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    They already leave home at dark and come back home after dark five days a week. Do they want them to attend on week-ends? Maybe they will provide beds and keep them overnight. Geez!
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    Because schools do not teach well in the time they have now. It's all a social circus. Use the class time there is wisely. Split classes for advanced kids so they can move on at a quicker pace and others can get more one on one time. Learn to utilize what you have before you ask for more. However, I do think school shouldn't start until around 9am and end at 5pm that way kids are awake and alert.
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    Yes, and while we're at it, get rid of summer vacation. We're no longer in the agricultural era, we are now in the information age and the speed of business is fast and constant. Have 2 weeks in between semesters and make school year round. This accomplishes a number of things. First, families would have more flexibility to plan vacations instead of trying to cram everything in over the summer. The greater flexibility also relieves pressure from tourist destinations as visits would be more panned out. Second, kids still have learning fresh in their minds. In other words, the first month of the school year isn't wasted on re-learning last year's material. Third, this puts the U.S. more in line with competing nations who already have children on a year-round rotation. Fourth, this schedule better prepares kids for the real world. When they grow up, there are no 3 month summer vacations, snow days, and 6-7 hour workdays. Break em' in now and they'll be used to it when they become adults. Yes, this may be harsh, but the way the world is going, harsh will better prepare them.
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    I punched "great Idea" by default. Anything that brings back scholastic efforts rather than babysitting skills is a great idea. But more hours alone are no guarantee.
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    @Cool_voter

    It might be different if kids were actually doing something constructive with their time, but most are in daycare when they aren't in school or they're parked in front of the TV, computer or video game. Too many of them are already fat and can't read, write or add two plus two.

    The days of children working on farms is gone. Extra hours in school could provide them with more necessary academic skills and extracurricular activities.
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    @Cool_voter
    I'm with you, Cool Childhood is a flash in the pan, anyway. Let kids enjoy it while it lasts.
    If you want to make teaching more effective, have smaller classes and don't lump all the kids into one group. The faster learners need to be in excelled learning, the slower kids kept in a class setting with their peers.
    I skipped a lot of school when I transferred from private to public, simply because most of what they were teaching us were things I had already learned.
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    @PayThatCEO maybe it's the parents just not doing their job. It's not easy but you have to out forth alot of effort.
    It's not the schools, governments, or neighbors job to raise anyone else's kids..
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    There are so many problems with our public schools I don't know where to start. The state test must go first, before anything else. School should be year round with breaks in between. The trouble makers as well as the special needs students that are disruptive should be put into another classroom. Before everyone jumps down my throat about the special needs students I will explain my daughter is partial deaf and wears hearing aids the last four years of school she has been in a classroom with a child that screams 90% of the time. I went to the school over this, because 1 my daughter and no one else was learning anything with this child in the room and 2 all the screaming was damaging my daughters hearing further. I was told the parents know of the problem, but insisted their child be in a regular classroom. I am all for fairness, but this was not fair to anyone in the class with this child. Lastly parents need to do their part like keeping the game controllers and other nonsense out of the way until homework is completed for the night. We can not expect others to teach our children if we are not doing the same at home.
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    Since it seems that schools are unable to effectively teach 'The Three R's' I can't see any reason to teach more of nothing. Show me some true education and then maybe we can talk but, til then, the idea is a waste of time and money.
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    I am thinking the quality of the content is more important than the amount of time. We need to get back to the basics such reading, writing, math, history, and science. Sports, art programs, music programs, are fine and dandy, but those should be after school activities that are funded 100% by the parents. Only a small fraction of the students (less than .02%) actually turn these electives into jobs.
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    @Buzzfriendly - I am not familiar with statistical IQR, but I don't think that measuring the dispersion of a group will achieve any outcome.
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    There are more than enough "crap" courses in college that are forced on students. Get rid of this garbage and you could whittle a 4-year degree down to 2 years. Of course, then colleges and banks wouldn't make near as much money.
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    @DerivePI Your correct because you would need bad data to begin with. IQR is the difference between the upper and lower quartiles (and yes I had to look that up to refresh my memory). Perhaps I would have done better in statistics had I taken more art classes :--)
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    Stop teaching to the test and do some real teaching then the hours won't be needed. It kills me that all they do is practice for those state tests! They don't get hands on work and they aren't learning anything but what is going to be on those tests! Maybe we should send our teachers to Japan and learn how they do it over there because our kids surely aren't learning anything here
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    The area of farmer Bob's land in acres is expressed as the integration from 0 to 4 of 3 dx. If farmer Bob can make a profit of $21,000 per acre, does Obama think that he can "afford" to spread his wealth around ($250,000)? How much lazier or more industrious should he be to make up the difference?
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    I'd say yes definitely if those extra 300 hours will be spent teaching subjects that ACTUALLY matter like the 3 R's. If the time is being spent on a bunch of feel good foolishness or PC "issues" then it's a waste of time and money.
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    they are indoctrination center now.

    have you heard the new Ed Asner fairy tales made for the kiddies?
    yes in cooperation with the California State Teachers Union
    it's a lovely little fairy tale about communism and what a good fit that will be for this country.
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    The basic problem in many schools is that trouble making kids are kept in school as if it's some imperative from GOD. BS If they are causing trouble, skipping, disturbing class, let them quit, in fact, kick them out.

    One reason you need long school days now is 30% of class time can easily be taken up with the troublemakers. And those kids can create an entire atmosphere of disrespect.
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    As personal observation I would guess that the actual percentage of parents doing any real parenting these days would be somewhere between 10-20%. when is the last time you heard a parent admit to being a bad parent? Well someone is because we're turning out kids that have zero social skills. If you're going to expect schools to raise your children for you, and it's obvious most do, then the schools are going to have to have them longer periods of time. You wouldn't mind if they send them home to sleep would you?
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    You can attribute much of those zero social skills to today's technology. Kids today do most of their communicating through IM's, texts, e-mails, etc. all of which require no interaction or ability to communicate. Guess there's something to be said for a simple phone call......
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    @LGRepublican All the technology is fine but they need to channel those skills into something productive and not just social networking. Needs to be more than video games.
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    kids have done well up to this point.longer hours is not going to help those who are not putting out an effort to learn and bringing the rest of the schools gpa down to what we have.

    in my area districts has stooped to bringing in students with higher gpa's to low preforming schools to bring that gpa up knowing it is not the teachers it is what they have to work with. thing is all these schools with low gpa's all have high levels of esl students which bring down the whole school be the huge numbers.

    now if the above schools have the same problems as here in ca those hard working students will be punished to pull the dead weight of laggers.
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    Most people who have never taught in a public school would be surprised at how much time is wasted during the day! Longer school days equals more wasted hours, but since it's mostly a government run babysitting service, most parents probably will not care! On a side note, do the teachers get a proportional pay raise for the extra hours put in? Will taxes go up to cover extra expenses? Will an extra meal be served? etc etc
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    The only reason we should extend school days for our kids is for working parents to have tax-funded childcare. Maybe we should have school from 6:30am to 6:30pm to make sure most parents can be home by the time their kids get home. Making teachers work 80 hour weeks is good for them... it makes them better teachers when they don't have a home life... and they already get paid enough to cover the extra hours... Our country has the longest work week of all 1st world countries, so why shouldn't our kids have the longest school week. It makes us out-produce all other countries, and keeps our families together and highly functional... I think we should start school at age 2 1/2... why shouldn't they learn the American value of long hard work days as soon as they are potty trained?
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    Joking.....(I hope). But......TRUE for the most part! By the way, have you also thought about 2nd and 3rd shift teaching for the parents that work those shifts? Teachers can just move into their classroom. Then we could charge them rent/utilities and save on the pay? Whacha think? LMAO
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    @stepped_in_it - Yes! Let's make all schools boarding schools! we just give birth to them, then send them off for 18 years... teachers and kids can live together in a total learning atmosphere 24/7! Now, we could enhance the kids' ability to pay off our national debts by getting them into trade schools the moment they show an aptitiude for something... That way, they can go from boarding school to the workplace... Yeah, that's the ticket! LOL!(gee, I wonder if this has ever been tried...*snark!*)
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    @DogLady_1 My take on kids: Feed them Valium, throw them in a closet. When they turn 18, give them a one way bus ticket and YOU move, leaving no forwarding address........bahaha
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    Good idea. More hours and less students in classes. Of course we need teachers who care
    about the students instead of themselves, like in New Jersey.
  • #59
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    We have the technology so what are we waiting for?
    Why isn't Obama and the department of education doing anything about this?
    We can easily set up internet education, and it would be far easier to take into account individual students' needs in such an educational setup than it is in a classroom, plus "geography" ceases to be a factor. A kid in California and a kid in New York can be enrolled in the same class. I remember there were so many interesting looking classes I had to miss my senior year because they didn't have the number of students. That's not a problem if we use online education and having a working class doesn't depend on a bunch of people living in the same exact area wanting to take it.
    We don't need more time in school, we need a more flexible educational system. What's the point in the future auto mechanic taking pre-calculus? Or for that matter the future English professor? And should a math wiz have to suffer through so much english and social studies? With English the standard should be: Can the kid effectively speak the language? Once that is "yes" then they should continue only if it's relevant to their life's pursuit.
    Students are forced to take classes in things they will never use when they could be taking more useful classes. They do poorly and then they conclude that they're just all around failures and give up when they would've done better and been more motivated if they took classes in line with their own interests.
    Someone is going to bring up "well roundedness". Well what's so great about that? A jack of all trades is a master of none. Well roundedness is an excuse so colleges can get more money making you take courses you don't need.
  • #58
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    It would be great if the children were getting smarter and learning more but that's not the case. When I was younger I can remember getting out of school before Memorial Day and not returning until after Labor Day now in our school district kids don't get a long summer they get out at the end of may and go back at the mid to end of July and we wonder why there are so many fat kids they don't get the time to play and be kids. Sad thing is its not about the kids it's about the school district getting more money from Uncle Sam
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