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  • #6
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    People's pay checks should have been left alone. We are not completely out of the recession! An amount for lower earners may not seem like much, but for those living paycheck to paycheck, that small amount means a lot!
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    Didn't mean to vote you up. Do you realize that the payroll tax PAYS for your SS benefits? We were cutting our own throats by letting this tax cut go through in the first place!
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    @methinks
    It's not going through, it got forgot about. There is a difference in the payroll tax and the taxes for SS.
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    @methinks
    Not completely. Separate them, then see the difference FICA goes toward all Federal income areas. I may be wrong on some of it, but am so sick of it I don't care to look up everything, not using the flawed Internet versions, all I know is that my 21 year old son should be on SSI, but is not! He has a fatal disease that his younger brother already died from, yet our system turns him down. He really needs Medicaid, not the money in general. But no, they will not give him what he needs to survive! If/when he dies, it will be their fault for denying him medical coverage he so badly needs! The blood will also be in his fathers hands because he dropped him from his insurance without warning. If we had warning my husband could have put him in his policy. But if there is even a one minute gap in coverage, pre-existing conditions apply. His father could have kept him on until he was 26. By then we would have had time to deal with the medical issues my son has had since he had a bone marrow transplant when he was 13. I'm just sick if arguing about it. What good does SS do if you can't get on one if their programs when you are fatally ill. Though I paid for it for many years and my husband pays still, it will not be there when it comes for my retirement. It will be long gone by then!
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  • #39
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    Unfortunately not a single dollar of the surplus Social Security revenue was saved or invested in anything. It was all spent, and, once money is spent, there is nothing left to invest.
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    I agree 100%. If our politicos were forced to live off of SS & the same medical coverage ' we the people' have , it would naturally be in excellent financial condition. America as a nation is in serious trouble, but the greedy hog politicians keep 'rooting' for more. Now, more than ever, we must demand term limits & control of their 'pimp lobbyists & their constant , bloated pork barrel spending ' to garner votes .
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    As the left keeps saying, Obama won, we need to accept higher taxes and bigger government, more entitlements, it's the socialist way,
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    Its a real disappointment to work and know that the Government owns a percentage of every hour I'm there.
    Shame on both parties for being a part of that.
  • #10
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    Everyone knows that when the media talks about the "payroll tax" they are talking about a flat tax rate that supposedly funds social security and medicare don't we?

    Isn't one of the main objections to labeling Social Security an "entitlement" because people have paid into it their whole lives?

    Are we supposed to ignore the rationale the Left has for asserting that letting the Bush Tax Cuts expire wouldn't amount to a tax hike?
  • #42
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    Yeah, like we didn't see that coming...We continue to be insulted. and they have the nerve to think they deserve a
    penny raise?!...Nothing like getting your faced rubbed in it and , boy, we sure are!
  • #27
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    I have said it before and will say it again, the only way out of this mess it to reduce spending AND take on a bit more in taxes. It isnt rocket science...come on y'all!!
  • #36
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    Wrong! Sucession is the only way out of this! It's out of scale. You can't please 315 million Mur-cans, it's time to seriously consider breaking up into smaller countries as it should have been. Look up the definition of republicanism.
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    There's really no way out of our fiscal mess other than raising taxes and cutting spending. We need to run a surplus and apply that surplus to the debt.
    Stop believing in magic.
  • #16
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    A few clever investment strategies can save most folks. Throw some in an IRA, take advantage of FSA's, increase your 401k or other retirement plan there are plenty of ways to keep the government greedy paws off your money. If they try to take so much as $1 more I will find every legal possible way shield as much as I can.
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    Err...you make it sound like a threat. Go ahead, find every legal way possible to shield as much as you can, they pass those laws for that very purpose. Don't forget triple tax free munis.
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    As a nation we want SS and this is how we fund it. If you feel too much is taken out of your check elect someone who will reduce SS benefits so the tax can be lowered.
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    i think a way to help ss get back to the way it started would be stop handing it out to those who just came to the country. that is a waste.
  • #5
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    At least they fired all the democrats where I work. All 122 of them. So we do not have to put up with their ilk.
  • #9
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    How would you like it if somebody fired you because of your Constitutional Right to Vote?!?---Exactly!!!....So please Wake Up....And stop that nonsense.
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    @jamie91 I have no idea, other than the who do you suspect is acting in a manner against the company box. I guess some names could been put in that. Me, it don't matter, I never express which side I am on and am equally willing to talk about either side. However in my opinion, those people were not real democrats anyway. I mean they had jobs and was working. Clearly not a democrat thing.
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    @jamie91 Do you chat among your coworkers? I think the Republican co-workers are turning in the sympathizers.
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    @Antiecm just as I thought, it never happened, just a troll. While people may have been fired you have no idea of their politics.
  • #4
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    Everyone should note that while the GOP held strong to protecting the wealthy as best as it could that they didn't care one iota about protecting working peoples paychecks.
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    If that was true then they would have not compromised 1 bit, if you were on a sinking ship and could only save 98% but tried to save everyone as long as you could before giving up on a few to save everyone else would you agree with one of the ones you saved accusing you of not caring for them, only the ones he sacrificed ? If your like me I would sacrifice 2%...+ 1
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    @Ashstop I don't understand what you are trying to say. The Senate GOP actively negotiated to prevent the 2% break on SS taxes. They didn't try to save anyone at all other than the rich. They actually negotiated to throw the working class people off of the boat.
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    @PNWest
    No, they were trying to keep taxes down on everyone, I never heard anything about just raising the taxes on the middle class, it's the only reason some are voting on it now, to save the middle class, the revenue being discussed now is 46 times as much as the cut back on spending, Obama has no plans to cut spending on government, just raise taxes, that's how his father believed... He said the tax on the rich should be 100%!! Did you know that Google( a strong Obama supporter) just moved their headquarters out of US to take advantage of smaller taxes in other countries? I look for many to do the same, France is trying to push 75% tax on the rich, Belgium has opened their Boarders to the wealthy that are fleeing the country.
    4 trillion in new debt is what we are voting on with this new bill... And people want it!!!
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    @Ashstop The GOP negotiated more - not less cuts that effected the poor and middle class. The dems wanted to extend the 2% SS relief but the GOP wouldn't go for it. The GOP only stood up for the rich. As always. By the way, Google Global Headquarters is in Mountainview, CA. As to the French - don't make me laugh. You conservatives denigrate the French any time you can.
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  • #3
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    It's time America takes off the blinders and looks at the reality. The Boomers will mostly be all gone in 10-15 years and those contributions to SS will grow and balloon (if you elect people who won't keep stealing the money) and you future SS 20 years from now will reap a reward far greater from SS than boomers ever did. And don't tell me you're saving for your own retirement as a country because you're not.
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    Umm, I'm a boomer ... are you telling me that I will be gone in 15 years? I'll not even be able to draw full SS until then. I think you are a little short sited.
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    @Granny_Grey Those born in 1960 are still boomers...that means they will be 65 in 15 years. So, tell me how all the boomers will be gone in 15 years?
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    @Granny_Grey If you can't draw social security for 15 more years and you draw full amount at 67 that would make you 52 today. You were born in 1961. That is not a boomer. And even if it did, the majority of boomers born in the late 1940's and early 1950's will be dead by the time you draw SS. And the crisis is already over.
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