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    God doesn't exist. Allah doesn't exist. God's are a man made creation for the purpose of dominating other men and taking their money. Same as it ever was.
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    169% agreed. I have not alive as nearly as long as you, but I have seen and know frankly too much to know there IS NO GOD. Period. There is no magic sky fairy coming to save the world.
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    @RobertJHarsh "God works in mysterious ways". let me translate. Some people are so desperate to believe in some god that they will assume a Trojan horse outside their gates is a gift from God.
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    Fact: God told at least three of the GOP presidential candidates to run. Fact: God sent a hurricane to south Florida causing the GOP to cancel the first night of their convention. Fact: God sent another hurricane up the eastern seaboard the week before the election enabling the American people to see how well President Obama responded to a crisis. The only possible conclusion from this is that A) God does exist and B) God hates republicans.
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    Aren't you worried god will send you to hell for this? You do know hell will be filled with the typre of people that claim to be repubicans and conservatives today, don't you? Now if there is event the tiniest chance this might be true, don't you think you'd better repent?
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    This tragedy drove me and my family closer to God. When my wife heard the horrific news that 20 something kids were slaughtered like cattle she left work immediately and raced to our sons' school to pick them up. The whole weekend we spent together doing family things. I let everyone in my family know I loved them and that if anything happened to any of them there would be a big hole in my heart.

    We prayed together, cried together, and prayed together. I don't understand the godless, the people out there who think God is meaningless and they are too smart and proud to need his guidance. I try desperately hard to model my life after Christ and to be about the things he was about. I feel our country has grown darker these days, and not just because of the Newton, CT. shooting, but because there are so many broken families and people out there hurting.

    I get harassed by posters on this very site because I don't believe in welfare. Well, you know what? I bet every child in America agrees with me. I think every child would rather grow up in a household with a mother and father that loves them and would do anything in the world for them, as opposed to grow up being raised by the baby momma and a welfare check.

    I made a commitment to my wife and kids that I would draw closer to God and be an even better person. I can't see anything that is more important in this world than your family, community, and your faith in God. It's what made this country great. I don't see how we ever get back to greatness if we don't get back to what made us great.

    God bless America, and I hope he blesses you too!
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    The issue you face is your lack of knowledge so while you profess to be Christian you align yourself on political issues in direct contrast with the teachings of Jesus Christ. It does not matter that there is exactly ZERO evidence that Jesus actually existed or the fact that his story had floated around the Mediterranean for 1500 years before he supposedly existed. What matters is if you profess to follow his teaching by being a Christian then you would not have ANY of the political opinions you share on this forum. It's nice that you got closer to your family and spent time with them but while you were doing that Christians were blaming everything but the gunman and the gun. I think I've seen "The Reason God allowed that to happen was because he's not allowed in schools" at least a hundred times on my facebook feed this weekend. This is disgusting that Christians choose this moment to push their agenda of forcing Children to learn about their mythical religion in public schools but this is no different from any other tragedy that your god does not defend the innocent from harm including the malls, movie theaters and even Churches that have seen mass murders over the past decade, I'm certain God was not allowed in those Churches either.
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    Wonderful to hear your family is close.
    But if "God" is not to blame then who is? Satan? I thought God was in control of everything. Are you saying he is not? Are you saying Satan or some other thing have powers even God can not override?
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    @CommonSense - God gives us free will. He will not intrude where we tell him not to intrude. We need to welcome God back into our hearts and our homes and yes, our schools too.
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    @CommonSense God gave all people free will, and he only moves by prayer and promises. America as a nation has mostly turned its back on God and you wonder why he would allow this to happen? If you knew the Bible you would know what he allowed to happen to his chosen people for them doing the same. Everyone says "God bless America" but how has "America blessed God".
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    If God is omnipotent as is typically the definition given to God then he is by definition to blame for the massacre and all other events throughout history.
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    The world is as good as it is because God does exist. If there were no God the world would be a much worse than it is now...Can I prove it, only by having faith, and faith is believing in something without needing 'proof'.
    For those who have no belief, that is your option. I choose to see the world with hope and faith in something,
    someone bigger than myself. I believe in a Creator and that Creator is God, and yes, He is a solace to me in
    times of death and difficulties, and I find Him to be a great comforter.
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    Mimi, you know I agree with 90% of what you post here. One correction though, the world wouldn't exist at all without God. He too is my source of faith and comfort. I don't know how people live in this world with no belief in anything but themselves. It's truly disgusting.

    May God continue to bless you and your family!
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    The world is what people wanted it to be.
    God is not out to prove he is God, he is not here to keep people alive or out of trouble. People assume if there is a God then why doesn't he step in and make the world like candy land? Why doesn't he make people be good?
    First God did give us paradise, but we only have to look at Adam and Eve and people had already started to wreck paradise
    Because people were Gods grandest creation he gave to them free will, to do as they will.
    Well, how do you like your work? This is the result of our work.
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    @Thegrif

    the cult lesson from the garden of eden is clear..."do not seek knowledge. Do just as you are told and all will be perfect.". Hard to get more cult-like uness they ask you for money....ooops...
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    @woodtick57 so if I could tell ya how to absolutely have the perfect life, paradise.
    You would choose not to listen and do as I told you?
    Well people making choices like that is exactly what is wrong here my friend.
    The devil tempted them with knowledge, and with other things. Telling them that they could be like God, that they could know as much and even create life like God.
    The earth has been screwed up ever since. Look around, this is mans work, the result of our choices.
    The biggest lie the devil ever pulled off was making people believe that he and God are not real, and just religous mumbo jumbo.
    So we have what we have today, sadness and dispare.
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    Really??? We as a nation have kicked God out of our schools, we have as a nation kicked God out of our homes and now, we as a nation have thumbed our noses at God with legalizing gay marriage and now we have the nerve to ask where was God or why did God. Wow!! If you don't believe in God...fine...that is your right as and American and also as part of God's creation. But please don't even begin to say that because God did not stop this horrible event must prove He does not exsist. All it does prove is that evil does exsist, and if there is a force of evil then there must be an equal and oppisite which would be good. Dark and light, deny it if you must but just because people deny God does not mean there is no God. And one last thing the only hope for our nation is to return to the principles that the founding fathers, who by the way, where by majority, God fearing, believers, used to write our Bill of Rights and Constitution, based on Biblical principles.
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    Assuming there is a G-d Id describe this statement as a piercing glimpse into the obvious..I guess G-d must have been pre occupied in the end zone paying attention to a score.
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    Of course "He" isn't to blame, but it does show justification that, if there is a "God" -(a) that "He" has no control over this world; and/or (b) "He" chose to envoke free will, and not use "His" 'all-powerfulness' to help those children. "God" then must be unable to help in the manners that Christianity presupposes. To the families of S.H.E.S.- may you find the strength within to overcome the difficulties that have arisen.

    Happy Holidays to all.
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    This event is just one of many that proves what the Christians say about god is just not true. Christians teach that god is love, is all powerful, and involved in human affairs. Clearly all 3 cannot be true when 20 kids are murdered. It was teachers and school staff that tried (and thankfully succeeded for some) to keep those kids alive. Either god can't stop these tragedies (meaning he isn't all-powerful) or he doesn't care if they happen (meaning he isn't loving).
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    Try the rejection of the notion of God, as well as family values seasoned with a healthy dose of the media sensationalizing things like this is to blame. Your Liberal ideas permeating the fabric of the country are to blame. The idea that everyone deserves a trophy, there are no losers we are all winners. The idea that everyone deserves to have the same standing in society. Survival of the fittest works. You Leslie, and your cohorts should take a page from the theory of Evolution and stop trying to make everyone equal. Nature has a way of setting things right.
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    We need to understand that those children were GODs children even before they were intrusted to those parents. And all the suffering that is going thru those parents hearts is magnified a million fold in GODs heart. HE even felt the terrable sorrow and sadness caused by one of His children commiting this terrable terrable act. GOD is right beside us AT ALL TIMES but HE gave us ALL free will to do so as we desire. HE could live ourlives for us but what good would that have done. I will surelly tell you this. THE LORD AND SAVIOR hold all those innocent souls in His hands and those souls are once again HOME where they came from in the first place. Our febel terestrial minds CAN NOT fanthom the meanings of things YET! But when our celestrial bodies are put on again, we will rejoice with those children and all the souls that GOD THE FATHER created.
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    This writer and those who defend what this writer says are only a step or two away from making justifications such as the Wesboro Lunatic fringe does. If you can defend your God for not stepping in and helping those children it's not that far for crediting God for allowing them to be killed.
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    Evil has always existed and will continue to exist until the end of time...God created all of us to have 'free will' or
    we would be robots. No one knows why this person did what he did, but, it will only be the Christians who will be
    able to forgive and move on..as long as Evil thrives , so will these kind of tragedies.
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    @woodtick57 It has been my experience that only through knowing the forgiveness of God, can we learn to forgive.. My dad was atheist, I loved him dearly, but he was not a very happy or forgiving man. I was also very
    close to a guy who was atheist, we dated for almost a year and knew that our differences in something so
    fundamental as the belief of God , or disbelief of God , were too conflicted to go further. Those are my personal
    experiences with non- believers. Human nature makes it hard for us to forgive. I believe we can only truly forgive
    because of God, I believe that, because He forgives us, so therefore , we are more able to forgive others. It still
    isn't easy.
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    @mimi57 That doesn't answer the question. Who are you going to forgive? the killer? He's dead and according to your religion his fate lies in the hand of your God. It's no longer your call. His mother for leaving the guns so he could do this? She's dead. Same result. Up to your God. There is no one here for you to forgive.
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    God is not to blame for mentally unstable or bad people do to innocent people of any age. God doesn't control us, he gave us free will to make our own chooses.
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    That should be for 'what' mentally unstable or bad people do to innocent people of any age. God doesn't control us, he gave us free will to make our own chooses.
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    If your God is what the "scriptures" say he is, then if he wanted things to be different, then he would have made people/events/things different than they are. This is probably one of the most clear pieces of evidence that proves this God can not be true.
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    @normanbites God didn't make us to be puppets,that's why he gave us free will. He gave you the free will to not believe in him. That's your chose,but I choose to believe.
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    Why do terrible things happen to us? Why does some tragedy hit when we least expect it? Good things happen too. Why do we sometimes feel so lucky, so fortunate, so happy? Why is mot of life in the neutral in-between range?

    Because it's life. We have our ups and downs because that's life. Things happen to us because things are always happening.

    "God" adds nothing to explain this. It is not an explanation, just a cop out.

    God does not exist.
  • #176
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    Terrible and great things happen, the most terrible and the most wonderful are chosen by us. Without knowing one and the other they become a pale imitation. These things are our resposibility this is just another way of saying "Don't Want It, YOU do It"
  • #172
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    God gave free will to man kind. His mother was told that her son would have to commit a crime before anything could be done about his violent outbreaks. Commit a crime he did. The situation could have been prevented if the right actions would have been taken and her concerns would have been respected. That man needed to be institutionalized but that was ignored. Those are the consequences of lack of action taken, the choice was made.
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  • #165
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    For one thing, God was kicked out of our school system, so maybe His hand is not upon the school system. Also, you can't blame God, if you believe in Him.
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  • #162
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    People really want to blame God for this, yet we want to take God out of our schools and eventually take Him out of this Country, but then expect Him to make sure tragedies don't happen to us?!?! God isn't the one to blame this on! Just like guns aren't to blame this on. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. They just may choose to use the gun. However if you take guns away then people will just use some other weapon to kill with and murder and crime rate with increase drastically because law abiding citizens won't have anything to defend themselves with.
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