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    It's sad that I would even need to agree to considering the death penalty for one of our own in a hazardous area and occupation, but, he did wrong. Big time.
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    yes he did wrong. he did major league wrong. But he was on his fourth tour. Hell people in Nam only did 2 tours if they didn't request more. I think life in prison without parole is sufficient. We bear some responsibility for 11 years in that hellhole of ignorance.
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    @jessejaymes I would agree with you and I would have even had the same opinion as you except for the report that he went back to base to reload and came out and did it again.
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    @justapirate I understand that. But war does strange things to people. I watched a captain shoot people in the back of the head in Nam because he was convinced that they spoke french and understood what he was saying but just wouldn't talk. He never went to trial. I don't excuse what our servicemen do wrong in war but I think that we can look inwardly and accept that we don't have to put them to death to effectively end their lives. I do not favor the death penalty for any enlisted man alive now or then. Life without parole is sufficient to my view.
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    @jessejaymes your so right this is an amazingly sad story the military should look at itself this man was clearly stretched beyond breaking point
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    maybe if we would spend more time minding our own business and taking care of our own people, none of this would have happened not to mention all the american lives that might have been saved.
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    @Denizen_Kate ehhh you got me off the top of my head I can't name a case number per say but they are out there that's a fact republicans have prevented any kind of real investigation into 9/11 or the billions in fraud in the Iraq and afghan wars republicans have voted no on any kind of investigation into fraud by contractors iv watched it live on cspan before with all dems but a few voting yes and all repubes voting no on opening investigations I'm sure it's public knowledge somewhere where I can get it I have no clue
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    I imagine the failure of the u.s. to mind it's business and send soldiers to afganistan was the cause. This never would have happened if the u.s. had gotten out after the mission was completed.
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    @PoliticalSpice Exactly my thoughts. If we had been in and out, got Bin Laden when we had the chance in Tora Bora none of this would have happened.
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    @PoliticalSpice The death penalty for those who were traitors to our country (Bush Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice) would be warranted if found guilty by a court of law. I don't agree with you on the soldier. If fatigue syndrome applies to anyone it has to apply to a four tour grunt.
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    @PoliticalSpice Insanity according to the law is very limited. Generally the standard is did they know right from wrong. That kid probably did. But I still think he was medically insane.
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    @jessejaymes medical terminology does not use any such word, insanity is a legal capacity, and in some jurisdictions there is more flexibility then just knowing right from wrong.
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    I'm afraid this is one of those situations that tarnishes the reputation and legacy of every active duty service member. The man committed mass murder, a war crime. The prosecution is right to seek the death penalty.
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    I have no problem with the death penalty BUT how is it we can try this guy so much quicker than the gitmo boys or the fort hood jerk? Shoud he grow a beard or something?
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    @marine1 an excellent point, and further evidence of the block headedness of that don't-try-terrorist-suspects-i n-regular-criminal-courts foolishness.
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    Agreed, Darsb. And his use of sleeping pills, drugs or what ever else he was using was of his own accord and volition....Murder is murder..I have no sympathy for him.
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    @marine1 Because we are better than they are. And being better requires that we be held to a higher standard,that we hold ourselves to that higher standard. That being said the gitmo boys should have been tried and either convicted or exonerated years ago. And Nidal Hasan should be rotting in the ground along with Bradley manning.
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    Good! He was killing children... Kids... Like the ones we have here... What an awful person. Better yet, tie him up, cover him in money, leave a note as to what he did, and drop him off in an insurgent camp...
    Justice
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    We have turned our servicemen into murders, plain and simple. In boot camp they use such chants as, "I'm' going to kill, kill, kill." It's bad enough we have no business being in the Middle East, because it's all about defeating israel's enemies which is none of our business. Yeah, israel, our alleged number one ally, who hasn't lost one drop of blood fighting along side the U.S. Some ally. Speaking of chants, in israel it's, "Onward Christian soldier."
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    Its friggen WAR, nasty things happen when solders fight and see their buddies get shot or loose arms and legs. How would YOU like to go to WAR, most likely NOT, give the guy a break.....
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    very sad something went wrong there needs something to happen a plea and glad im not in afganastan get our troops back to watch our borders
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    Dishonourable discharge, and at least 10 consecutive life imprisonment sentences. Let him rot in prison, and at least make sure he's thankful he's not being tried in Kabul.
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    Military Justice is a different entity entirely. It doesn't answer to civilian concerns, its ran by the UCMJ. You knowingly sign off to that when you enlist or accept a commission.
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    sure why not give him the death penalty... as long as you kill Colonel hasan from Fort Hood right along with him. you know our government is so far out of whack under this president it's not even funny... he's getting ready to ship F16's to the Muslim Brotherhood and thinks he's going to take guns away from Americans.... what is he intending to hand deliver America to the Muslim Brotherhood to?
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    @Denizen_Kate it's part of the aid package to Egypt, which last time I checked with being run by a dictator from the Muslim Brotherhood .
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    While he must pay for his crime the death penalty is obscene in this case. I don't know how much blame is his personally, and I know Vietnam Nam was a different war, I also have seen what happens to people who do multiple tours in a seemingly no win situation; they begin to do drugs to combat what they face emotionally on a daily basis. Once out of a war and "off" drugs then they really begin to suffer for what they did somewhere else. Maybe the death penalty would be a kindness, but instead I think he needs love, support & structure to face what he has done and deal with it!
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    The Army is quick to recommend the death penalty for this guy but what about the Islamic whacko that shot and killed his fellow soldiers at Ft. Hood. Hasan is a killer and he did it in our own facility, yet we can't even make the guy shave for his trial. Our goofball President won't even call the Ft. Hood Massacre an act of terrorism. Wake up people. Can't you see what we have as a President?
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    I don't give a damn whether he shaves or not. What bothers me is that this coward hasn't gone to trial while the other is. And the Major did his deed long before. Just BS.
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    That particular nut job is still awaiting trial, and the prosecution is recommending the death penalty for him, too. The president has absolutely nothing to do with any of this. Calling it an act of terror or a rampage murder isn't his call.
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    its war ppl he did what he was trained to do!but its ok for them to kill use hell they even put bombs on women and kid there is no right way when it comes to war
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    I'd like to know where he came up with Steroids, Alcohol, and sleep aids while on deployment. In Iraq Alcohol was forcefully banned, I certainly never had access to Steroids as part of my equipment. I'd kinda like to know a bit more. But I have to say I think he deserves this one.
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    I think he's damaged goods and deserves life in prison. I don't think he was fit for duty after his first tour over there. I'm with you, I'd like to know more - like how did he get cleared for a second, third, and fourth tour? Perhaps those processes deserve some scrutiny.
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    @Denizen_Kate yeah you got a point. I didn't realize he'd been through 4 deployments. he never should have had access to alcohol and steroids, I was kinda looking at it like someone in a car accident with a fatality. Then you take someone in a car accident with a fatality who was drunk it's kinda criminal from the start. Tragic loss of life though.
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    It ain't a freakin tea party. If the combatants aren't wearing uniforms , who's to blame ? Why send US soldiers over there to play guessing games with mooslem cowards hiding behind every woman or child ? Ooh, real warriors , ain't they. If you don't want Americans killing terrorists - it's simple bring them all home . Just let them all kill each other in the wasteland . Who gives a f--k about trying to teach them manners, you go over there & offer them herbal tea & crumpets & see how long your 'kommbya crap' works out for you.
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