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    I believe in free speech, so let the anti-Semites embarrass themselves. I would note however, that if we were talking about anti-gay protests, the University would have banned them so fast it would make your head spin.
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    The target here was clearly anti-Israeli protests, not anti-semitic ones. I'm prepared to be proven wrong, but can you give an example of an anti-semitic protest having taken place on a University (of California) campus in recent years?
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    @ded I'm not sure that I agree with you distinction here given Israel's unique cultural place in the Middle East.
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    @ir0nw0lfe You're saying that I cannot express a view against Israel's policies without that view being anti-semitic?
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    @ded I'm saying that protesting Israel's treatment of Palestinians is a very fine line considering anti-semitism is the heart of the conflict. No other country has been demanded to return lands won in war. The Palestinians didn't have a country of their own before Israel came along. Most Palestinians get along fine with Jews but the groups like hezbollah and hamas backed by anti-semitic regimes in neighboring countries stir the conflict. On the other hand, proteators rarely understand what they are actually protesting.

    I agree you can be critical of a country.not their populace bit to.most observers the appearance is the same.
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    Why is disapproving Israel's treatment of Arabs considered Anti-Semitic? Perhaps itis becasue the State of Israel is above the same criticism that is freely expressed against any other country around the World?
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    Oh get off your high horse already. The "conservative" 'church' known as Westboro Baptist has found a way to justify their bigotry, antisemitism, homophobia and general other hatred, specifically towards heroic veterans of the US military.

    Seriously. This isn't a issue of 'progressive' or 'regressive' mentalities, but rather a just decision on the merits of civil rights. EVERYONE is entitled to the freedoms of speech, expression, assembly, etc. This is the reason that those (IMO) freaks of nature over in Westboro haven't yet been arrested, along with certain 'well known' Blank Panthers and biker gangs.

    "Beware of attempting to remove the speck in your brother's eye, when you have a log in your own."
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    @CanadianIndy. Sorry my horse is so high.

    Agree with you on the WBC. Horrible black eye for Kansas and people here hav to deal with them daily.

    As for the rest - racism is racism.

    Anti-semitism is racism, no matter how you try to paint it.
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    They’re not justifying anti-Semitism. They’re defending First Amendment rights. Free speech just isn’t for those we agree with, it’s for everyone.

    I would spend a lifetime debating why the protesters are wrong in their views. However, I must support their right to free speech.
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    @cynic -

    Definition of "ANTI-SEMITISM"

    : hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group

    Seems to me that progressives are conveniently playing the race card here, under the guise of free speech.

    Just as the WBC attacks gays.

    Free speech or not, I do not approve.
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    @MellowGuy It has NEVER been god that we needed to worry about. It is those who deny him that cause all the need for concern.
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    What a terrible thing to do. I wonder what they would do if there was an anti-Muslim demonstration? Yeah, that's right...they wouldn't allow it.
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    It's OK, calm down! California isn't that unpleasant a place! There aren't any anti-Jewish protests, what do you think the students are like? They're protesting about Israel.
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    sure they would allow it...http://www.westernjournal ism.com/shocking-dnc-schedules -muslim-prayers-ahead-of-conve ntionmuslim-bhood-connections/
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    Gentlemen...the liberal progressive "universityland" in California is known and identified with "diversity." And anything that can be called "minority" is sacred to them.
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    Let's go burn some Qurans on campus and see how long that freedom of speech is upheld by the college. Just saying what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
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    The world would be a better place if Palastine was made into a waste land....and they take Iran, Iraq, Syria, and ect with them.
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    No. Freedom of speech.
    Besides it would be overapplied. Some people automatically equate "anti-Israel" with "anti-semitic". That's just as illogical as saying if you disagree with China's Tibet policy that you must be sinophobic.
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    Demonstrations against Israel are probably not anti-semitic, but are against Israel's policies. One needs to distinguish between a country, a religion, and an ethnic group.
    Mark Yudof is Jewish and I would trust his take on the demonstrations.
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    @MellowGuy I would infer most but not "all Muslims hate Jews." Prime source documentation of muslims denigrating the jews can tell us that at least some muslims hate jews. As for the USS Liberty incident, the motivations of the Israelis during their engagement with Egypt would be considerably illogical if they intended to draw the US super power against them. Nor can I think of another reason for their attack other than fog of war. Very similar to the US bombing Canadian troops in Afghanistan. A terrible accident. Thank you for the link.
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    Agreed. The whole hate speech thing needs to go away. Can't have freedom and censorship only when it suits you. Want to protest gays, blacks, hispanics, feminists, tree huggers, all should be allowed. Whether or not we like those points of view they are allowed, even idiots have the right to speak. We also have the right to disagree. I love the hypocrisy of freedom of speech is great until someone says something they don't agree with and then it's hate speech and should be censored. BTW, I'm all for an anti- Islamic extremists protest on that same campus.
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    Well.
    Free speech is free speech. If they want to talk than no government can restrict it.
    Saying that.. In the former USSR since late 1940's communists used a term "Anti-Zionist" and not "Anti-Jewish" to cover their own anti-semitic actions.
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    You are all flying every which way, but to the point. I was refering to Isreals military air bases. And yes they are the only friend we have in the freaking middle east.
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    If they are racist in nature, absolutely. Let us remember what started this mess--it was not Israel.
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    Take away more freedoms? No thanks.

    Don't think of Israel as America's friend. Think of them as a client. Our best friends in the region is Saudi Arabia. Anyone that has been paying attention knows this.
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    And protesting against a country's policies is hardly anti-Semitic. Just because Israeli people happen to be mostly Jewish has nothing to do with it. Israel has a long list of invading neighboring countries.(Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, etc.). I mean what if America invaded so many countries, what would those invaded countries think of us...?
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    Our best friends in the region is Saudi Arabia?
    Our best Oil Suppler in the region is Saudi Arabia.
    They are no more our friend that the grocery store is my friend.
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    @Wilberhum I see your point. American foreign policy would have most people believe that we are fighting a war with Muslim extremists. But if we look at who we do business with in the Middle East I'm pretty sure Saudi Arabia is our largest trading partners in the area since the 30's. Not only with natural resources but with arms sales, student exchange programs, "goods" and construction work to. Saudi Arabia has a huge amount of students in America at any given time. US arms sales to Saudi Arabia alone totaled $33.4 billion last year. That amount surpassed the entire total of U.S. arms sales to all countries in the world in 2009,$31 billion. Starting in the 70's Saudi Arabia was having a huge influx of money, and they had mass infrastructure improvements that were mostly provided by American businesses. American businesses brought Saudi Arabian infrastructure into the modern world. Also the dictators of Saudi Arabia have a long history of friendship with business and political leaders in America including the Bush family. And let us not forget that Al-Quada, The Taliban and other Muslim terror groups hate the dictators of Saudi Arabia because of their close ties to America, so we are partners with the Saudi Arabian dictators in the "War on Terror". Even though the citizens of of Saudi Arabia are some of the most fundamentalist Muslims on the planet.

    So, the dictators of Saudi Arabia are our best friends, but the people of Saudi Arabia, maybe not so much.
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    Good Lard ir0nw0lfe, I thought you were too smart to buy into Conspiracy Theories. Obama is a Muslim? Do you suffer from Obamaphobia? By the way the DNC didn't join hands with BIMA.
    The BIMA is riding on the shirttails of the DMC.
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    @Wilberhum I never said Obama was Muslim. I am bothered that the DNC feels it is appropriate to have to Islamic clerics who advocate replacing the Constitution with Sharia law as the openers. How that even make sense for the DNC? One of these guys was implicated in the 9/11 attack!
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    @ir0nw0lfe You use a link that promotes Obama as a Muslim to support your stance. If you think calling Obama a Muslim is a lie, why would you use a source that lies to support your point of view?
    PS: As for being anti-Islam, I'm in the top 10%.
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    @Wilberhum I don't care if he is w,Muslim. Wouldn't thrill me but I chose the link because it qouted some the prayer verses which ate clearly anti-semitic. Islamic clerics qoute the Koran and dispatage Jews. Who would have guessed? My point is that the DNC is opening with 2 hrs of Islamic prayers by 2 clerics who advocate overthrowing our basis for govt and replacing it with Sharia law. You don't think this sends a message? You don't see this as a problem? It's insane. Where ate all the separation of church and state people on this? Ehyvis MSM ignoring it? Don't like the link Google DNC opened by Muslims and pick one. Even the most left don't dispute that it is happening. One of the imams was implicated in the 9/11 attacks. This is beyond ridiculous.
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    @Wilberhum I don't care if he is w,Muslim. Wouldn't thrill me but I chose the link because it qouted some the prayer verses which ate clearly anti-semitic. Islamic clerics qoute the Koran and dispatage Jews. Who would have guessed? My point is that the DNC is opening with 2 hrs of Islamic prayers by 2 clerics who advocate overthrowing our basis for govt and replacing it with Sharia law. You don't think this sends a message? You don't see this as a problem? It's insane. Where ate all the separation of church and state people on this? Why is MSM ignoring it? Don't like the link Google DNC opened by Muslims and pick one. Even the most left don't dispute that it is happening. One of the imams was implicated in the 9/11 attacks. This is beyond ridiculous.
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    If students want to protest about Israel's policies, then of course they have that right. It's usually conservatives who complain about "playing the race card". I hope those same conservatives can see that describing anti-Israel protests as anti-Semitic is a perfect example of "playing the race card".
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