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    It is my understasnding that doctors must report any person suffering form a gunshot wound. What other medical need is there to collect information on gun ownership? If there needs to be some study about health effects related to the inhalation of exhausted gases from bullets then there should be plenty of data available from the military.
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    Are doctors aware of Kennesaw, Georgia. The safest town in America. Virtually NO CRIME. Why you may ask? Because in the 80's they passed a law that states that you cannot live in Kennesaw unless you own a gun and ammo if you are 21 years of age. They armed the entire town. And their crime went away. Why, because criminals try to not mess with armed people. They know the dangers of the armed person. They live in the safest city in the country. Google the statistics and learn for yourself.
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    @Antiecm A great coup for gun manufacturers but a direct violation of a U.S. citizen's right to make purchases as he sees fit. You weep crocodile tears about people being "forced" to have health insurance but rejoice when these folks are forced to own guns? Hypocrisy abounds. As for their crime free status? Kennesaw: Population 30,000. There is absolutely no way you can compare a podunk city of that size to a true metropolis. Apples and oranges.
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    @Zazziness If you go in a five star restaurant, you do not smoke, its the law. If you want to drive a car, you get a license, its the law. I could go one and on, as we all live withing rules. You can obtain the safety goal in different ways. You can make more gun laws, like DC where they have more gun laws on record by 3 times than anywhere else in the country. They also have the highest crime rate in the country. In Kennesaw you do not have to buy a gun, you can move. But for the enjoyment of those that are not afraid, that are willing to obey the laws, that realize that a gun is nothing but a tool for survival. Well the proof is indeed in the pudding, they have eliminated all crime.
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    @Antiecm There are other towns in this country that also require gun ownership to live there, but I cannot think of the names at this time.
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    @Antiecm They have not "eliminated all crime." I think you need to read up on your own example. I did.
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    Don't drink the kool aid. Socialist powers at be want your guns, your money, property, and life! When you are regulated and taxed to death then you will have the standards of East Germany in the 1970's, along with those other suppressed countries. We are not that far from it boys and girls. Health care and education shoved down your throat, higher taxes every year, regulations on food, gas, electricity, travel, etc. Money being shifted to foreign Muslim countries at the whim of our executive dictator. Corruption at every government level. Need I go further? It's not that far off till our constitution will be nothing more than an old relic with no meaning whatsoever.
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    Well I can tell from your post that you have successfully resisted having any education shoved down your throat. Taxes are at the lowest they've been in nearly 80 years. No one has taken away a single gun of yours. We have an elected President not an executive dictator. Have you seen a doctor about these fantasies?
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    @PNWest I was just saying these things are in the works. taxes are not lower there are just more of them. Personal property, state, income, federal, school, occupational, alcohol, vehicle, gas, fees and licenses out the ying yang. Tell me that you aern't taxed! And when a president refuses to work with representatives of the people that is when he becomes a self imposed dictator.
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    No. A doctor is there to help with personal health not to quiz you about your gun ownership. Unless you are suffering from lead poisoning and he suspects it may be because you're chewing on bullets or something.
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    As a matter of point, my doctor asked my wife if we had guns in our house. She said to discuss that with me. I told him to his face to mind his own business. What I have i my house is absolutely none of his business. I also advised any further attempts to learn anything that is not directly connected with whatever doctoring he is doing will result in immediate and concise action that I am certain he will not be happy about.
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    I would say no, with maybe the exception of someone seeing a psychiatrist for PTSD, bi-polarism, or other
    mental health conditions that could put the public at risk, and certainly schizophrenics should never have access
    to a gun.
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    @mimi57 which comes first the mental illness or the gun possession. Hindsight has thru far been 20:20 in " after the fact" diagnosis. Shocking isn't it that Psycho's buy guns because state governments are unwilling to provide fed's with background check files and after they kill we say "he was crazy"
    Great logic Mimi
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    Should a car dealership collect info on prescription drugs? More people die every year from prescription drugs than from guns.
    What about listing your name and address in a news paper if you get prescription drugs? You know, same excuse they used for gun owners names publicized, people might not want their kids going to a home with guns laying around, their could be drugs laying around too! Maybe we need to ban prescription drugs!!
    Or Maybe...
    We should blame the person that used these objects in ways they werent intended instead!
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    Try have the Doctors forcing women to say how many abortions they have had and watch the Liberals scream about freedoms. Liberals are such hypocrites! As long as it is the freedoms of gun owners under attack the Liberals say nothing but agree with Government intrusion in our rights.
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    My hero!!!! Oh god, please don't send me an email like 1adam2. My admiration is purely of your verbal ability/advantage. You manage to say soo much w/so few words. Kudos.
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    yeah sure why not? Let them crap in one hand and collect gun data in the other. Which one will fill up first? Are they going to make it a crime to lie to the doctor? What about Doctor/patient confidentiality? Are they going to turn Doctors into some kind of junior Gestapo trained to notice any evidence of lying? Let them collect all they want. Anybody with any sense will lie anyway.
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    "There are 7,000 deaths and 1.5 million adverse drug events due to medication errors each year. Two million hospital patients acquire infections each year, with 90,000 dying from them. There are 1,500 incidents of surgical tools left in patients each year. Medical errors, professional negligence and sub-standard care are a tragedy affecting millions of people." I think gun owners should be collecting data on doctors.
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    LOL...It's good to look at all their credentials and med certificates, diplomas, and
    check with the AMA first. My doctor was wonderful, he just died in October of
    esophogeal and stomach, he was only 48, so very sad.
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    @mimi57 I just don't understand what doctors have to do with gun ownership beside the fact many of them can afford to go big game hunting. If the reference is to so-called "mental health professionals" I have seen way to many of those people let psychos out the door without a second thought.
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    @Your_Name_Here I left out cancer in my post...Duh! Our mental health system is broken and when you work in it, you see how really terrible it is. Yep, they do let
    them walk out the door, they advise them to get counseling and give them a script. They ask one question; "Are you a danger to yourself or others?" If they say yes... they'll talk them out of it, since most of the time the real concern is the
    hospital not getting paid...
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    @WilliamWallace I know...pretty scary. The worlds nuts, I'm convinced. The Republicans are the only sane ones left...what to do?
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    I don't care that it threatens gun rights it's just inappropriate from the get go. We have enough trouble with our healthcare system now to divert our doctors attention elsewhere. If they want the guns they should load up and come get 'em.
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    We are on track to see gun-related deaths outnumber death from automobile accidents in the next 24 months or so. More toddlers are killed each year by firearms than police officers from the same cause. About 55,000 of us are shot each year.

    And this isn't a public health issue?
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    No, unless gunpowder causes cancer it is not public health. You are mistaking injuries as health problems, nobody ever caught a case of bullets due to poor health practices, nor could a doctor prevent gun violence with medical treatment. It is a serious social problem, not anything any doctor can do about it until they arrive in the ER.It is no more of a health issue than the speed you drive your car, has your doctor talked to you about driving safely or asked what type of car you own?. It is public safety issue not a health issue.
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    @crusader You make a number of claims that cannot be shown to be true - because funding for research into the subject has been systematically throttled by the NRA for decades.
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    @DARSB That makes absolutely no sense. What part is not true? That guns are safety issue not a health issue? If they were a health issue you could get medication to take to protect against them. I think responsible gun ownership should be taught and possibly enforced but that the job of any doctor, at least not a medical doctor. Parents have baby gates cabinet locks and many other things to keep kids safe, but a safe for their guns should be used as well.
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    @crusader "That makes absolutely no sense. What part is not true?"

    My point is that it's very difficult to tell because systematic research has not been done - and it should be. When a legal commercial product is directly linked to the injury or death of 60,000 or so people annually it demands scientific investigation. The NRA has obstructed research for decades. That may serve their interests quite well but, as in the case of tobacco companies, the corporate interests are often at odds with the interests of public health.
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    no way. the government is tracking us enough as it is. if they can't get who is a threat and who isn't with the way they are already in our lives...then something is seriously wrong....
    if anyone was paying any attention there is always indicators before something like this happens. it takes people having guts enough to stand up and be accountable for their brothers.
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    Well said. They can't take your guns if they don't know you have them. What other reason would they want to know?
  • #152
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    The question was "should DOCTORS" collect info... Doctors are not the gov't. Doctors are supposed to keep up with trends on causes of death so they can learn more about trying to save lives. Should doctors ignore mortality trends? I think not....

    And doctors can share their statistical findings with the gov't without also sharing their list of patients' names and addresses and whether they own a gun or not.
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    What about if the doctor has his own arsenal in his office? Is there a law against that?? Are we really going to continue on and on with knee jerk reactions to Newtown, CT?
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    Fortunately, my personal physician, who also happens to be the county coroner; is a life member of the NRA and an avid hunter.
  • #161
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    Doctors have no more business collecting info on gun owners than does the NRA lobbying for provisions in a health bill. It would be nice if our politicians would occasionally tel lobbyist where to get off rather than accepting whatever bribery they have on offer that day.
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