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    It's time to legalize it. So much about the trade has come out in the last couple years, like how the banks and the CIA are involved it in for their lucrative tax free profits. I'm a recently retired police officer and can say, our drug policy is BS. My mom survived cancer because of medical marijuana, kids that I know that have come back from war find that it's the only thing safe that helps them for PTSD. The majority of our gang and street violence is from our marijuana prohibition. I've witnessed young kids die of alcohol poisoning, never had one die of smoking too much. I've broken up violent bar brawls, never have problems with stoners hanging out. Portugal legalized it and their violence has just about stopped and the people who would otherwise kept silent about serious crimes, are co-operating with police because they don't have to worry about ending up in a cell with the violent serious violent offenders, or end up a violent offender because of prison education. We have Marines in Afghanistan helping poppy farmers grow and transport heroin. Where is it going? To fuel tax free profits for the banks. see fox news reporting

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    no... all states, and the federal gov't should decriminalise pot... not legalise it. the gov't shouldn't regulate it, or tax it... they should ignore it. if they wish to fight drugs which cause harm, fine and dandy; have at it, i say. pot, however, is completely harmless.
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    think about this. if you really want to screw it up, let the goverment bureaucrats get involved and it will end up like 3.2 beer.
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    @marine1

    Actually the 3.2 beer thing was overblown.(At least in MO.) One was measured by volume, the other by weight. 3.2 wasn't much different than 5%. The difference was 0.2% but I can't remember what was measured which way.

    But yeah the government would probably screw it up. Hell they'd loose money on a candy store in a grade school.
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    or worse yet, like the tobacco industry. taxed beyond belief and regulated to the point that the purity of it is cut until there's hardly any tobacco in it... and you can't use it anywhere.

    i was listening to a report the other night which proved that the quality of the air in passenger air liners is much worse since smoking has been disallowed in planes. when people were smoking the air was changed on the entire plane every 2.5 minutes... now it's changed only a few times per hour. because of this the air is much dirtier, and bacteria/virus filled. what they did accomplish, however, is to save the airlines a great amt. of money because changing the air costs fuel.
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    @Thunderchicken well, according to the australians, the irish, and the brits, american beer (even at its full strength) is like having sex in a canoe. it's f'n near water.
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    YES they should! If you think marijuana is worse than alcohol, then you need to only look at the deaths caused by each. Alcohol kills thousands and thousands of people every year, yet no one is calling for it to be outlawed. Marijuana is so safe it is BEING USED MEDICALLY. Also how many other members and writers on this site have been screaming for less spending and increased revenue? THIS DOES BOTH!!! saves money on the law enforcement side and creates a big new tax income. I live in Tennessee and it is already one of the top if not the top money making crops, imagine how much better farmers could be if they could produce not just personal use crops but industrial hemp. Hemp can make paper or rope or lotions or thousands of other products. I truly hope colorado starts to wake up america out of this "reefer madness" stereotype that marijuana has unfairly gotten.
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    "Hemp can make paper or rope or lotions or thousands of other products."

    I've had this conversation with others on this site. I understand the hemp is a superior fiber to cotton. As rough as I am on cotton work clothes, I'd like to try hemp jeans.
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    Wow that's long. It is being Abused medically. It can't be regulated and determined safe for use because there are so many strains. This isn't the pot hippies remember from the 60's. It is dangerous and has the potential to be extremely dangerous.

    Incidently I have never met an intelligent pot smoker. They may be out there and I am not sure which came first; dumb and lazy or pot head. But it appears to make people feel ok with doing nothing with their life.....well except getting a check and voting for Obama. Just kidding demoncrats. But not about the getting a check.
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    @XLP Actually it has been shown to be safe for consumption and never has been shown to actually be dangerous.
    Intelligent pot heads? No. Intelligent regular users but not over users? Tons. Intelligent drunks? Not very many. Intelligent people who regularly drink but not to excess? All over the place.
    It hurts no one, has medical benefits, and the economic costs of fighting its use are just not worth it.
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    @Thunderchicken I'm curious myself, for much the same reason. I've tried jeans that supposedly enforce the knee area, and got the same result, holes in the knees. I'd be willing to try superior fibers if they really panned out.
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    @Fishbone345

    You can buy hemp jeans for $115 plus shipping. But they're more like fashion jeans than work jeans. Hence the nutty price. For now I'll stick with Wranglers. They've given me the best value.
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    you are totally correct that they have been against it from day one, also the american chemical industry. check out a book by Jack Herer called The Emperor Wears No Clothes, he really calls out DuPont for their part in criminalizing hemp and marijuana.
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    I used to believe this too, but think about it this way. What would stop the alcohol industry from also selling marijuana? They should WANT to see it legalized so they could go into the business. It's a goldmine waiting to happen, and these companies would be the first to jump on the bandwagon.
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    @XLP okay, again... do you have any reasons, or are you simply into shouting nonononononononononononono. does it make you feel good or something?
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    Yes they should. I've scanned through the comments on this subject and all the objections are mere prejudice and fear mongered rants. to say that everyone that smokes is a lazy welfare bum (seen that a lot on here) would be like saying everyone that drinks beer is a raging abusive alcoholic or everyone of catholic belief are gay bashing pedophiles. its simply irrational. there has not been a single reported death from marijuana use. how are we as a society okay with cigarettes that have known cancer causing chemicals added to it legal and a medically advantageous herb isn't legal. are we that blind to the corruption of it?
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    Just decriminalize it. The problem with doing that right now is that the economy is entrenched around illegal drugs. First there would be fewer arrests. That in turn means less cops and less jailers. Drugs were made illegal because alcohol was made legal. The underlying criminal network, as well as the "decent" people who were helped by it needed something else to be illegal.
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    no... it's not a drug. cocaine is a drug, heroin is a drug, meth is a worse drug... pot is an herb and has no ill effects on the human body, nor on the mind.
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    The war on drugs has changed to the point that the lagest enemy is produced by pharmaceutical companys.how do we combat when they have a liscence to deal.marijuana is just a casualty of a ongoing lost cause.cartels and gamble are the face of the war on drugs.just one frustrated american to another
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    @TheLoneRanger -- You're kidding, right?

    My twist on an old saying: those who refuse to study history deserve to repeat it. The last time we had a federal prohibition on a recreational drug (alcohol), we ended up with organized crime and income taxes. Please be careful what you wish for.
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    As the old saying goes "Mother's milk leads to heroin". Weed is the least dangerous of ANY recreational substance out there. So why are cigarettes and alcohol legal and it is not?
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    It's long overdue to legalize marijuana for adult use, it causes far less harm than alcohol and prescription medications, the only reason it has not already been legalized is because of the fear mongers of the DEA.
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    The DEA isn't the only villain in the cannabis prohibition. Follow the money -- read the list of those organizations and companies who are footing the bill for the ads to keep it illegal. You'll find big brewers like Anhauser Busch and big pharmaceutical companies like DuPont and Phizer.
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    @Denizen_Kate Drugs are big business on both sides of the legal line. The criminals, the banks, the drug enforcement agencies, at the least would lose out if even pot was made legal. There is just too much money being made under the table and above to get any kind of support from government or the financial world. Never mind the cartel types. I feel the violence associated with drugs is more the fault of the government than the users who ingest.
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    @MRMacrum -- hold on ... let me put this bong down before I respond ...

    Cannabis users are the most non-violent people on the planet. We feel too good to make trouble for anyone.:-)
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    @Denizen_Kate I could see where violence might be a serious buzz kill. ............ Uh wait a minute,,,, where was I..............Oh yeah, pot makes you stupid. But it's a fun stupid.
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    This is really a no-brainer. It's refreshing to see Px come off of a guest-contributor whose only agenda may be sticking-it to those thugs at Big Pharma. I'm glad that I caught this before I left the house this morning, because this umbrella will come in handy with all of the flying pig-s**t that's sure to be falling outside.
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    I think the war on marijuana has been going on for over 100 years and it has failed. It's time to admit it, stop spending massive amounts to combat it while enriching thugs and causing the deaths of law enforcement personnel and the deaths and imprisonment of harmless citizens. I don't see a problem with taxing people who want to sell it for a living, but it will be very hard to tax individuals who grow it for their own use. I do not believe that marijuana makes people violent, but I do believe that it has harmful effects on people's health and it makes people lazy and unable to concentrate. For those reasons, if it is legalized then its legal use should be restricted from minors, it should still be illegal to drive under its influence, there should be no protections from being fired from a job for testing positive for its use (especially in jobs like transportation where other's lives depend on the employee) and people should not receive unemployment insurance or welfare if they test positive for its use. If you prefer to sit at home smoking a bong, watching TV and eating chips instead of working then you should not get public assistance to do it.
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    "but it will be very hard to tax individuals who grow it for their own use."

    Grower's license. Get caught without it and it's a big fine AND jail time.
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    @Thunderchicken It is legal to grow tobacco without a license and it is legal to make beer and wine for your own use (at least in my state). All of those are taxed when sold by vendors, but not taxed when grown for personal use. Why should marijuana be different if it is legalized?
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    @Dan_Tien I agree Set up the same structure as for wine and beer [200 gal/yr for individual use only] and very stiff fines/jail time for those who grow beyond limit and/or with intent to sell
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    @Dan_Tien

    As you said, the supplies and ingredients for other vices are taxed. I don't see a way to do that with pot. I've never heard of someone growing personal use tobacco. That aspect never occurred to me.
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  • #244
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    Yes ok if your catholic then listen to this catholic monks use cannabis to be relaxed and meditate and be focused and close to God.

    I don't get how drinking is legal when all it has done is caused people to crash into a tree car house people etc. and die

    Cigaretes have chemicals in them they get the tobacco from the ground which is fine natural tobacco is fine nothing wrong with that but what they do with cigaretes is they get tobacco throw it in a factory and put harmful chemicals in the tobacco to get addicted and cause lung cancer, unlike weed you can only die from it if you smoke your body weight which is impossible weed comes from the ground you roll it up and smoke it totally natural.

    You know think about this if the whole world smoked a joint at the same time there would be world peace for like 30 minutes.

    God created everything every plant and he gave us a gift of marijuana, the holy herb, is what I like to call it and the gov. Is taking that away from us because their blind they think weed can kill you and make people go crazy well you know what I bet they used to smoke weed and probably some smoke it occasionally but still say its wrong their hypocrites more people have died smoking cigaretes and drinking alcohol and people had died smoking MJ umm let me think oh yeah zero times.

    But we are getting there Colorado has been legalized and I wish I lived there gosh that would be amazing but Texas is being lazy an not letting weed be legalized we can do it we can start a petition or protest for weed to be legalized. We can do this do it for ourselves do it for your friends do it for MARIJUANA!
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    I don't understand this website; it doesn't let most of us create topics, but for some reason allows posters to create identical topics over and over and over and over and over and over and over...
  • #242
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    How are people being encouraged to drive after consuming cannabis? You know it will be against the law to do so even when cannabis is legal. It would be treated the same as alcohol. Don't understand where your coming from.
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    How are people being encouraged to drive after consuming cannabis? You know it will be against the law to do so even when cannabis is legal. It would be treated the same as alcohol.
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