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    He disgraced the Corps and gave our enemy more ammo for jihad. Service members are held to a MUCH higher standard than your typical guns-n-bible redneck. He knew when he joined the Corps that this type of revolting behavior would not be tolerated. He gambled and lost. Screw him.
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    Since he was put on record doing the act and the record went public, the Marine Corps had to punish him or else be seen as tacitly approving of his actions.
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    He showed poor judgement, violated the UCMJ, and was appropriately punished for it. Now he moves on with his career.

    These aren't kids on a weekend hunting trip, they are professional solders representing the greatest military force & country on earth, their actions show the world who we are as a country. His bad behavior caused an international incident, the punishment was appropriate for what he did.
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    You can kill or maim people as you desire but please don't pee on them. What this Marine is guilty of is not showing any class, simple as that. We used to collect ears in the old days but I guess wouldn't be acceptable now, would it? Next we'll be writing letters of apology to their family members and setting up makeshift memorials with teddy bears and all right there on the front lines. The one thing to remember is the people who condemn this act wouldn't get caught anywhere near a combat zone and have absolutely no idea what mental state these guys are in.
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    And innocent women and children were killed in Nam also. Is that OK today? What about the women and girls that were raped? Is that OK today?
    You collecting trophies from your kills show that you were a dick individual then and if you still think that behavior is acceptable then you still are a sick individual.
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    @mtkopf I was in the Marines '69 to '75 and didn't kill anyone myself, but some of the people I was stationed with did and brought back what you refer to as trophies. My job was working on planes to bring them back stateside. I have three cousins who watched their parents killed in front of them by the Khmer Rouge so I do know what you are talking about. My philosophy on war is to stay out or nuke the other country off the planet and nothing in between. There have been way too many people killed fighting for "our freedom" when our freedom has never been at stake. If you feel strongly enough to kill people then they are no better than the trash you throw out on garbage day and have no rights and deserve no respect and this peeing on their carcasses should have not been an issue. Then again... if people you elect to office make this decision to kill people for no legitimate reason, what does that make them? And you?
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    @Your_Name_Here well seeing as I did not vote for Bush either time and he got us into not one but two needless wars it doesn't
    makee anything.
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    @mtkopf Sorry, it was "our government" that got us into the wars. As long as "our government" has us blaming each other nobody will blame them.
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    @PoliticalSpice - hate to say it but it's war. War isn't pretty, war isn't humane, and war doesn't care whose side your on. So our soldiers are held accountable in an inhumane environment to act humane? And if not be jailed and fined. This is why I will never serve for the US military. It's not there to protect citizens and individuals it's there to protect our government, and that's why. I don't think our soldiers should be pissing on dead Taliban, but if they were dragging your dead body through a town the day before you better.be damn right im gonna Piss on every single one of them from that day forward. Right in mouth.lol
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    @kirbstomp1 well as i said in another thread, if i get the chance i'll pee on bushes grave, and i'd expect to get a fine, and it would be worth it. Considering the war crimes going on against the living , i think peeing on a dead body, while disrespectful is stupid, but not something that desrves more then a fine. If anything its the parents of americans killed in retaliation for this that should be...pissed off.
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  • #43
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    We should expect more from our soldiers than we see from our enemy. If we're just going to do what they do, why are we there at all?
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    @AceLuby - well we don't dismember them while alive, or scalp them, or drag their bodies through our Towns, or show them off to all our buddies. Take your happy ass over there and go fight a modern war. Im sure once you see how those savages act you might piss on 1, 2, or 3 of them. They are literally animals and when they kill one of us it's like they've killed a God, we just Piss on them and move on to the next one. The only reason they are savages is because their religion makes them that way.
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    @kirbstomp1 Like I said, we should not be sinking to their level and if we are, why are we there?
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    @kirbstomp1 Also, how is peeing on your enemy not acting like a savage? Savages invading another country to save other savages from being savages. The irony is almost too much.
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    @AceLuby - not quite to their level, but I look at it like this. If you got killed over there and they were dragging your body through a town be behind a horse and buggy screaming insanities and you were in my platoon, or squad, I would Piss on all of them. People get caught up in the moment and when you lose a soldier your close to it's like losing family. You don't think rationally, you think revenge. Idk why were there. Get our boys out of their.
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    well, the act was "somewhat" bad, but, the stupidity of filming it and letting it hit the net is the real crime. Does everybody understand that filming your "act" and putting it on the net is very, very stupid? From what I keep seeing, I's say nope.
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    Peeing on a dead body is a disgrace.
    Remember, we are there under false presences, some of those people aren't fighting just to kill Americans, it's to keep the invading power (us) from taking over their home.
    This would be similar to England peeing on our dead soldiers way back he
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    Urinating on dead Taliban, that's nothing compared to what those terrorist scumbags do to US Troops. Those Leathernecks shouldn't have been punished the way they were. Heck, they're more humane than I am, I wouldn't urinate on them if they were on fire.
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    @woodtick57 And in my opinion the only reason they were even charged to begin with was because it was all caught on tape.
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    @MarkJM So they were punished because they got caught? That is usually how it works.

    or they got caught cuz they were incredibly stupid? That too is usually how it works.
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    @woodtick57 That's a fair response. My old CO (Commanding Officer) always told me there are two types of people in this world: Those who get caught and those who don't.
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    Sgt. Chamblin is a United States Marine Non-Commissioned Officer. That's a big title he's damn lucky to still hold.

    The Corps of Marines hold themselves to a higher standard than “ordinary soldiers” and Non-Commissioned Officers are considered the heart of the Corps.

    The day you graduate from “Boot Camp” is the day you are awarded the title of Marine, one you will hold for the rest of your life unless you have been dishonorably discharged from the Corps. The loss of the title is often the worst punishment you can inflict as the ex-marine is no longer a part of the family he worked so hard to join.

    Sgt. Chamblin's rank put him in a position of authority and responsibility. His actions set an example beneath the standards of the Corps. He was charged with failing to properly supervise junior marines, failing to to report misconduct along with other infractions not directly related to the video.

    It's really easy to sit at home and pretend to be Billy Badass talking about how you would take care of enemy combatants. Sitting at home is the best way to fight a war, you can hit reset every time you're killed. Marines in Afghanistan don't have a reset button for when they mess up and get killed or when their plan doesn't work out.

    Defiling enemy corpses is ALWAYS a bad idea. He's your enemy while he's fighting against you, but once he's dead the threat is removed. Marines are vicious enemies, your worst nightmare if you've created a situation causing them to be called in. At the same time, U.S. Marines are a godsend if you're a friend in need of help. The job is to defend people who can't defend themselves. An KIA EC can't defend himself from desecration.

    Pictures of Marines urinating on corpses provide propagandists of the other side with ammunition to prove to the undecided population that they aren't respected by the Americans, a great way to recruit terrorists. Millions of dollars and thousands of hours are spent making friends with the locals; an opportunity that was “pissed away” by Chamblin's foolishness.

    Marines hold themselves to a high standard of discipline; desecration is the act of a mob not a disciplined Corps. Sgt. Chamblin in his role of leader was expected to set an example of discipline and plead guilty to "dereliction of duty" for failing to supervise junior marines and wrongfully urinating on a deceased enemy combatant.

    I think he's lucky.... were I on that Court Martial Board, he would be ex-marine Chamblin. As it stands, Sgt. Chamblin has an opportunity to prove himself worthy the title, it's a small window but the Corps is being charitable. I hope he succeeds in proving them right about him.

    My guess is neither Rick Perry nor Dana Loesch have ever lived where honor is more than just a word...“Kids” Mr. Perry.... the people in congress might be “Kids”, they certainly act the role but the first time someone actually shoots at you, you're never a kid again.“Drop trou” Dana? Yours would be filled at the crack of the first shot flying over your head.... Big Talk, little thought. I hope neither of them ever experiences what they appear to take so lightly as I don't think they could take it.
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    Wow. Well stated, Sharpshooter. You and I may disagree on most things political, but there is absolutely nothing in error in this statement. Semper fi, and thank you.
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    @PolitixMary Mary.... the man is a Marine.... with a capital "M" as it is a title that is EARNED.

    He is not in the army, he serves in the Marine Corps, that's not a mistake any Marine would take lightly.

    His actions were reprehensible as I will explain in another post, but once earned... he holds the title "Marine."
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    Here,Here! My posts don't seem to be showing for some reason but I had a reply very much like your own. The Marines are an all volunteer force because they are held to much higher standards of personal behavior and professionalism than the other services. Not one Marine in the history of the Corps would question whether this act was wrong or punishable. The affront to the Corps alone is worthy of a dishonorable discharge. Semper Fi!
  • #10
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    Eh, it's something that I would be capable of even if I knew I was gonna catch a little hell over it. Some things just make ya feel better.
  • #7
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    Slap on the wrist then you wonder why ppl act like animals....Then you add insult to injury by not doing time in the slammer how Pathetic!
  • #84
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    So, it's okay if our soldiers behave as crude and uncivilized as our enemies? Shouldn't we be better than that? I'm glad his sentence was light, but I disagree that he shouldn't have been charged with conduct unbecoming.
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    @Denizen_Kate well we are just going to disagree on this 1 . we don't know the particulars behind that story. those Taliban may have been responsible for killing that man's best friend... I think he should have been charged for stupidity for letting that picture be taken though... that's something the Navy man might do..
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  • #123
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    Respect and honor of the dead are only for the living.

    On the other hand, how would you like your corpse to be urinated on?
  • #115
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    This is bull!

    If we in this country were doing our job he wouldn’t be there in the first place…

    Okay, so he can kill them but taking a leak on them is a problem?
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  • #111
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    My view is that he should get a good talking to, but not much else. After all, the bastard
    wanted to kill him and his fellow marines. War is hell, and people express their
    anxiety in many ways. The marines are our heroes, and a hiccup here and there should not
    create this kind of attention.
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