Hardly a peep was made & Sharpton was nowhere to be found. Brown was caught on taped bullying & robbing someone, but when the obvious was said (no angel) people are appaulled. If we all face facts & face the truth, maybe we'll have less racism.
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    Here is the thing, and the BIG difference, and it's sad that I have to explain this to you.

    When it's black on white violence, there is no if's, and's, or but's about it, the black person gets prosecuted. There is no question of whether or not they are guilty, or whether they were just doing their job, or even if they were just defending themselves, they are prosecuted and put behind bars. Prison is full of black people. By tradition, they don't get slaps on the wrists, or get out of jail cards, they get Do not pass Go, do not collect $200, go directly to jail.

    When it's reversed however, there is always this big question of whether or not the black person deserved what happened to them, of whether or not the white person truly is guilty, and if they should be held accountable for their actions at all.
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    I think you miss the point....the point is the implied connection between the "no angel" and being shot dead.
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    Call it like it is. A thug is a thug. If a thug is running the streets, robbing places etc, you and your family better be prepared that you are going to die the thugs life! This kid definitely wasn't set out to do good. He wasn't helping an old lady cross the street when he got shot.
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    Call it like it is. A thug is a thug. If a thug is patrolling the streets, shooting people etc, you and your family better be prepared that you are going to either die like a thug or be put in prison. This cop definitely wasn't set out to do good. He wasn't helping an old lady, or those 2 black kids, cross the street when he shot one of them down.
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    @boombatic He also didn't rob stores and probably doesn't have a rap sheet. Nobody in my family robs stores or commits crime, that is apparently the norm in all inner-cities for "good" youth.
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    Every bit of this is the medias fault. He should have never been made out to be a'gentile giant'. At the same time the fact that he was a rapper or any other personal information about him should not have come in to play. None of it is relevant to what happened. Only facts about the incident should be brought to the table. This has turned into a circus sideshow rather than an attempt to find justice for Brown or Officer Wilson, and the media is behind every bit of it.
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    I am ashamed to say I was a journalist for more than fifty years. The reporters today do not have the right to call themselves journalist. They are not even good hacks. If we had had news reports as we do today, we would have lost WWII. I am so disappointed in CNN. Their coverage in Furgerson was appalling. I do believe there is a cover-up of some kind, but I am not sure on which side.
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    @dearcat Well said. It is so bad now that even local news is bias. There really isn't anyone to trust. Hell they actually aired Michael Brown's funeral service in the St Louis area. What kind of message does this send? People in Ferguson that believe Officer Wilson did no wrong are scared to death that he will not be charged with something and rioting will be worse than it was before. The media is helping to put these people's lives in danger. I do not watch any news source or even have any on my Facebook. If I hear about something of interest I do what research I can on my own so I can come to my own conclusion. There was a time in this country when there was honesty and dignity in journalism. That time has passed and I have absolutely no respect for the field any longer. Say what you will about police, lawyers, etc... Journalists are the bottom of the barrel.
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    Just as it was the media's fault in the Trayvon Martin case. There is no such thing as "media" anymore. They are nothing but race baiting liars, bent on telling any lie that can get people stirred up and get them more attention.
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    I don't think he was an angel. That in itself doesn't mean he should have been killed. What we don't know is if the cop acted in self defense when killing Brown. That is really the only thing that matters, which we do not know yet (and may never).
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    It's still a nasty thing to say about a dead person on the day of their funeral. I wonder if they also ran a Robin WIlliams was no angel, he was a druggy, column on the day of his funeral?

    You know, just to keep up their good taste.
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    Exactly, from all reports the cop knew nothing about what Brown had been doing at the convenience store before he killed him. Petty theft is certainly never reason enough to gun a human being down.
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    I'm waiting for the hospital report on Officer Wilson's injuries. Then we will know if Brown is dead because Wilson has a right to self-defense.
    That's the real issue, not race, not whether or not Brown was 'no angel'. If in fact Brown had marijuana laced with pcp in his blood stream, that drug cocktail combined with his size and weight would have made his body a dangerous weapon, a weapon the officer had the right to defend himself against. So I'm waiting.
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    Earth to Realthinker. Get real. This isn't the 1980's- there is no "PCP-fueled behemoths" on the streets. If Brown had ganga in his system he would be no different than 85% of 18-year-olds in your town, the White "thugs", and Brown would be just as demotivated, nonviolent, and slow as those kids are. Pot does not make people aggressive-the reverse is true. Nice fantasy.
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    @Unfit2serve "laced with pcp"......I tried PCP many years ago. They still use it today (from what I've heard). PCP is the meth of olden days.
    But, you're right about pot.......
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    PCP? Did you make that one up on the spot, Realthinker? Because there's never been even a SUGGESTION of that anywhere.

    Or did you actually think that THC is the same thing as PCP?
  • #15
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    I don't want to see anybody young or old, white or black shot but it's my opinion that Mr. Brown got shot because of his own actions and I honestly don't see how any other opinion is reasonable. It seems like racism is an opportunity for head in the sand politics.
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    @NolanVoyd He was no angel and reporting that seems to get you into trouble, why? Because it's more about narrative than facts. If you want to argue that the police can get out of control I might agree but Brown is not the poster child for that issue.
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    @oltimer But you said it was your opinion that he got shot because of his own actions....I am asking you what the evidence is for that opinion....do you honestly think that the fact that he was "no angel" and maybe even a thief and a thug is justification for shooting him?

    Don't you think the only actions of Brown's that could justify the shooting, THE ONLY ONES, are whether or not he was attacking the officer at the time and thereby putting his life in immediate danger?

    What does his stealing or any of that have to do with that?

    What evidence do you have that leads you to the opinion that the officer's life was in eminent danger at the moment he shot Brown?
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    I was no angel when I was younger either...I drank, dabbled in some drug use, was in a fraternity that was just about like animal house even...the big differences were we didn't go steal shit, we didn't act violently towards people, we didn't act like bad ass thugs running the streets, didn't rob folks, and we still knew to respect authority even if we didn't like it...there was still a respectful attitude towards it.
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    exactly-respect for authority-not taught to the angel. Had he respected the law-don't steal and respected authority-he would be alive. The stupid ass wrote his own ticket and his parents punched it.
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    Did you get pulled over or hassled endlessly for simply driving in the wrong neighborhood, "looking suspicious", or "we have a report of a black person committing a robbery" excuse for stopping you and questioning you? Where you profiled?

    Some of us White folks who had long hair and didn't "conform" got similar treatment from the cops, back in the late 1960's through the 1970's. Of course, other White folks weren't terrified just at the mere sight of us young rambunctious and loud males, even if we were big and muscular....Cops were a hell of a lot more humane back then...closer-knit to the community.
    I mean, you know how we Whites all look alike.........
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    In their rush to judgment, Michael Brown has already been inducted into sainthood, and Officer Wilson has been determined to be evil incarnate, by the racist, divisive, self-loathing, modern left. There can be no variance from their predetermined narrative, regardless of the truth resulting from an objective, professional investigation. Their minds are made up. As it is with every issue, anyone who dares question the leftist view will be viciously attacked.
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    I haven't seen this much hatred for a police officer since Mark Fuhrman during the OJ mess. I can only pray that Officer Wilson will someday be able to rise above the media's character assassination and be as successful as Mark Fuhrman. That is one way to shut the @ssholes up.
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  • #126
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    With video footage of him assaulting a store clerk...he was no angel nor was he a victim. He's looking more like a bully. Chances are he continued down this path by assaulting officer Wilson and attempting to disarm him. Maybe the parents should try blaming someone else...like themselves.
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    Wow...i'm schocked I tell you...shocked! The NYT actually published a balanced news story. Is this a case of a blind chicken finding a kernel of corn or is the new editorial leadership sick of the propaganda too.
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    Your kids and white girls and whatever are not as much a threat to police as someone male and over 6' and over 200 lbs. Duh, grow a brain and move from fantasyland to reality.
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    @twodogscat56 - 6'4" 300lbs. The cop must have been a real 'pussy'. I'm 6' and about 200lbs, and I could still give Brown a problem if I had to. And, correct me if I'm wrong. Every cop I know has had some sort of self defense training. Wonder what would have happened if he'd simply stepped on the gas, when Brown was allegedly hanging on the side of the car? How about hittong the button to raise the window? Naw. just shoot. And keep shooting.
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  • #91
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    That couldn't have been said about the officer if he been killed. Police kill about 17 black men each year. Black men kill 6,000 black men a year. Who attends their funerals? But I wish Michael Brown was still alive with a chance to fill the promise.
  • #66
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    If the young man had a history of less than perfect behaviour then he was no angel. Very few people would be considered so. What got him killed was a confrontation with a cop.. Angel or not, rightly or wrongly, whatever he did when confronted by the police is what contributed to his being killed. Maybe if after robbing a store and being confronted by police a person just might act rashly out of fear of apprehension?
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    "Maybe if after robbing a store and being confronted by police a person just might act rashly out of fear of apprehension?"

    Is the possibility that Brown may have been acting irrationally and in a threatening manner the cop's problem? Heck no! Even if Brown was reacting out of fear of apprehension (because he had just done something he had NO business doing in the first place) when confronted by a cop simply doing his job, that's no excuse to hassle and intimidate the cop like he did the store owner/clerk. That video proves that Brown was in a MOOD shortly before the confrontation with the cop. By the way, very few people rob convenience stores and physically assault the owner in their youth. What kind of crowd did you hang with?
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    @Shayla9266 I think we have a miscommunication here. I agree with you. You are agreeing with my point I believe. From what I have heard the cop was not aware of the previous robbery when confronting the young men. The state of mind of the deceased may have played a role in what happened is all I am saying.

    My "crowd" were good kids if not always angels. We kept our distance from the 'thugs' which reside in most communities. We played athletic sports, not with guns, and we certainly did not rob any stores or go running around as bad asses.
  • #79
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    I'm sure we'll get 1000 stories on gays after Politix has moved off of this subject. I can see the articles piling up on some hard drive just waiting to explode.
  • #151
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    Sure, going around talking about someone being gunned down in the street isn't much worth wasting all that time over. Nothing to see here. Move on to the next atrocity.
  • #157
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    @KramdenRF oh I missed that part, guneed down, just walking by, minfin' hiss own beewax. Good kid, student, non-thief. BAM BAM you're dead. See me blowing the smoke from my barrel.
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    @KramdenRF - Cut Danni-Smith a break. A lil 'ol cop in his cruiser asks a big black dude to get out of the street. Brown probably scared the shit out of Wilson. Wilson - OH Shit! That's one big black dude. Where's my gun? And I'm so skeered, I'm just goin' ta keep shootin' til my finger's tired.
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    "But white girls aren't likely to be shot by cops the way black men are."

    You mean like this white girl?

    http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/20...

    http://www.fox19.com/story/25350687/samantha-...

    But of course, no national news coverage, riots or protests. Kinda funny how nasty liberal commentators always like to bash Kentuckians as "backwards", "rednecks", "white trash" etc, yet there was no riots or looting. Know why? Oh that's right, we a rational civilized human beings.
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  • #110
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    @Father-of-LIES Ridiculous statement?

    Do you think white girls ARE as likely to be shot by police as black men are?

    I hope your answer is no, if so, why is it a ridiculous statement.
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  • #216
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    The thing is that even if Brown were a horrible person the police officer does not have the right to act as judge, jury and executioner.

    There are times when the police need to use force to contain a subject who is harming others or property and is resisting arrest. There is no doubt about that, is there?

    Force is sometimes needed but I think that the cops need to use the least amount of force necessary to control the situation. And no more. That could range from giving a stern talking to, to wrestling the subject physically control him, to non-lethal weapons (stun gun, mace) or trying to shoot the kid in some non-lethal area (something that happens more on TV than in real life). Shooting to kill should be the absolute last resort, used only when necessary to protect the officer's own life or that of another person.
  • #419
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    There is no such thing as "shoot to NOT kill". People describe Michael Brown as an "unarmed teen" because it creates the mental image of Willis from Different Strokes. But along with being an unarmed teen, Michael Brown was also a 6'5, 300 lb. man who assaulted a police officer inside his vehicle, attempted to wrest control of a weapon away from a police officer, and a few moments later apparently decided to charge that same police officer while a weapon was being pointed at him.

    Those don't ask for a stern talking to, or a wrestling match (to what end?!) in my opinion. They also don't describe elements of bad police judgement to me.
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    @sionathan
    No, he did NOT assault a police officer or attempt to take his weapon. Nor did he charge the police officer.
  • #153
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    BOTTOMLINE a UN-ARMED TEEN was killed!!! Saying his no angel has nothing to do w/getting shot 6 times & left on the pavement for hrs.
  • #192
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    You realize he was "left on the pavement for hrs" because people kept getting between him and the cops and wouldn't let them move him?
  • #239
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    @Yank
    Absurd. Brown was executed at 12:07pm. The CSI folks didn't bother to show until 90 minutes later at 1:40pm; the coroner couldn't be coaxed out of the donut shop to come check the corpse for a pulse until after 2:30pm. After scratching their asses, calling in the St. Louis County cops to help them begin the coverup whitewash story, Brown's body was finally loaded into the morgue van by the Ferguson Keystone Cops at 4:30pm. No citizen impeded the investigation or "held up" anything.

    It is amazing the fantastical bullshit some folks concoct to try and support their failed narrative.
  • #257
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    @Yank Pretty sure u seen the vid of the guy getting shot w/the knife. Full vid showed him from time he stole the sodas to the time police killed him. Chief came out w/n 60mins after gave statement done by the book. NOW...LOOK AT BROWN SHOOTING VID & ALL THE FACTS!!! Clearly the cop that shot Brown & the reaction of the department KNEW THEY F*** up!!
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