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    Ha! Damage control for Barry! NYT stinks! If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. Romney 2012.
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    EXACTLY!! Now they are trying every excuse in the book to cover for Obama even tithe extent of personal problems.
    Yeah. I agree. He's got problems alright. He's going to loose his high paying job,(which he will forever be wealthy), and his dictatorship over America. That IS a problem for him.
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    @Just_Lisa And michele won't be taking any more taxpayer funded shopping trips overseas.
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    Well Duh....it's the New York Times. What the hell do you expect from them? They are ultra liberal and absolutely pro-Barack Husssein Obama.
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    Unlike Romney, Obama and his gaggle have been proven to lie and or distort the truth repeatedly but the N Y T has no interest in reporting a substantiated truth.
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    @real_voter Mad? Hell no, I just enjoy calling them what they are. The New York Times is the biggest liberal rag in the country. They are completely biased against anyone opposing the re-election of Barack Husssein Obama. If you deny that, you are lying...period.
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    Oh, by all means, do as GOPers usually do -- if you don't agree with the person or medium on what's being said personally attack them. That's a highly intelligent argument.
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    The only thing Nobama has to stand on is the backs of his Jim Jones like followers....drink his kool aid
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    Does anyone else feel that this discussion would be more interesting if we skipped the political rhetoric? Be it Nobama, Mutt, libtard, conservadumb, or kool-aid, these terms don't add much to the discussion and usually put others on the defense.

    - FenceSitter
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    Oops...should be:
    http://m.facebook.com/JesseVenturaPresident20...

    Wishful thinking on my part. 2012 is a done deal. As you've pointed out, Sitter, the campaigns and the media have done a PHENOMENAL job at dividing our nation along every line imaginable. They'll see-saw in the polls throughout October, and it will be "so close" on the sixth that whoever's family is running Florida will "win". Deja Vu?
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    Apparently, the NYT e-board hasn't been reading their own news articles, or they'd know that the pending expiration of the Bush tax cuts - "Taxmageddon" - will have a huge impact on our economy and everyone in it, not just the wealthy.

    As for the NYT accusing other people of getting their facts wrong, that's like a heroin junkie calling someone a drug addict.
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    you are not really addressing the issue and arguing a slightly odd point; the source itself, was not in fact the question of debate. That a news source in this day and age where expediency and speed of reporting has become so important that getting the story out before the other guy sometimes means that you don't get the facts totally straight is surely to be expected? What about all the other newspapers/tv/internet who are constantly getting facts wrong, to portray it like the NYT is the only offender? Please! Fox "News" the Tribune, Post, everyone gets things wrong from time to time, and anyway they were right, he was lying through his teeth to score points, which are apparantly more important htan facts nowadays. And "taxmageddon"? Come on guy.
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    @ConcernedParty - I didn't invent that term, it's being used all over the political media. My point isn't that Romney told the absolute truth, it's that the NYT is only interested in exposing Romney's lies and not Obama's.
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    @Stratton I wasn't implying you invented it, I was questioning the legitimacy of the concept. its hype. remember y2k? its bs of asimilar kind if not magnitude. And one lie/fudged truth does not a liar make. for that you have to look at the man who spent the whole evening backtracking contradicting himself and out and out fabrication in order to comeacross better. he is the product of arketing and any substance he has is hidden by all the gladhanding, smiling and forcing himself to seem like a reasonable human being.
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    As I understand it Romneys defict would be 5 trillion over ten years. If you give him his assumption for an extra 3% growth it works out. He did not lie. Reducing taxes on the rich and corperation is not a tax giveaway it is incentive to make money in the U.S. witch creates jobs witch grows the tax base. No matter who wins we are in trouble and I prefer a guy who is going to try and fix this mess without enslaving us over one who is trying to mannage the decline of America. While Romney may not be as conservative as many would prefer it is not hard to tell witch candidate more understands the intended role of gov.
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    Romney completely lied. How do his supporters not see that. I can support Obama and be truthful and say that Romney won the debate, but he did win through lying. For example: Romney claimed he has a plan so insuramce companies cannot drop people with pre-existing conditions. He then turned and said he will let states decide what is the best system of health care for them. Therefore if the state decided they do not want to protect people with pre-existing conditions it will be up to them. Do people not see the contradiction here. Smh This is just one example.
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    In 2008, President Obama kept talking about "Change" and from that day to this very moment, there has not been any changes. Matter of fact, American is in a Crisis Mode and 4 more years of Obama will be the end of America.
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    NY Times has been backing the president's lies from day 1. So when Romney challenges the ONE, now Romney's a liar? Pffff....
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    "Mr. Romney claimed, against considerable evidence, that he had no intention of cutting taxes on the rich or enacting a tax cut that
    would increase the deficit. That simply isn't true. Mr. Romney wants to restore the Bush-era tax cut that expires at the end of this year and largely benefits the wealthy. He wants to end the estate tax and the gift tax, providing a huge benefit only to those with multimillion-dollar estates, at a cost of more than $1 trillion over a decade to the deficit. "

    This is simply not true. And, I would like the NYT to present this "considerable evidence". The Bush tax cuts, now known as the Obama tax cuts, will not be "restored" they will simply remain in place. And, FYI, they are but a pittance of the whole "cost" of those cuts. The vast majority of the cuts are to the rest of the workers. Obama could take 100% of the money from the "Wealthy" and it would pay for about a week of his spending. Anyone who can read a table will be able to see that the Bush tax cuts gave a much greater percentage tax cut to the middle class (just go to the official Labor Statistics site), why do you think so many no longer pay federal tax? Bush tax cuts. The "Super wealthy" got the smallest percentage of a tax cut, the smallest. And, America has the most PROGRESSIVE tax rates of all the countries. The Estate Tax harms family businesses and taxes once again money that's already been taxed . Does he want to end Estate tax or lower it? Gift tax is just second cousin to the Estate tax. If you give your children the down payment for a home, they must declare it as a gift, and pay a tax on it. Obama's class warfare is unhealthy. First off, I dare anyone to tell me that a family of 4 making a combined salary of $250,000 and living in any big city is SUPER WEALTHY! Donald Trump is super wealthy, most Hollywood actors are super wealthy, most famous sports stars are super wealthy, a family of 4, living in NYC, earning a combined income of $250,000 are simply comfortable.
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    Funny that most of the Obama supporters were pretty much dead silent until this story came out...now your all jumping in to say, "yeah, he lied" yet cannot provide a definitive explanation on what he lied about. He flip-flopped you say, gee, that must be the first time in history a politician has ever done that huh? Kind of like how Obama flip-flopped on closing Guantanamo Bay, and how he said he would leave it up to the states on the medicinal marijuana issue, yet stormed California dispenceries anyways? You accuse Romney of these things like Obama is this perfect person who has never done any of these things. And again, did Romney lie about food and gas prices being through the roof, did he lie about our education system being far from adequate, did he lie about the continued unemployment problem, did he lie about what has happened to the national debt? These were all true, and all extremely important issues to Americans right now.

    They are both politicians and therefore are both liars in one capacity or another. However, Romney clearly had more stinging points last night, and looked hungry, passionate, and willing to jump in that president's chair, while Obama looked out of place and out of touch.

    And also again, this was from someone who thought Romney didn't have a chance against Obama last night, boy was I wrong.
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    Oh sure! We'll trust one of the most Liberal Newspapers in the Country...
    Pulease.
    They are almost as bad as the HuffPUFFngton Post!
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    What a joke. I find it laughable that a politician can state their plan, and then an ignorant, bitter reporter who refuses to conceed that his favored canidate did not do so well last night, can step in and say well that's really not what they stand for. Is this reporter inside the Romney camp or have some magic telepathy to know what goes on in their minds? Everything reported about Romney before last nights debate to me was all speculation generated by others and the media. Last night Romney did his best to clarify and dispell the rumors about what he really stands for, yet here this reporter is going to sit there and ignorantly state that he lied and thats really not who he is. So if that wasn't the real Romney last night, was that the real Obama, because if so that was pitiful.

    Did he lie about our gas prices being high? Did he lie when he said job growth is stagnant? Did he lie about the massive national debt increase over the last four years? Yeah, I guess he lied about all that. I will have to tell the gas station on the way home to quit lying on the signs about the price per gallon of gas. Tell my wife who has been searching for a stable job now for two years to start calling business and to tell them to quit lying about no jobs being available.

    Only the extremely ignorant right now are denying Romney's victory last night. He might have stretched the truth in spots, just like Obama has. But the man is passionate about what he believes is the right thing to do right now whereas Obama looked like a confused, lost child.
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    Um, um, umm. That's the only truthful thing Obumble said last night. Lol. What a disgrace. Despite Obumble having 4 more minutes than Romney he still couldn't spit it out!
    Then the left says Romney was interjecting...wrong!
    Liberals use that technique if they say it enough it is true. They believe everyone will be fooled. Only those unfortunates who want to be is what I say. Obummer was the bummer I've always knew him to be.
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