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    "but state rights is a better thing."
    In that we agree. I am totally for States Rights. And in this case, Connecticut decided for itself. Shouldn't we as a nation respect that? I don't live there, I shouldn't have any say so on their state law.
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    Anti-abortion but pro-Death Penalty? More ironic is 80% of those who support the Death Penalty are Christians. I'm a Christian, but I also feel sickness when I read about the hundreds that have been killed by our States that were proven later to be innocent. I cannot live with that. Abolish the Death Penalty.
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    @FollowTheMoney Lawyers are not what is wrong with the system in which wrongfully accused men are put to death. Eagerness, watering at the mouth if you will, to kill when a crime has been committed is the problem. And that's not just the lawyers suffering from that.
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    Genesis 9:6 “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image.

    Exodus 21:12 “Whoever strikes a man so that he dies shall be put to death.
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    @Fishbone345 Litigation for profit, lawyers eager to make a name for them selves and thus securing their careers and fortunes are the motivation for over zealous prosecution.
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    @FollowTheMoney District Attorney's? I think you are overestimating what their salaries are. The money for lawyers is working for firms and in big defense.
    The motivation for over zealous prosecution comes from pressure from a community. It always has.
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    ok so the libs are shocked and dismayed that common people can own a m4 bushmaster.....on the other hand they feel compassion for the worst criminals society knows to the extent of abolishing the ultimate penalty? typical .
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    I agree. They will protest worst criminals being put to death,but they support abortion. What is wrong with these liberals?
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    only reason to ban is the cost vs life w/o parole. The last five executed in Fl spent more than 25 yrs on death row. Add to high security cost + million on lawyers - throw them in a hole and forget about them
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    @martydotcom I agree with that sentiment... however if they're convicted and sentenced to death I say that they get one chance at appeal that has to happen within 2 or 3 years and then that's it.. curtains
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    @Bonnie_Blue hey watch it!! That pesky unborn child deserves to die. It plans on putting a damper on their party lifestyle. God forbid someone have to deal with the consequences of their own actions.
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    @martydotcom that would be fine if we could throw them in a hole and forget about them. Instead they have to be supplied a better life than they ever had before.
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    Of course the death penalyty is a deterrent.

    -- LIFE: MUCH PREFERRED OVER EXECUTION:
    99.7% of murderers tells us "Give me life, not execution"
    http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2012/11/life-mu...

    -- Of course the Death Penalty Deters
    See sections C and D within
    The Death Penalty: Saving More Innocent Lives
    http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2012/03/death-p...

    -- "DEATH PENALTY DETERRENCE CLARIFIED"
    http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2012/12/death-p...

    -- DETERRENCE, THE DEATH PENALTY & MURDER RATES
    http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2012/12/deterre...

    -- Innocents More At Risk Without Death Penalty
    http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2012/03/innocen...

    -- "Death Penalty, Deterrence & Murder Rates: Let's be clear"
    http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2009/03/death-p...
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    If a person seriously believes they will get caught and they care about dying they will care about spending the rest of their life in prison.
    That after getting caught people prefer life to death doesn't mean there's a deterrent effect. People don't commit murder thinking they will get caught, unless they are trying to make a statement in which case getting executed makes more of a statement than being whisked away for the rest of one's life and forgotten about.
    If you don't think you'll get caught nothing can deter you.
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    Capital punishment is not a deterrent. Look at the very essence of deterrent theory and it will show you that it is not.
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    The barbaric and outdated practice, capital punishment will not "seek justice" for the families. It will not bring them back. It will do nothing. In fact, the reason why CP was initially used wasn't for justice, but for deterrence, but any self-respecting intellectual person would know that CP IS NOT AN EFFECTIVE deterrence, neither specific nor general. Just research what in fact Deterrence Theory states and you can see for yourself how CP fails to act as an effective deterrence.

    Furthermore, the whole ideology that many individuals in the US has on seeking justice, which in fact is more revenge. This is in fact the reason that our prisons, jails, and community based corrections are so filled (which due to these laws that revenge minded individuals lobby our legislators to instill even harsher laws) is the reason that State governments have to implement early release programs- I guess very few people realizes that these programs in fact their own fault.

    Justice is harsher in the US than in any other industrialized country. Between 2,300,00 and 2,400,000 Americans are behind bars, roughly one in every 100 adults. If you include those that are in community-based correctional supervision, one adult in 31 is under “correctional” supervision. Proportionally on basis of total population, US incarcerates five times more people than Britain, nine times more than Germany and 12 times more than Japan. Both state and federal facilities are overcrowded to the fact that it impedes on inmates human rights and the fact that they are so overcrowded, that they have become even more unsafe.
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    No. We are one of the few developed nations in the world to still use the death penalty. We kill to show that it's wrong to kill people? It's more a matter of people don't want to pay to keep them alive, which is one of the most disturbingly callous things I've ever heard in my life. How does that make any sense to anyone?
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    It's about justice. Would you have been against killing Osama bin Laden despite the thousands of people he killed? What if back in WWII if we'd captured Hitler? He killed millions. Would you want to let him live?

    You don't think it's unreasonable to make taxpayers give a mass murderer free stuff for life? That is crazy. When I'm paying my taxes, I do it to help people who deserve it and provide me with my own security. Osama and Hitler don't deserve it. If somebody want to start a charity to help these lowlifes, and they offer to feed, guard, and house them for free for life, okay let them live. But until then, it's wrong to let them stay alive at the very people they made cry's expense.
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    @Politicskid
    Yes, I would have been against killing them. Part of being a civilized society means not running around killing everyone who wrongs us. I'm a citizen of this country, and paying for public services like the prison system is part of living in this country. It's simply part of the social contract--you pay to keep the peace. I think it's barbaric to say, "I simply think your life isn't worth it" regardless of what they did. Our prison systems are a sentence worse than death in my opinion.

    We're not going to agree on this issue. We obviously have different things at stake in our moral constructs.
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    @ashgreen I find it crazy that you consider mass murder "wronging us". For crying out loud, it's the cruelest, most immoral thing a person can do!

    Honestly, if their going to rot in prison, how is there life worth it? Unless you want to let them out eventually...

    Look, sure we're one few industrialized countries with capital punishment, but we are also one of the few industrialized countries with real freedom.
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    @Politicskid Murder is the most immoral thing a person can do? Then it seems pretty hypocritical to me to turn around and do the exact same thing to another human being, no matter how terrible a person they are. You can't have it both ways.

    I say imprison them and put them to some sort of good use for society making something, doing something. If capital punishment hangs around, we need to at least make something good come out of it--they should donate their organs, but the way we kill people makes that impossible.
    The way the system is now, you repay barbarism with the same.

    I'm sorry to say this, but I also cannot take your argument seriously due to your inability to use homophones correctly.
  • #154
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    @ashgreen Capital punishment is not murder. Murder is without basis, or with insufficient basis. That is the difference.

    And yes, I'm not a real fan of lethal injection, either. I'd prefer a bullet to the head.
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    If you have the death penalty innocent people can be convicted and executed.
    It's not like we could have executed Adam Lanza. He killed himself. You can't kill a dead man.
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    I have no problem with it in a world with a flawless justice system, but that's not the case. Mistakes will be made and people who are truly innocent will be executed, so that is why I cannot support the death penalty.
  • #157
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    has the passing of laws, or the death penalty ever put a stop to crimes? or are we all ignorantly, missing the real point here? as in fact, are we avoiding the real problem here. with trying to use our laws, as a false idol safety net. a net that, does not work the way we think. if laws really work, we should have no crime today. when in fact yesterdays gone by, with fewer laws we had periods of less crime. self comfy laws are worthless, to a deteriorating society. and were all, ignoring this fact. and we can't even admit, why this nation has deteriated this much. and no amount of socialist communism against G-D, is going to fix this rotting of our society.
  • #155
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    The death penalty is really about revenge, and it's expensive.
    Accomplish the same thing by incarceration for life, it's cheaper.
    Deterrance is for the rational, not the deranged.
  • #152
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    In a nation wrought with violence, isn't the death penalty just an extension of that? Isn't it just an easy answer to a complex problem? And if we use that as justice, what in the world are we teaching our children? We'd be teaching them that revenge killing is OK.
  • #151
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    There is nothing wrong with taking a life when the person has taken a life. I guess CN enjoys paying for these murders cable TV, internet, prison guards and food. I believe all but the food should be removed from criminals
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    ""A gunman who kills 20 kids, or one kid, or one person, has forfeited their life. They no longer deserve to live, and should be executed," former California Republican Party Chairman Ron Nehring wrote on Facebook Friday."
    What a stupid statement. He's dead, moron. Why hypothetically speak about IF he had lived. He didn't. And in effect, he carried out the sentence you advocate with no monetary expense to the state.

    Personally, I think locking an idiot like this up and throwing away the keys gives them years to stew about what they did in a not terribly pleasant environment. The death penalty has never been an effective deterrent, and is unbelievably expensive compared to life imprisonment. Say nothing of the reversibility should evidence come to light that the convict is actually innocent.
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    It's a pretty big deterrent if the person cares. Anyway it has to be brought back and made swifter: no death row 10 year Court objections: do away with death row and reenact the death penalty in CT.
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    A life inmate has nothing to lose. Therefore they are difficult to handle and particularly deadly when they escape. I've always been on the fence about the DP. It's costly to administer and takes too long, but it does solve the problem of escape and gives society its 'eye.'

    So I guess this was another law that the school murderer broke: He executed himself against the wishes of the state. Plus, he brought firearms into the 'gun-free zone' of the school.

    Interesting. I guess criminals really DO break the law, eh?
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