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    @Cheenoguy Lately, that sure is true. The left is foaming at the mouth over the gun issue and the liberal founder of Westboro is wailing to God about something or another. Busy time for liberals!
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    @Jeff_Woehrle
    The "liberal" founder who thinks Obama is the anti-Christ and wants to see gay people executed? I guarandamndtee you that you will find waaaayyyy more Republicans who agree with this guy and his politics.
    Doubt me? Go look at the threads about them and Rick Warren (who is teaching the same exact thing just not at children's funeral). Look at the people who agree on at least some level with this asshat. Check out their profile and without exception you will see a little red R under their profile picture.
    There are assholes on the left but this asshole agrees with a lot of Tea Party types.
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    @Cheenoguy Hey, don't shoot the messenger! I didn't tell Westboro's founder how to align himself politically. The fact that he's a democrat may be inconvenient to many on the left, but fact it is.
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    @Jeff_Woehrle
    I guess I'll just use a republican tactic that would actually be accurate in this case.
    He's a DINO.
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    the left is always overreacting, its part of their agenda
    rules for radicals, dont you know!!!
    They seek Complete and Utter Socialism aka A welfare /police state
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    @justapirate
    Yes you do, Because most people that know the country in going to be a bankrupted GREECE soon, Want everything cut.
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    @Vance1 No, no you don't have to be on the left to be upset about this. Take some of the time you use to listen to propaganda and invest it in studying what is really happening to SS funds. It's called a political screwjob.
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    @justapirate
    well SS shouldnt have ever been started in the first place.
    people should be smart enough, an self reliant enough to take care of themselves.
    Senators cant be trusted to run anything.
    America shouldnt have entitlement programs period
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    Let me cut to the chase here. Seniors are the largest voting block in the country BY FAR because they actually vote. You don't have to "get out the vote" with them. They vote regardless. They can control every election from President to dogcatcher. I almost hope he does sell the seniors out. Because every single person who votes for that to happen will lose their cushy job in Washington except Obama. And Obama will give back the gains the Dems have made over the past four years. You want a revolution? Cut the seniors limited money and they'll revolt. This could turn out to be a good thing.
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    We "lefties" don't elect "gods" i.,e., as the "righties" do ala "Ronald Reagan"....So anyone, and that includes this or any other president who thinks they can just kill off a needed program---that keeps millions of our elderly alive each year...is going to have to learn that this is indeed, anything but "manufactured outrage"..."Faith " is for church---this is about politics & survival....
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    @Sonny-- On the contrary Sonyy. The folks over at the Daily Kos and CPUSA know darn well that President Obama is doing more for socialism than he is letting on to the public.And they know darn well that their part in this charade of a negotiation is to make the Obama Administration look moderate in comparison.

    White House Rejects Boehner's Backup Plan
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/100323798
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    @Bobolinsky I'm not really interested in those "socialist conspiracy theories" out there...Seriously I'm not trying to be combative, or provocative...I am only concerned, at this time, with protecting social security...for our elderly.
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    @Sonny-- Really? Where were you when they cut the payroll tax? You know, the tax that is supposed to fund social security... you know... the money that's supposed to go into Al Gore's "lock box."

    Where were you when Paul Ryan was being accused of wanting to throw grandma over the cliff when his proposal didn't cut benefits for the current and soon to be senior citizens but Obamacare does?

    Your compassion for the elderly seems as manufactured as the Daily Kos' outrage at Obama.
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    I'm still laughing about the first guy hopeful liberal who is actually stupid enough to say I'm never going to lift a finger helpful Bama again... I guess the joke's on him Obama knew that the day after the election
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    That's a crock...This program is "viable" so long as the congress stops stealing from it....Soc. Security does NOT contribute to the deficit. It is paid for...
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    Can I vote for both?

    If we ever develop the will to face our problems, it's going to suck for everyone.(Been saying that to my reps for over thirty years.)
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    Social Security IS NOT AN ENTITLEMENT it is an annuity insurance plan which I paid into for all of my working life and damned well better get full payoff of the money I put into it. Just a simple aside...someone impeach this fuckhead soon...please.
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    Thank you! Wish I could vote you up twice, on the first part.
    The second part is assuming this is all Obama. Republicans want the cut, hence him offering it in negotiation.
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    On a side note....KILL social security. I'll take that 6.2% and dump it into my 401k. With luck, this will begin its phase out.
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    After indebting our children’s generation, our generation is now engaged in national debate about how much debt to pass on to our grandchildren’s and our great-grandchildren’s generations.

    Future generations should not be sentenced to a fiscal hell that is the product of our generation’s sinful spending and criminal governance.

    If this generation cannot implement honest fiscal reform, then no generation, other than our own, more rightly deserves to go over the fiscal cliff.
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    Tried to tell you people a million times.
    Obama does not negotiate period. He never gave republicans an inch, either we go along with tax increase or we go over the cliff, that was Obamas plan, just like he planned all along to go after SS. Bring America down to size is his whole plan.
    Fundamentally change America

    That's the Plan.
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  • #15
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    Mitt Romney was telling the truth about the need for entitlement reform, and Barack Obama lied about it to get re-elected. There is the difference between an honorable man, and President Obama. What's more, the slim majority voted for the liar, which just goes to show that the same slim majority desperately wants to believe in fairy tales, while reality will always come back to bite them on the arse.

    Merry Christmas!
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    Here's what I think is going to happen. Obama puts out something like this and looks reasonable. Boehner can't keep the baggers in line. Over the financial cliff we go. Obama's position is infinitely stronger. Taxes rise on the ultra-rich, a few spending cuts, the GOP looks even more extreme and 2014 looks even brighter.
  • #149
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    The President states he offered Social Security cuts as a "Compromise" -

    He claims he is trying to balance the budget.

    Heres a fact: Even if you eliminated social security it couldn't help reduce the Federal Budget or deficit.

    Why: Social security isn't funded by any part of that budget or debt - social security is funded by the taxes taken from our wages.

    So offering to cut our benefits is President Obama's way of black mailing Republicans.

    He's saying, "Those Republicans won't compromise."

    I for one believe offering to cut social security, veterans benefits and benefits to disabled Americans is not in any way a compromise.

    Its UnAmerican. Republicans need to make this plain to the President and his rich Dem pals - Social Security is not to be touched.

    Its almost like President Obama is under mining his own Party's Future. In the next few elections they will be left holding the bag for the most invasive anti gun ownership scheme and possibly the destruction of an American safety net - Social Security.
  • #147
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    Won't make much difference in bottom line by cutting amount of cost-of-living increase for all but low income individuals.
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