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    Liberals never think about the consequences of robbing the wealthy blind. Now the wealthy will have nothing left to give to the poor and vulnerable that the liberals claim they champion. I'm not going to comment on this story because I know all the liberal talking points that will be used. I'm just going to sit back and watch liberals try to defend this absurdity.
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    @woodtick57

    As a Christian this won't effect me since I Max out my income tax return every year. As with most Christians that believe in following Jesus example. But if you remember it is those who are are of the secular persuasion that hold the most wealth.
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    @hwyangel

    If you are talking about giving to your church, most of that is not charity...very little of it most likely. You are just giving to a service you use; your gov't subsidized faith....your welcome...
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    You've already commented on this story. Had you considered by bolstering the economy and leveling the playing field to allow for more economic mobility that charitable contributions won't need to remain as high as less people will rely upon it? Is charity not another form of entitlement to those who are to lazy to work and on welfare anyway and looking for another hand out? So a hand out is good for a man if it gives you a tax break? Most of these charities are ran by trophy wives for causes their husbands champion anyway. I agree that this is probably not the best idea. I don't agree that this villifies democrats or liberals. It's a conservative that's being quoted saying he'll give less because his real motive was to lower his taxable income anyway. I have a solution. Tax churches instead. I fail to see why churches should receive preferential treatment anyway. The vast majority of their income derives from donations. They produce nothing. The give nothing. Don't give me some wishy washy crap about eternal salvation. That's not something the church can give you. Even a passing understanding of the bible and you realize that's something you earn yourself. Not something giving billy graham your social security is gonna pay for.
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    @woodtick57 They do often make that claim, Woodtick. That's why with republicans it has always been more important to "ignore what they say---and, instead, simply watch what they do".....
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    True charity does not depend on tax breaks, it depends on the heart no matter what circumstances. If this man really wants to give, then he shouldn't make it political!!! Makes him look bad.
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    No, it's not. Everyone will always give what they think they can afford to give. Then, if there is a tax break, they will be able to give more. This means that charities will get less under the new tax rules.
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    @seedtick Or maybe as the economy gets better people will have more money to give. Tell the truth - How often have you thought about the tax consequences when donating to charity? Is it about the charity or the tax deduction?
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    It will mean those with real money will give less, Period.
    Of course it does!
    They are not goin to make less or take home less, so to cover tax increase, charities will lose out.
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    That's quite a list isn't it? You'd think someone who is committed to charity for others could find it in their hearts to work for 100K a year wouldn't you? I mean, they get expense accounts, hotels, travel, blah blah blah. 100K sounds reasonable to me.
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    When every dime you make now either goes to taxes or eating, you really have no choice. You can't give what you don't have, liberals don't grasp that though. Their motto is if you don't have it to give, you take from those who do.
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    I've never gave a dime to any charity with a tax break in mind. I give to few charities because most burn up around 75 cents of every dollar in "administrative costs". But what I do give (no kill dog shelters/abused kids) I make the commitment to give because I think those I give to are doing worthwhile work with most the money going to the actual cause. That commitment goes for the rest of my life. In good times and bad. For better or worse. It is what it is. My causes. If your cause is based on a tax deduction then it's no cause at all. It's a dodge.
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    Right! Why give it there is nothing in it for me. This is the policy the tax code promotes. It giving in these circumstances really Charity?
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    @questioner-- That depends on the definition of a key word in your question. Do you consider "charity" to be altruistic by definition?
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    Good thought, I've never thought of it as a economic quid pro quo even via a third party ... as defined it is ambigious:
    1. Provision of help or relief to the poor; almsgiving.
    2. Something given to help the needy; alms.
    3. An institution, organization, or fund established to help the needy.
    4. Benevolence or generosity toward others or toward humanity.
    5. Indulgence or forbearance in judging others. See Synonyms at mercy.
    6. often Charity Christianity The theological virtue defined as love directed first toward God but also toward oneself and one's neighbors as objects of God's love.
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    Take a look at the records of 'charitable donations' given by those in political office.
    (not) Surprisingly , those bleeding-heart liberals who want so much to tell US what to do with our money - Donate the least. Again I use the word - Elitists .
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    So what this ex-WH spokesman is really saying is that he'll give some money to a charity so he can avoid paying taxes. To him, it has nothing to do with helping others. It has to do with helping himself.
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    I do not see where in the article Fliesher says he gave to charity specifically to get the tax break. It doesn't say that at all. So why did everyone read that in? The fact is people have just so much discretionary money and if taxes go up the money they have available to give to others goes down. Churches will take a hit this year simply because their members have less money available for other obligations, not because a deduction may be reduced or eliminated.
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    What amazes me is that for the first time, I'm giving the same answer as Bozo Joe Biden.

    I give all I can, when I can regardless the circumstances..... I've given the last few dollars in my pocket because the recipient needed them more than I did at the moment.

    Bozo Biden isn't going to lower the amount he gives because he has admitted to being a greedy, selfish slob who does nothing for anyone but himself...

    Know what, I hold him in such disdane I'm writing a check for $100 to the local animal shelter as soon as I post just to widen the gap between me and him.
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