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    Getting on the side of true freedom is the only way republicans stand a chance. They still have a legitimate small govt argument to make though, that would likely conflict a little with the democratic parties ideas on the subject. Why is govt in the marriage business at all?
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    Because there are laws diffentiating blood relatives and everybody else. Things like death benefits, children, hospital visits, etc... all have legal differences when talking about someone who is related to you by blood and someone who is not. 'Marriage' is a legal contract to say that someone who is not related to you becomes first in line over people that you are blood related to. That is why govt is in the marriage business, whether or not two people are married means a lot when talking about the law.
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    Who else would regulate a legal, binding contract? marriage has been the purview of the state since its inception as a social construct.
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    @AceLuby Excellent way of explaining marriage. I believe marriage is between two adults who so choose to make their union legal and binding. Period.
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    @AceLuby we shouldn't be subsidizing certain things for people just because they choose to get married. There should be no state sponsored incentive or disincentive to get married. If someone wants to determine how to split assets in the event of a divorce, they should have a pre-nup. Other than that just let people be.
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    @Capt_Morgan02

    And let teh gov't tax the wealtha nd property you helpedd create when your partner dies? A pre-nup won't stop that.
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    As the Fiscal Cliffmas mess clearly shows, "accommodate and deal with reality" is not a quality of the Republican Party at the moment.
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    At least Newt recognizes the hypocrisy of so many Republicans being in the closet practicing homosexuality and condemning it in others at the same time. He's calling for some consistency among Republicans. He wants them to preach what they practice.
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    Now if Newt could only recognize his own hypocrisy where marriage is concerned. In 1980 Gingrich served his wife of 18 years with divorce papers as she lay in a hospital undergoing chemotherapy treatments because ,according to his own campaign treasurer,"she's not young enough or pretty enough to be the wife of the president. Besides,she has cancer." While leading the charge against Clinton and his infidelities,Gingrich himself was involved in an affair of his own with a much younger staffer. Yet unlike the Clintons,still known more for the affairs than for working to preserve their marriage, Newt chose to divorce and remarry again. Talk about consistency. Practice what you preach? Gingrich changes religious affiliations as easily as wives. His Lutheran beliefs evolved into Southern Baptist which oddly paralleled his budding political career in Georgia. In '09,"struck by the happiness and peacefulness" exuded by the Pope,he converted to Roman Catholicism. Happily this epiphany cleared the way for his marriage to wife #3,Callista. Serendipity or just more of the same consistency Gingrich has shown throughout his public life?
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    @rkinsawjoe The man is a hypocrite. I men him one day and we talked some. Where did this man who opposes spending on federal projects happen to meet, sitting in an amtrak station, waiting to take a train he opposed funding for. He did have his pretty aid with him, i might add. At the time he was nowhere in the polls, so i refrained from kicking him while he was down...
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    @PoliticalSpice
    Yup, he still believes he has the best answers and can do or say anything he wants and still be accepted by the public, no matter how many times he is rejected...just a matter, in his mind, of not yet getting the people to understand he is the best.

    "Open Marriage" anyone?
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    @PoliticalSpice
    >>>maybe if obama built a colony on the moon repubs would support him?<<<

    Only if it had orphanages, and kids could be put to work sweeping their school.
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    I do agree that marriage in a church and sanctioned by God is not the same as a paper license given by the state & therefore doesn't hold the same weight.
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    Yes the church marriage means the same as a few people dancing around a fire with sticks holding their own ceremony...legally that is.
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    "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." US Constitution, 14th Amendment, Section 1
    Ergo, it is inevitable.
  • #106
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    Open to more then just women, apparently. And that other thread, woven of two kinds of fibers, and you thought newt, palin and bauchman were sacrey!
  • #126
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    I wish I could tell Newt to his face. He is a fake conservative and he is a disgrace to the Catholic church for not holding firm to church teaching and being salt and light on this issue. I wonder if the pope will agree for conservatives to cave on this? Newt I am glad you lost the primary!
  • #124
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    Although I, as a registered Republican, fully support marriage equality and hope Newt is correct, I think it will take longer for the GOP's evangelical base to come around .
  • #123
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    We should! I'd support their civil right and freedom to marry as much as I'd defend my own rights to bare arms and speek my mind and all the crap in it! Even when they get flamboyantly snarky. It's the right thing to do!
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  • #107
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    Old Newt is seeing the writing on the wall and knows all to well that Republicans even want to remain electable they need to drop the whole opposing gay marriage/LGBT rights.

    Social conservatives are basically Neanderthals who will die out in 15-20 years and replaced with young people who are socially tolerant.
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    Im hoping gay marriage happens soon. I am Ware what has been said of rome and past civilizations adopting this practice. I have no personal involement with this issue. I would l love to see how it affects society .
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    I'm pretty libertairaian in this respect. I think the best option for the GOP would be to advocate taking government out of marriage...it's not endorsing homosexuals, nor condemning them. And I doubt it would lose many voters, and could gain quite a few.
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