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    I get it... since hunting is done mostly by older white (evil) men... it's something that should be done away with.. another words when we confiscate all their guns it won't matter , since its just white men hunting anyway.

    by contrast, the same group is now conducting a study that will show gang membership is mostly younger black and Latino men who use their guns for their own survival and the survival of their families... so we better leave them alone...

    .....now if we can only find a way to fund these studies through a public service grant using specifically tax money that has been extracted from white men it would be a perfect ending to a perfect story.
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    I love it. You are so right. They have their agenda and it is gun control so now they will use every opportunity to propagandize. The tv shows all of a sudden, will be filled with story lines to sway and motivate the uninformed. "news" stories, polls, rhetorical questions will all be implemented to get the end result that left progressives want , which is, an unarmed populace.
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    @Mia exactly. and you know you can almost see the moronic daytime shows like Maury Povich or doctor Phil suddenly change from incest to gun control to captivate the low information public.... and you know they'll be watching ... they got another extension for unemployment
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    Of course the problem with confiscating a red necks guns is first finding them and second hoping he isn't going out to the shed to cobble together a double barrel shotgun from a couple of pipes and scrap metal. I know boys when I was growing up who made cross bows from truck leaf springs and a few other parts and used them to hunt deer and other things in and out of season. Money was tight and meat is meat when you are hungry.

    The funny thing is that many of those pushing for gun control would still be puzzled that massacares happen and those doing them just switched to other weapons like pipe bombs. I can see their version of gun control working about as well as prohibition if not worse. You can sneek large quanities of drugs and people across the boarder then why not a large quanity of guns and ammo. Or somethig even smaller like precussion caps. Which to make shells at home.
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    @Tina You are so right. I have a home in urban America and another in the country. The good ole boys can make anything. If it comes down to it (confiscating weapons) I will be standing with the red necks. There is no way anyone is gonna get their guns without a fight. Talk about an armed malitia. They will be blocking access into townships with truck loads of heavily armed men. They have heavy eqiuipment, and the means to reload their own ammo.
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    Exactly. I remember growing up and many of my friends all of their family hunted including the women. I spent many hours hanging out with friends processing deer. I know of at least 3 families that everyone hunted, everyone butchered the deer, and they never bought meat from the store except for a rare meal of chicken. Also these families were poor. We are talking less than 50k per year and a family of 5. They had a small amount of land and they hunted it. They also has a garden for veggies.
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    Here's an Interesting slant on hunters - The world's largest army... America 's hunters! I had never thought about this...
    Some enterprising individual added up the deer license sales in just a handful of states and arrived at a striking conclusion:

    There were over 600,000 hunters this season in the state of Wisconsin .. Over the last several months, Wisconsin's hunters became the eighth largest army in the world.

    More men under arms than in Iran .

    More than France and Germany combined.

    These men deployed to the woods of a single American state, Wisconsin , to hunt with firearms, and no one was killed.

    That number pales in comparison to the 750,000 who hunted the woods of Pennsylvania and Michigan's 700,000 hunters, all of whom have now returned home safely. Toss in a quarter million hunters in West Virginia and it literally establishes the fact that the hunters of those four states alone would comprise the largest army in the world. And then add in the total number of hunters in the other 46 states. It's millions more.

    The point?

    America will forever be safe from foreign invasion with that kind of home-grown firepower.

    Hunting... it's not just a way to fill the freezer. It's a matter of national security.That's why all enemies, foreign and domestic, want to see us disarmed.

    Overall it's true, so if we disregard some assumptions that hunters don't possess the same skills as soldiers, the question would still remain... What army of 2 million would want to face 30, 40, 50 million armed citizens???

    Consider ...On a smaller scale, and with some outside help with weaponry, the 'rag-tag' Mujahideen defeated the soviet army in Afghanistan in spite of all their firepower and aircraft.

    Interesting.....
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    Oh the Chinese know so did the Soviets the first place they went was to the gun registries of overrun territories. They hated american record Keeping. Scattered to hades and gone.
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    The reason that I don't hunt anymore is because there are too many hunters concentrated in too small areas with too little shooting discipline.
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    Surprised....no! Older = more time on their hands. Male = we kill it and drag it back to the cave. Good living = money to blow.
    What I'm trying to figure out is this article "picking" on older (age discrimination), Male (sex discrimination) or well to do (liberal discrimination....lol). Oh well, I think I'll grab my guns and go shoot something and drag it back to the man cave!
    Happy New Year
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    I just knew that somehow this was going to be my fault. I'm old, white, earn more than the national median and own guns. But I don't hunt. I don't fish. I'm a concrete cowboy who likes to target shoot and has guns for home protection. I did blow up a horny toad with a black cat firecracker back in the 1950's when we didn't know any better. I guess that's still on my record.
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    Its a good thing they're there too for population control. Deer were way overpopulated at a local park, they looked more likebabys than full grown because of too many deer not enough food so they had to thin them out. There is also a huge wild pig problem about to wake people up about the NEED for hunters.
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    While I have to agree the deer population must be kept down by hunters, it's not a bragging point. The only reason that's so is because we wiped out their natural predators.
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    Living in the south no I am not surprised. I think hunting is a valuable skill that should be taught to the young. We need to understand where our food comes from. Some of my friends children don't know that the chicken on their plate and the chicken they only see in books or TV are the same thing.
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    I'm surprised at the older and good living bit. Most hunters I know started with their fathers and have taught their sons. IOW they start young.(I remember my cousin getting his first over & under combo gun. We were probably about ten.) Also most hunters I know grew up hunting and hunted before their salary became what it is.(At ten, who had a salary? We did odd jobs and depended on our allowance for ammo money.)
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    This surprises me also. My youngest child has many young men who are friends that go hunting with their fathers. I would hardly call any of them well to do.
    I guess it depends on what you call well-to-do.
    My son-in-law is a carpenter (non-union) and he shares his kill with family members.
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    Ya know. I just wonder where they took their polls, Urban America or Rural America. I'm guessing only in the Urban areas. If you are in a rural area during hunting season, you will see nearly every household has hunters.
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    Exactly, heck here in Michigan the first day of firearm deer season in November is a day off from school now because attendance was always so low.
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    @Real4WheelDrv Oh my!! School children with guns! Yea here in rural Missouri as well. In the mornings the young boys are out hunting with their Dads and Grandpas. Most moms and daughters are holding down the fort, waiting for their turn to go out.
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    I was wondering that too. I know a lot of people in Michigan who don't even register their guns. One makes his own guns as a hobby, and another just uses his to shoot deer that raid his vegetable garden and for food of course. Then I know another guy that inherited his guns from his father. Only one of three of my guns are registered.
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    @ProCCW Yeah, I'd love to go just once, even just to say I did something that's a tradition. Even Grandma hunts occasionally with her crossbow.
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    There's a huge mural painted on the side of a barn not far from here showing a father/son hunting scene. The caption reads " Take your son hunting today, instead of hunting your son tomorrow." As for deer hunting being like shooting a cow,that may well be if you're poaching at night ,baiting the deer or otherwise cheating but there is a reason it's called hunting and not killing or finding. And that's that these creatures are far from hapless victims with no defenses. They are intelligent creatures with keen senses and an awareness of their surroundings that make them far more elusive than some apparently think. Lastly, a quick death by a hunters bullet is far preferable to a slow painful one of starvation or disease which is what would thin the population if not for the organized hunting which pays for much of the management of wildlife populations
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    I hunt with two Mexicans and an Asian...typical though just another topic posted by the moderators to continue the gun/anti gun debate here. Way to go Politix
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    I know a lot females from where I live who are avid deer hunters and I met some who are avid Wild Boar Hunters. I hunt deer, ducks, and avid fisherman. I am NOT a Rich person either.
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    Sounds about right to me. Hunters are generally people that tend to want to take care of them selves. They don't want nor do they need others to care for them. Now look up Farmers and Builders. I think you'll find a common thread.
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    Nice, another federal agency, which obviously is useless since all states have their versions at the state level where it should be. So this is why we have an agency like this? So they can keep tabs on white people, and what they are doing and how much money they make? What does income have to do with fish and game? This agency would be a good place to start cutting the federal monster.
  • #82
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    Good Heavens you people are paranoid!
    This was just a descriptive article using statistics, and no one was accused of anything. Take a deep breath and calm down.
    It stands to reason that middle aged white guys are hunters, they can afford the stuff and the time off.
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    Yes...because they must be polling too many Northeastern folks and too many Californians. The rest of the country is, in my opinion, hunting at the same or higher rates. It's funny that this statistical data comes out while gun control is the favorite issue for many. I would be interested in seeing a breakdown of these statistics by state.
    It is a fact that wine parties and nuvo cuisine are not especially popular with hunters...but they do favor bar-b-que and beer....and wild game cuisine. So I would not expect the huge population centers to favor hunting....unless it is for a new resturant, or a new bar, or a new hip-hop concert.
  • #70
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    No there no "need" for hunting now days people these days want to watch tv instead of getting up at the crack of dawn going into the middle of the woods and waiting all day hoping to see game to shoot
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    The stats are a little surprising I guess. Just for discussion overpopulation does hurt the animals. Also many states have programs for hunters to donate their kill to the needy. Kentucky and Texas are 2 that I know of off the top of my head. The animal is professionally prepared and packaged according to, I suppose, USDA standards.

    I would also add that the typical hunter is probably conservative; didn’t see it in the article. It is more of a masculine pastime, although they are women hunters. But liberal/progressive men are very feminine.
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