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    not just no, but HELL NO! They have well paying jobs for minimal work, best health care and benefits at no cost to them, bloated, massive pensions that they don't have to contribute a dime to. quit crying and do your damn job or quit and get a private job where you pay for you and your families health care, pay your own retirement, at 1/2 the salary you make!
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    Let me explain how wrong you are. I am a retired Federal employee. Yes I did retire with a well paying job bit I held several different positions in my 25 years and I can assure you there was nothing about them that required minimal work, I do not have a massive pension and I did contribute to it evey 2 weeks. I agree I did have and still do have wonderful health care but I don't believe paying over $500 a month for this health care constitutes no cost to a government employee or retiree. I am thankful ever time I have to see a doctor or have medical test done for the health bebefits I have and I do feel sympathy for all citizens without health benefits. I can't imagine where you received the information you posted here since it isn't true. I am no fan of the job that our senators and congressmen & congresswomen have done or I should say haven't done but they contribute to their retirement & health benefits also.
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    US Office of Personnel Management. Another unneeded Government Agency suckling at the teat of taxpayer money. Good to see our investment working so well.
    "People are unhappy at work". Thanks, is the Sun hot too?
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    No, the sun is actually SO cold it generates heat!!! Or....is it? We....we should really convene a months or years long scientific study to answer this question,
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    @fishbone. Do you have any concept of what Office of Personnel mgt. does? Have you every been employed by a corp of any significant size that did not have a personnel dept. They didn't conduct the survey they commented on it. I think you'd find similar comments from a survey of any major corp. Every employee is sucking on the teat of their employer.
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    @martydotcom Yes I'm aware how bureaucracy works. More often than not, they justify reasons for their existence. Most workers and bosses can figure out how to make things better themselves without the need for outside help.
    The hospital I worked at once hired GE to come and help us make things better in our surgical setting.
    Almost every one of their "improvements" came from within, the employees asked to sit in meetings with them. We shelled out several million dollars for this BS. A meeting with employees and management in the hospital could have done the same thing without the bill.
    Bureaucrats will always come up with ways they are "needed". And more often than not its smoke and mirrors.
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    @Fishbone345 equating bringing in a consultant is like comparing apples and oranges to a corp or federal personnel dept.
    I did a stint with McKinsey & co. Part of the job is to bring management and employees together in a productive environment and end up with each feeling that they came up with the solution thereby avoiding any difficulty with implementing changes.
    What wasn't apparent in your post. GE I would assume spent significant time within each group/dept. defining their role and their problems executing. They did the same with mgt. I would assume the project went beyond the surgical setting you were exposed to. Every assignment I was involved with included total governance of the operation from accounting IT systems & procedures, patient intake - discharge - procedures & cost analysis. ER the biggest fee generator would been gone thru with a fine tooth comb from the moment the patient came thru the door until wheels were rolling ..and so on thru every dept.
    The only was a consultant business can exist is, their recommendations MUST result in more savings than the fee the charge amortized over a given period. If they couldn't justify their existence financially, they would cease to exist that's just common sense
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    I know what they need to raise thier spirits, ANOTHER DAY OFF!!!! I propose National Peanut Butter day. We give them 2 days off for that, in honor of both the ingredients. I think peanut butter is worthy of a national holiday, it helped win world war two. And government employees always honor the reason for thier day off whether its veterans day, flag day, presidents day, I know on those days I always see a govt. employee thanking a veteran, saluting the flag and reminding people who george washington was.
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    That's a pretty broad brush you've got there. Do you truly believe that half the federal workforce does 'nothing'? If so, I recommend doing some research on the many different parts of the federal govt and who they employ and for what reasons.
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    @Thegrif Oh, so you were one of the people that did nothing and you assume everyone did as you did?
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    @AceLuby oh no! You are right every Fed employee works their butt off. I think everyone realized I wasn't talking about all Fed emplys, except you. There is no gov't waste and no gov't employees get pay checks wasted on them. Please everyone knows thats a lie. As for what I did, dont worry about it.
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    @Thegrif I never claimed any of that, just that your brush is very broad to paint millions of workers as people who do 'nothing'.

    You were the one that said most of them do nothing. You also said you know because you worked as a federal employee. Is it so much to assume you did nothing and were a leech off the American taxpayer like you claim most other federal employees are?
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    Quit and try and get a job in the private sector whine asses ! To bad this can't be compared from last years unemployment to this years right ? Shut and go to work !
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    It's not a popular point of view on the left but I feel that government workers are often the bottom of the barrel employees. Lines rarely move slower than at a typical post office and if you have ever had to deal with people in the immigration offices you've seen even worse. I frankly don't care if they feel more miserable. They certainly have often made me feel that way. This doesn't apply to all gov't workers but it does to more than half of the ones that I've dealt with.
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    By the way this does not apply to teachers, military, policemen and firemen all of whom do a great job under difficult conditions and certainly don't earn what they are worth.
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    My dad died this morning I am thankful you told me to enjoy my time. I am thankful. I was. With him. Off topic I know but you wished me a ware trip and good time that means a lot
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    @LetsAllBeHappy I am very sorry to hear of your loss but am glad that you were able to be there. It is better that way. Life won't be normal for a while but you will get through it. Take the time to reconnect with your family. You all are blood no matter what differences. Just don't let brother(D) whack you again. My sympathies.
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    @LetsAllBeHappy Off topic again. Just wanted to say hello and hope that you are holding up OK. Good thoughts heading your way.
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    @PNWest just got home this morning and checking e-mail-found yours from politix. I hope you are aware of how much your thoughts and prayes helped me. Give me a week and i will be back as ever. ;)
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    Federal workers have jobs (which many Americans don't these days) with the promise of pay raises and the sweetest retirement plan available for middle-class Americans. So suck it up. If you were supposed to be there to have fun then you should be paying your employer instead of the other way around.
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    Federal Workers More Miserable Than Last Year
    GOOD!!!! I surely hope that they are all ashamed of themselves as they should be for yrs and yrs of ripping off the USA Taxpayers.
    Maybe we will get lucky and hundreds of them jump off tall buildings right before christmas.
    Its the best thing for their country.
    "You will find out what's in the bill after we pass the bill"....and Pelosi Laughs!!!!!
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    I flat out could not care less whether federal workers are more happy than in the past. They're obese, incompetent and lazy. I could not possibly care less what their frame of mind is. What I do think they should be is scared to death that their job is history if they didn't measure up to tough but attainable performance reviews. These people are nearly zombies in terms of efficiency and I'm fairly certain Zombies move faster.
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    The Obama federal 'working hordes’ print money day and night to pay their outrageous benefits since they do not have a budget or any limits during almost four years of Obama. Obama set sky as their limit on buying votes by re-distribution of free checks and free phones to Blacks, Hispanic , Asians, free loans to Black Hispanic and Asian students, free mortgages to their Democratic party base and unions and free food stamps to illegals from all over the world. The federal workers are printing money day and night and spreading checks to Obama's interest groups all over the world including unions and Mozlem brothers. They also busy in destroying the private sector small businesses and corporations by doubling the taxes fines and, fees and by adding worthless new million regulations to protect the planet with tons of extra paperwork that the small businesses need to prepare. The Federal workers aim at making all efforts to make sure the small businesses and US corporations become losers and non-profitable and lose lots of money in too much taxes and regulations. The federal workers earn twice than the private sector for the same equivalent job and they enjoy the security that allows them lots of freedom to do whatever they like on the job. There is no way to fire Federal worker who watch porn videos on the job or secret service agents that go to prostitutes on the job. In addition, the Federal workers enjoy the better health care than the average America and they enjoy pension that most Americans do not even dream about. They make the American people miserable while living like kings on the back of the people that they tax and fine every single day in the name of liberalism and global warming.
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    if they have a steady job with bens what do they have to complain about. they are not working for min wages.
  • #29
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    They need to complain about all the useless federal agencies , quit their job and move to the free market to make our government smaller.
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    @tomincali LOL..I have a pit that is almost a year old, such a baby doll...I feel bad I insulted pit bulls all over the country!...
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    Public service employees are not etitled to free expression. Does not matter what their opinion is. They just need to do their jobs.
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    Not as good a reason as much of America. I find it difficult to feel as much empathy for say the DC area and it's way below the national unemployment rate against the high rate here or where it is even worse than my state has.
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    Nope....join the club. They should be happy to have great benefits and retirement for minimal work. If they are unhappy they should go get a second job.
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