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    I would support doing away with that antiquated relic we are dragging around confusing the issues. The person that gets the most votes must be the winner. But our flawed system allows the other, the vote loser can still win...................... Insanity..........
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    The President and Vice President should be elected by popular vote. That way the candidates would have to make their case to all of us - not just those in swing states. What the GOP wants to do is keep winner take all in states that vote republican and have proportional voting in states that vote democratic. The last thing republicans ever want to see is every body voting and every bodies votes counting equally. They can't win elections like that because the majority of the people disagree with them on the issues. Remember that there were between 500K and 1M more votes for democrats running for congress and that only because of GOP gerrymandering do the reps have a majority in the house of representatives. If the congress was decided based purely on popular vote the dems would have the majority.
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    The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC).

    Every vote, everywhere, would be politically relevant and equal in presidential elections. No more distorting and divisive red and blue state maps. There would no longer be a handful of 'battleground' states where voters and policies are more important than those of the voters in 80% of the states that now are just 'spectators' and ignored after the conventions.

    When the bill is enacted by states with a majority of the electoral votes– enough electoral votes to elect a President (270 of 538), all the electoral votes from the enacting states would be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states and DC.

    The bill has passed 31 state legislative chambers in 21 states with 243 electoral votes. The bill has been enacted by 9 jurisdictions with 132 electoral votes - 49% of the 270 necessary to go into effect.

    NationalPopularVote.com
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    This isn't a "change to the electoral college system." This is... States deciding to exercise their right to apportion their electoral college delegates as they see fit...

    "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress..."

    ... Same as always.

    Now, if it was the case that the federal government wanted to barge in and tell the states how to apportion their delegates... Then we would need a Constitutional Amendment... Same as always.
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    Very correct assessment. i personally like the idea of states acting together as a single entity. if we are going to do it this way, why not just get rid of the EC altogether and go with the popular vote. it might be fun to see a president end up with a VP not of his/her choosing...
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    They try surpressing the vote in 12 that was a failure now they want to change the electoral college what next??? when will these stupid republicans stop trying to cheat to win why don't they try wining the honest way by changing their many failed and our dated policies
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    They can not do as you suggest because when they honestly explain their policies and belief they almost always lose. Atkins, Palin, Romney, etc. voters do not like repub policies. They onle win when they lie "read my lips" "compassionate conservative" are examples of the misleading slogans used by both bushes.
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    The Electoral College should be eliminated completely, It had a purpose originally but now it is just a waste of votes which causes the President to be determined by Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida and Michigan. Make it popular vote ONLY, that way we would have never had the Bush Era which obliterated our nation's credibility and economy which will take decades to recover.
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    Makes perfect sense. If you're getting your butt kicked under the rules that used to work for you try to change the rules. Of course they weren't whining, snivelling and sucking their thumbs like infants when their candidates were winning Presidential Elections.
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    Yet another republican attempted Power grab. Now let's see...They have tried to suppress the vote with all of those bogus "voter ID laws" that failed. They have tried to discourage voting in predominently Democratic districts, and that has failed. They have tried to reduce the number of days of early voting (mostly in Democratic districts)--and that has failed. They have tried to discourage voter registration drives (for Democrats)--and that failed. They have tried to hire republican operatives to "register voters"...but then throw out any registration forms that were not marked "republican" as the political party of choice...So now---they are trying to change the "electoral college rules" to try to again illegally tamper with or prevent a legitimate election outcome....This to will fail...Because,---Let's face it...Not many people still believe the republican "theories" anymore...And no one wants to see their policies put into place as law in our country....

    The best way they can start winning some elections is to listen to what the people want...and then run candidates who will follow-through on those demands---and STOP trying to screw around with these silly voter suppression tactics.
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    What a sorry collection of Morons...They lost so now we wante to change the rules in or own Favor????..Think of it America....Just think of it??????
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    I support abolishing the electoral college. The presidential election should be like every other election in the land: By popular vote. It hate how only in a few select states your vote counts, and thus the candidates are only is motivated to help you out and make you like them if you live in those states.

    I think popular vote would actually help the GOP. Anybody disagree?
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    Every post-election period, the losing party makes suggestions for changing the electoral college system. The GOP is just a little more shameless this time. They've already managed to gerrymander congressional districts in their favor. What won't they do to subvert the will of the majority?
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    This is exactly what Republicans had in mind for California a few years back, splitting the electoral votes which would still yield about 45% in that huge blue state, still a helluvalot of electoral votes. Turned out the money backing the plan was from Texas Republicans, who were in no way disposed to splitting Texas' electoral votes in the same way. This isn't reform of any sort but rather pure partisan scheming. Only fair way to implement such a plan is to do it in all 50 states, but then that would require a constitutional amendment. Bring it on.
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    If we are talking constitutional amnd why not move to a parlimentary system. It is far more repressentatives. Liberatians, conservatives, greens, socialist, would all share in getting seats along with dems and repubs.
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    @PoliticalSpice We are not talking aof amending the US constitution. The US constitution does not come into play on this issue at all.
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    @PoliticalSpice Two states already proportion their EC votes this way, Maine and.. ahhh...dang should have checked before posting...either Nebraska or Iowa, one of the corn places...

    any state can change how they proportion their share of Electoral College votes.
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    If the GOP even exists in 2016 this might become an issue. After last night's rebellion inside the Republican Conference that survival is questionable.
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    This sure would be a boon to the political campaign industry. think of all the new domographic consulting needed to select a campaign strategy for the diverse and disparate districts within each state.

    And people say they are sick of the amount of campaigning now....
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    @woodtick57

    In the past, the voters elected the state legislature and the legislature elected the senators to represent the state. I don't see why it was changed.
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    @Thunderchicken that was because the vast majority of voters were uneducated hicks. Not saying this has really changed, but people should be able to directly elect their reps.
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    @Thunderchicken Which changes? No state has yet ot put up any proposal to change their EC rules. If they do, I will look at them objectively as always.

    Again, as I stated previously, I favor states voting as a single entity. We have common goals and issues that bind us. If we are to change to this type of proportioning of the EC votes, it would be just as well to go to a popular vote and get rid of the EC altogether.
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    As a stanch Conservative who is tired of the Republicans floundering and grasping at straws, first off fire Reince Prebus and secondly, leave the Electoral College alone. Had Romney won, Republicans would have been touting how well the system works.
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    the dems here in ca sure was pushing illegal aliens in the census,not only that they stooped to harassing those who would not give the right amount of people they wanted to be in your house.wanting to argue over who live at your address,even after getting the mail in they still harassed for months.

    illegal aliens claiming other peoples addresses caused all sorts of problem.
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    something needs to be done, you need to eliminate the vote for people who have no source of income = YOU DONT WORK OR CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIETY, YOU DONT VOTE!!!!!!!!!!
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