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    “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”
    ― Winston Churchill
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    i can do that i less than ten seconds, by talking to any of your elected officials. why talk to an average voter, when you can talk to the average idiot they elected?
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    It seems at some point you actually spoke to Churchill. Study explains why nixon, reagan and W served two terms each, and why romney came so close, as well as why limbough, palin, coulter and bauchman are so admired by conservative "thinkers"
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    @Bleeding_Blue ....but, but, but...Obama bought the majority with his perceived giveaway programs and his pandering to certain groups. Ask some of them why they voted for Obama. Yes, really, ask them! Go ahead!
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    The average voter doesn't even know the constitution or their rights. They are ignorant for the most part, this includes people from both side of the aisle.
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    Not just the average voter, most repubs on this site. Many literally make up the constitution to match their ideology. One told me it didn't protect the right to vote...
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    Well don't put too much stock in this "game"...After all, yes it did criticize the American
    Electorate...But but----made no efforts to distinguish us versus any other country or people who also openly elect their leaders. Perhaps we are simply no different than anyone else on this planet...And, thus people are just "people"---If the sponsors of this study have a better way..Then they need to present it.
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    @Sonny

    I'm looking at it like reading the raw data on a survey. I'd like to know how they reached their conclusion.

    That's what I like about Quinnipiac polls. They almost always publish their raw data. I often draw a different conclusion than they publish but it's interesting to see how they got there.
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    @Thunderchicken I agree. It seems like they are looking at the behaviors of regular people, but somehow expecting the event of an "election" to fall outside of their "normal" day to day behaviors and activities...And, it also (by default) seems to suggest that somehow "Americans"--behave differently than other people on the planet in these circumstances..I too would like to know how or why they drew such conclusions.
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    @Sonny

    One of the things I find interesting (disturbing) is the reason's that people vote the ways that they do. My Mother-in-law for instance votes for the cutest guy. And she freely admits it.(Que the Twilight Zone music.) I have a buddy who votes straight a Democratic ticket but when pressed why will not discuss it. Even when we agree on a particular race, he never ventures an opinion.(But then this guy has his entire life's savings in a passbook account. I guess he just does what works for him.) I've come to the conclusion that there's just some things in this world you can't explain. But I still wonder about them.
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    We have two presidential elections under our collective belt that proves this to be true. The dumbing-down of America has reached its zenith...or nadir as the case may be... :-)
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    Once again...no distinctions were made between republican and democratic or even independent voters...So you are reading far more into this study than was actually uncovered...
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    @Sonny I'm not 'reading into' anything. The results of the last two elections are clear: Most Americans have no interest in simple economics anymore. "Free stuff" rules the day as this country has moved from one that makes to one that takes. Whether votes for Obumble were out of ignorance of the facts or a realization that he offers the most free stuff is open for debate. Let the 'rich' pay! I got my free ObumblePhone!
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    @Jeff_Woehrle I don't recall the study making any of your "observations"..But I did hear rush limbaush say that rubbish..I think you have found a way to "blend what rush thinks, into this study"...While that may be "creative" it only boils down to your & rush's opinion...Unless, of course you and he want to initiate your own study. Otherwise...you are indeed, reading stuff into the study that just doesn't exist...You know that old saying..."garbage in (rush limbaugh)...garbage out"....
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    @Jeff_Woehrle Also, Jeff...if you really want to try to "point to examples on the democratic side"...Please give us all an "example of why republicans voted for Romney out of ignorance"...You can't have it both ways...If you believe that ignorance prevails in our electorate---then it exits on both sides of the political coin. So if democrats want "free stuff" and that's irrational---Then what were the irrational reasons that republicans voted for romney?
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    @Sonny Fair enough, Sonny. If ignorance truly exists on both sides, then guess who won the latest battle of ignorance? The takers in society have been slowly catching up to the contributors in both numbers and voting influence. That tide has now turned. Romney was widely vilified for pointing out that 47 percent. In truth, he was spot on. And a greater number of those folks vote (at least in the last two elections) than the other 53.

    As a side note, I've never listened to Rush Limbaugh. The closest I've come is to comment on a comment attributed to him. If he has indeed said the things you accuse me of aping, then my opinion of Rush Limbaugh is hereby elevated. He sounds like a smart guy.
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    When politics come up in normal conversation, or people I talk to at work, most don't have a clue what the issues are, let alone how to solve them. All most of them know are what they may have heard in sound bites on TV or Radio news. I did an experiment at work just before the election, I asked everyone I could find who Representatives and Senator were in congress . 90% didn't have any idea. ;-[
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    @Denizen_Kate Yep, you pass with flying colors. I've read your comments for quite awhile now, I don't always agree, but your defiantly know whats going on and have interesting opinions. I value them. Unfortunately, you are not the norm.
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    @FollowTheMoney - Thank you. I wish I were the norm. If you knew my actual name, you could probably find that all three of these people know me, too. I'm a regular pain in the neck, something I highly recommend to every voter.
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    @Denizen_Kate Heh heh heh...me too. I e-mail and call Rand Paul and Ed Whitfield all the time. I feel it's my duty to tell them what I think about every single issue that comes up. As with every voter. My wife just rolls her eyes at me and says it doesn't matter what I think, that they don't care what I think. I tell her that I don't care if they care or not, I will be heard. BTW I think they do care what we think, perhaps not as much as they should, but they do none the less.
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    Allocator A has provided 8% unemployment and over $1 Trillion annual deficit in the previous 16 rounds. The experienced average is 6% unemployment and $250 Billion annual deficit. Do you continue with Allocator A or change to an unknown Allocator B? According to this report, Allocator A should have won 62% of the participants. Must be a flawed report.
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    This is so damn true Americans are so stupid it's not even funny just like those idiots who stoke pile guns bc they fear the gov is going to take them away and then turn around and want the US to have the biggest military In the world that can easily crush anything in its path do they really think their local militas are even going to stand a limp diccs chance in fighting back the full forces of the US gov its just stupid i tell uou America is busting out the seems with Alex jones watching idiots there's no hope for us
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    Isn't that a pessimistic view? Inaccurate, IMO. Most of us who frequent this site do so because we are interested and concerned, which is more than you can say for the majority of American voters, apparently. Interest often promotes learning, sometimes from each other. There are a few glaring exceptions, of course ... every tree has it's low-hanging fruit.
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    Topix is how I found this site AND Topix users is why I no longer frequent that site. Felt what little IQ points I had being sucked out of my body reading some of that stuff.
    Has you or anyone seen some of the answers people give for what should be common knowledge? Makes me happy it's the brain stem for automatic body functions, because many people would just fall over dead otherwise (and who wants to clean up all those bodies)
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    @stepped_in_it ...I agree. I rarely go on Topix anymore...the moderators here wouldn't allow such name calling and vitriol as is seen on Topix. Much more civilized!:) And I've learned a lot just reading these posts...right or now, it keeps me thinking. And that's a good thing since maybe it will keep Alzheimer's at bay!
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    What's funny is the Fox News and Rush Limbaugh fans will think it's accurate because they think they are informed except that they are always the least informed in every study ever done. Even people that do not watch the news know more and 2 comedy shows "The Daily Show" and "The Colbert Report" obliterate them in informing their audience. Sensationalism "News" and commentary shows have made 99% of these Fox News viewers into propaganda swilling ignorant fools. They are always there to yell a talking point but when challenged they cannot defend their statement because all they know is "ACORN", "Obama Cell Phone", "Fast and Furious", "Anchor Babies" and "Obamacare is government takeover of healthcare" or "Obamacare is welfare for blacks and illegal Mexicans".
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    When people talk about getting "Obama money", and they think that money is coming out of his pocket , and are not smart enough to know that the other 1/2 of the country is paying for it , that should tell us everything we need to know !
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