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    Primaries aren't the problem. The problem is the so called conservatives let the media lead them to picking a liberal to represent the party. We need an honest conservative who will not betray American values to be the standard bearer. If it walks like a liberal, talks like a liberal, and makes gaffes like a liberal, people will conclude it's a liberal.

    Romney didn't lose because he was too conservative, he lost because he wasn't conservative enough.
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    You. like the rest of the GOP have lost touch with what conservatism is.

    the whackjobs put up for display by the GOP in this last cycle were so far right they were not even close to conservative. The only conservatives n the bunch were Huntsman, Romney and maybe Pawlenty and you tossed out the best two and let the third buy your votes like cheap, flea market hawkers...
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    @woodtick57 sorry woodtick57 wasn't supporting your statement but I was supporting the original statement of Neo_NtheMatrix..... ....
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    I love watching this movie. This is the part where they think they they killed the vampire. But in the next scene they return from the dead.
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    I just want them to have lots and lots of debates. Let the American people see these people in action. The more the GOP candidates talk the more they drive people away.
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    Not the only problem . The Democratic party of JFK has morped into the American Communist party born in Chicago . The Republicans have become the old Democratic party with less backbone . Our problems truly aren't simply along 'party lines'. IMHO , what we now face is either a socialist gov't. that taxes workers to death to feed an increasingly larger number of dependent , Dem. voting users or an attempt by moderates or conservatives to preserve American working class values , less taxation & a smaller & less intrusive Gov't..
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    Unless the GOP realigns their platform to suit the values of their real constituency, they will go the way of the Whigs. Most conservatives are not social fascists. We want the government OUT of our lives. Somehow the Republicans think dictating morality will appeal to us, when quite the contrary is true.
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    As long as Republican choose candidates who appeal to the far right rather than to the majority of Americans, then they will continue to lose elections. As long as extremists usurp the name "conservative" and label conservatives who do not support their Biblical politics as "liberals" then they deserve to lose elections.
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    @woodtick57 the debate in this nation has shifted so far to the rigt it never occurred to me you thought yoursrlf conservative, you come accross more a moderate thoughtflu type (unlike me, but I have an image to maintain :)
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    Governement representatives and political parties are supposed to represent the will of the people. The GOP wants the citizens to follow their ideology. A losing proposition.
    I'm OK with that because the fewer republicans we have the better.
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    I have listened to al this liberal BS and I realized that its YOU that is the enemy within that is hell bent on destroying this country. How long can we keep spending money we DON'T HAVE?
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    Image is everything. In both 2008 and 2012, the GOP promoted two unelectable candidates, all things considered. Most Americans admire McCain for his military service and the Republican establishment miscalculated in believing that he would be seen in the light of a true patriot.Unfortunately, youth and glamor t trumped old age and poorly defined goals. In 2012, Romney was preselected before the primary campaign even began. Each time another candidate dropped out of the race, his followers transferred their support to other candidates. Romney never got the "bump" that would have validated his candidacy as the wholehearted choice of most Republicans. The Republican establishment is its biggest problem. The image the GOP projects is that it is the party of old, rich white Anglo-Saxon Protestants. In reality there is no "big tent." The numbers of racially, ethnically and culturally diverse members could fit under a single umbrella.
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    @marine1 You are correct, of course. The GOP has allowed itself to be defined in the context I described above. It is not attracting a following of diverse supporters of all ages, ethnicities, races or cultures. The Democrats are not ideologically "better" but they market themselves as people with whom the average voter might in some way identify and have among them potential candidates that are more likely to appeal to the increasingly diverse population. This may or may not be undisputed fact but it is the perception that so many, especially the young, hold. It seems that the GOP clings to a dynastic model. We had George H. W. Bush sandwiched between Reagan and Clinton. Georger W. for two terms, and I heard a recent conversation that suggested that in 2016, Jeb Bush would be a likely compromise candidate. This in itself suggests that the GOP is atrophying, frozen in some past time and without the enthusiasm or youth that would restore its vitality. I would not be surprised if within the next several years a third party, comprised of disenchanted conservatives, libertarians and others who feel uncomfortable with the ideology of the current Democratic Party may possibly coalesce into a third party that would gradually replace the GOP. If the system stagnates, as it apparently is now, we will have a one party government. Because I live in a city where people live and die by political affiliation, and that the first Mayor Daley called "the whorehouse of politics," I am an experienced observer of the dirty games politicians play. Neither party is worth the powder to blow it to kingdom come, and I see redemption only in a coalition of public spirited individuals who can co-opt or replace the GOP. Their numbers are shrinking because even old rich guys have only a limited amount of time on earth and their numbers are thinning out.
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    @lochlomond Not being the sharpest pencil in the box, it truly baffels me as to how so many can be so tolerant,ie ignorant to what these two parties are doing to this country. I saddly regret what we will leave our childre and grandchildren and it would appear that there are far too few that feel as i do.
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    @marine1 Again, I agree with you. Taxation is necessary to subsidize efficient government but it is also a tool to maintain or manipulate economic class structure. As your income increases you move to a higher tax bracket. Thus, you can maintain the status quo but do not have additional resources for investment., retirement or education for your children. Your gross income, not what the various taxing bodies allow you to keep, determines whether your children can receive grants to attend college. Very often, scholarships are honoriums to acknowledge excellence but are limited by government guidelines. In the past,each generation was able to pave the way for the next to enjoy a higher standard of living. This is not true today. We think we are a free people but the IRS is the instrument of oppression.
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    Isn't it past time they take the "limited government" lie out of their platform? I would be delighted if they would propose to freeze spending let alone make actual cuts to spending.
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    Does it really matter who is chosen to promote socially regressive policies and failed economic ideas?

    This isn't about representing constituents - it's the GOP civil war, establishment versus Teapartistas. Only after a victor emerges will we be able to tell if the Republican party will continue its doomed hard right agenda.
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    @PoliticalSpice I'm not sure my old heart could handle a Bachmann/Palin ticket eating corndogs at the Iowa State Fair.
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    I agree that the debates have become a farce. For republicans at least, they have become a 2 hour long attempt by one liberal moderator or another to ask leading and loaded questions in the hopes that one of them will slip up and betray their hate, or cruelty, or greed or whatever.

    Republicans should have their own debates and invite the networks to broadcast it if they want to.

    Of course... all of that depends on the next few months and whether or not the Republican Establishment continues to marginalize the fiscal conservatives with the debt limit and other two "mini-cliffs" coming up. It also depends on how the Establishment thinks it wants to change how it influences candidacies and challenges to incumbents and especially how they intend to exercise that influence with regards to Tea Party-endorsed challengers...

    By 2016, the Republican Party may have gone the way of its predecessor.
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    Primaries aren't the problem, it is their mind set, their way is the only way and they show no respect for any one or point of view other than their on. Old white men and old white women locked into the past view of the world that no longer exists.

    In short they are out of touch with reality!
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    Seriously what's the GOP going to do, hold American Idol type contests to pick Americas next top politician? How well has that worked out for idol contestants, have any of them gone on to be the next Elvis Presley, Beatles or Michael Jackson? People are pretty funny, they can see what's wrong with other politicians across the country where as they are perfectly satisfied with their own guys ... unless they get caught doing something really stupid. Notice I didn't say illegal because there have been more then a few politicians returned to congress even after getting their hand caught in the cookie jar!
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    It's called circling the wagons. The big money, owned by the rich Republicans are trying to fight back against the tea party lunatics who don't understand the way the game is played and as such want to cut corruption when in fact half the corruption is by the establishment Republicans. This is excellent. The Dumbos vs the Corrupt. It can only lead to them eating their young. Get it on. Here's your sign.
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    So in other words there will be even more behind the scenes dealing for candidates?? Why not let The People who make up the party chose.
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    @Neo_NtheMatrix hardly. He was the only candidate that could even come close to obama in an election after you tossed away huntsman and you know it. the rest were whackjobs without a chance in the political game.
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    yeah, it looked like an american idol contest...look at the fools the GOP put up as their 'darlings'! This party is in total disarray...meltdown will happen within the decade...
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    The GOP has more Problem then just Primary's...their whole thinking need to change before they will get the True Republicans to return to the Party.Start with doing things for the People not just the Uber Rich they server now.And dump the Religious nut bags,and Dump all the association with the Tea baggers then you may get People to believe in your Ideoligy.
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    @MaxPain If the GOP got rid of the Religious nut bags, racists and baggers there wouldn't enough people left to field a baseball team.
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