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    NOPE..... they're likely asking the same question I have been all day....

    WHY would additional Gun Control Laws be any more effective than those existing.

    HI CAP magazines are the problem..... IDIOTIC.... 26 people killed... 2.6 ten shot magazines necessary.

    How long before someone was there to stop this CRIMINAL ACT? Compare that to how long it takes to make three or even four or five magazine changes?

    STUPIDITY...... Let's not talk about solving the problem, just use the deaths of CHILDREN to further out political aspirations.

    Disgusting.
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    Its not likely to change the minds of most NRA members...But I think it will push our national leaders to "do something" this time around...And not just regarding guns either...I think they will have to look at our mental health and treatment issues in this country as well...
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    I hope this evil deed will prompt the people to demand that congress take stiff action to put God and the bible back in our schools. We didn't have this problem until the godless liberals kicked God out of our schools.
    Case in point. We had bible reading and gospel songs and prayer in the elementary school I attended and I messed with guns and hunted from the time I was ten or twelve years old and NEVER considered killing anybody and have NEVER harmed anyone with any violent act.
    On the other hand, I was not fed a study diet of killings on t.v. or read Harry Potter's witchcraft books, either.
    When I was a child, parents and teachers discipled kids. Now they cannot without the threat of jail or social services and when kids become uncontrollable they are put on psychoactive drugs. Nothing more needs to be say. History speaks for itself. The loss of the children's lives are not the guns fault any more than the fault of the car that hauled the nut to the school. It is judges and politicans fault for allowing the godless religion to get such a foothold on our country.
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    @Art Who's "god" and who's "buybull?" Just in case you haven't noticed, there are a lot of faiths represented in this country, and that includes people who reject religious faith. I demand that the separation between church & state be maintained.

    If you want your kids to have a religiously based education, send them to religious school. There are plenty. The taxpayers who pay for public schools are Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, etc. and atheist. I do not want YOUR "god" or evil book in the schools my kids attend. and I will vote, and more, to keep them out.
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    In fairness, the Senate will try. But let's be real here. 60 Senate votes needed to pass gun control legislation (There will be 43 seats held by the GOP, who will all most likely filibuster). The House is controlled by the GOP as well as some Blue Dog Dems who are pro-2nd Amendment. Both Houses would need to pass gun control legislation, then negotiate differences, then pass a final bill before it were to get to Obama's desk for signature. Not trying to make it look like a GOP vs. Dem thing here (There are some GOP who are pro gun control while there are some Dems who are pro 2nd Amendment), but I really think the votes won't be there, regardless of the tragedy that has taken place.
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    @Art Well none of that religious nonsense is going to happen...But you certainly are free to worship any faith you like...Sure wish you would allow us to do the same.
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    Yes, we need to teach gun control and get more people carrying!! You know all the adults at this massacre would have given anything to have had a gun, no telling how many innocent little life's would have been saved if someone could have returned fire instead of being slandered !!!!
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    It shouldn't but it does because people cannot comprehend that gun control will not stop this from happening. We have "drug control" but billions of dollars in illegal drugs are sold in this country year and thousands of people die from them. It does not work that way.
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    There are fairly liberal exemptions to the requirements, "b)Exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. Further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine, or persons convicted of a felony."

    Of the 29,000 or so residents, how many are actually required to own a gun?
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    @DARSB
    haven't found the stats on your question....with that being said..... doesn't it count that the stats support what they did as working? here are some more interesting stats and they do contain some on Kennebec , GA.

    http://gunowners.org/fs0404.htm
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    Well, JOE. Congratulations. YOU JUST LOST YOUR ONLY CHANCE TO BECOME PRESIDENT. Because you LOST MY ENDORSEMENT. Enjoy RETIREMENT!
  • #50
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    @DARSB Hey Man,

    I don't know which Congressional District you live in, in what state, but I hereby offer you the opportunity to run for Congress in 2014 (assuming you don't have any felonies), as an INDEPENDENT. If you're interested, seriously, contact me. If it seems a little crazy, just keep an eye on me and join up when you feel comfortable.

    -Alex
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    There's only one problem, anywhere, it's called inability to deal with uncertainty. Uncertainty is natural but it's the cause of people's attempt to establish a means of ensuring certainty ( an unnatural premise ). Having an asinine objective requires guns. America is just as third world as anywhere else.
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    Let me see if I understand this. Reporting actual news that a senator with an A rating from the NRA says that deplores the death of children, voices an opinion that this has changed things and implies a preference for something you disagree with is "pushing to get gun control passed." I respect your right to have an opinion on gun control, as well as your right to criticize politix, but can you consider limiting your opposition to things they actually say and do? And seriously, do you think this site which it seems get about 300 to 400 votes on issues really has the clout to move congressional relations or public opinion. I mean seriously, this site, at present at least, speaks to a rather small community.
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    Isn't politix part of Huffington and AOL/Warner cable? No surprise there if their journalists are paid shills for party propaganda.
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    I too have noticed this, and it's not just Politix doing it. The "mainstream" media has been all over gun control since this (and every other tragedy) has taken place. Now you have Senators Warner and Manchin leaning that way. Thank God I'm a realist here. There will be more than 40 Senators for the GOP, meaning a filibuster (60 Senators needed to pass gun control legislation). The GOP controls the House (Both Houses would need to pass gun control legislation). Basically, this cry for gun control is a moot point. I don't see any legislation passing regarding the ban of firearms of any kind. Now, if they really want to address the issue, pass more funding and legislation to address mental health concerns, that way we can catch these nuts before they snap.
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    no and using a two faced snake like the sen from West Virginia is a joke. remember he's a pro gun guy who shot the rifle bullet through Obama's healthcare bill.... and then voted for it
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    You got it right. At that level they are all 'hogs feeding from the same trough'. No more than political 'hoes' waiting to see which way the wind blows , which directly influences their beliefs & words. Problem is , we are paying for 'sloppin all those hogs'.
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    Why Has NRA gone into total shutdown mode. They shut down their site, Facebook, not even a Tweet of hypocritical condolences to the victims. For an organization with the stated goal of defeating Obama who won in spite of their efforts, a little reflection???
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    @martydotcom unlike the idiot libs and the state run media, maybe they are giving the families time to bury their children before wading, hip deep into the political slime....you guys should take a lesson
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    Yep, most Dems ran on something, but then when they get up on the hill they forget what they ran on. Some Republicans too that become RINOS.

    Frankly it's the shadow elites that want all firepower diminished so they can establish their NWO without fear of reprisal. And the American public is falling for it on kneejerk emotional issues.

    The problem isn't guns, it's adequate health care and keeping the loony, psychosuicidal dysfunctionals from malevolence. They don't need a gun, they could take a SUV or truck and run into a kindergarden playground or toy store and create kill just as many if not more.
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    I disagree with most the commenters who say the NRA will not take this massacre to heart. I'm not sure if they will soften their rhetoric out of emotion or self preservation but I think they will. This sort of thing has touched this nation and as PN said they can (or should be able to) see the handwriting on the wall. I agree with the righties on this that no control law would have stopped this particular shooter. But it would have stopped the Colorado shooter to some degree if he hadn't gone a gun buying spree out of nowhere. Cartels are getting guns from those who go in and buy a dozen at a time. That has to stop. The right to own guns is not a right to abuse them, supply drug cartels or to mount a .50 caliber machine gun in the bed of a pickup. To interpret the constitution literally means you have the right to a single shot squirrel gun, a musket and a single shot flintlock pistol.

    I don't want to lose my guns. I won't give up my guns. But yesterday I went out and bought a gun case that has no glass in it. Solid wood and metal and it doesn't even look like a gun case. I don't need to show off my guns to visitors who may decide to kill their mother and neighborhood kids by breaking in and taking them because they know where they're at. It's time that we gun owners step and play ball with some things. If I want to shoot 100 rounds in my AR-15 then I'll do it with standard clips. If I want to shoot a home invader I'll do it with the shotgun or the .357 mag anyhow. I don't need 30 shots. I'm better than that. We won't stop killers like this one or Colorado but we can minimize the damage. And if you want drums and large capacity clips then maybe we should register them and only sell them to those who have passed an extensive background check and only if they can substantiate a need for them. The constitution guarantees the right to own guns. Doesn't say which guns.
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    It's unlikely because NRA members already support some sort of increased regulation. However, gun manufacturers would have problems with it.
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    @martydotcom irony?? Read their blog and " bullet points". No wonder they're declining comment to the press "Buy a gun for Xmas "
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    You seem to be one of the more intelligent level headed individuals here so let me run an idea by you:
    Communities (cities towns and precincts)by referendum can be voted dry(no alcohol) even though the 21st amendment makes alcohol legal. Why couldn't s referendum be placed on a ballot in say Gary Indiana that prohibits any assault weapons within city limits. Is that something that is plausible, could it withstand review from the courts ? Would like to hear your ideas
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    @mtkopf That's intriguing. To further your example, just because a right exists does not mean anyone is required to exercise it, does that sound right? I think I would have to agree - we already have restrictions by statute for facilities like airports (that came to mind since I'm currently at 30,000 feet), it seems reasonable to think that could be applied to communities as well.

    But, as any of my ex-wives would tell you, I am frequently wrong, and the fly in the ointment here may be that firearms possession is a positive right granted by the Constitution. I don't suppose any attorneys visit here and could offer an opinion?
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    @DARSB yes it does sound correct. I have the right to vote it doesnt mean the govt can force me to vote. Have a safe flight. If youre posring here i just hope you're not the one flying the plane. Thanks for input.
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    What a messed up country we live in. Just like grand theft auto.. why do we need games like that? Just watch the news to see the idiots in action. I guess it just HuMon nuture to detroy rather than build...... there are exceptions but they seem to be out procreated by the simple minded sub-simians. Man is the only animal that will kill his own brother for self gain.
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    A computer shooter game reenacting school shootings. These game developers are sick psychopathic. people
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    @John_Matrix If you that GTA is appropriate for your kids, that's your choice. Not a great parental decision in my opinion due to the fact kid (and some adults) confuse fantasy and reality all too easy. Don't you suspect that there is a reason this geeky shooter completely destroyed his computer ?
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    @martydotcom

    First off who said anything about kids playing the game? Its very clearly rated M for mature and isn't really any worse than a movie about crime. If kids are playing it when they shouldn't be then perhaps parents should get off their ass and do some parenting. As far as some geeky kid shooting up his computer, what are you even referencing? Also if you're trying to make some link between violent videogames and youth violence, there is none, especially when you consider youth perpetrated violence has been on a steady decrease since the 70's.
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    Senators and Mayors have guns but want to ban them? I dunno, seems like a mental health issue to me. I don't thin banning guns or whatever parts they're calling "assault" about a rifle, they're forgetting a crazy person could carry ten handguns - all it take is one unnecessary mass-murder to to hurt our society - how it's "done" is not all that important to me at least. And certainly not now... The politico-media is jumping ahead a bit here
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    Gun Control is not the answer, tougher penalties for committing crimes is what is needed. Three weeks ago, a friend of my wife took her family on vacation to Virginia a drunk driver drove the wrong way on an off ramp of a freeway and slammed into her vehicle head on killing her, her son, causing permanent brain damage to her daughter. The drunk not even a scratch. This was his fifth drunk driving accident and he was driving on a suspended license. He is now in jail for 18 months. Two people killed, one in a vegetative state for life. The drunk will be out on the streets probably driving again in 18 months. When are we going to start executing people who willing kill. When are we going to start putting people away for life. Guns don't kill anymore than cars kill. People kill. People need to be held accountable for their actions.
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    The senators comments about villianisings weapons was an interesting one, because doing nothing is hurting the 2nd amendment more than tighter gun controls will.

    One thing the tragic events like these are starting to do is make guns a dirty word, making gun ownership questionable to your peers. What right minded parent as NRA members want any association to these types of mass killings? Wants to be associated to an to an organisation that allows child slaughter to be easily carried out and sits by doing nothing? What NRA member wants owning a gun to be something you whisper about, because people will assume your crazy if they find out. What type of parent wants to be associated to idiotic people that say 'I need my AR or AK incase government troops come for me?'

    Doing nothing will drive gun ownership more and more to the fringes of culture, and when the top brass at NRA start to feel embarrassed to tell there friends they went hunting because guns are no longer considered cultured, maybe they will feel they have to do something!
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    it won't change anyone's mind because those limits were already in place in CT for Newtown. they do not work.
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    If Americans want to see such masscares or commit them,then there is no necessity for remewing gun contorl law.I believe that whole Americans dosen't enjoy to look children's death.
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