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  • #2
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    Wheres my money for being a female?
    We were chattel for millenia, I want some money!
    -facepalm-
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    @Waynestew - You do realize that for centuries, not only was their no divorce, but women were literally chattel to be done with as men pleased, right?
    I'll make sure to include any further replies to you in my special sarcastic font.
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    @Mogal Yes sweetie. It was a joke. Don't get your panties twisted and start pulling out your special font on me. I understood the point you are making however my rebuttal to that would be that if you are a black woman than You still were lower than a white woman. And a white woman was still higher than a black man.
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    That is a given, but since you said it first you're due reparatio... errr... Royalties, everytime it is mentioned in the future.
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    He wants to compare himself and his ilk wtih the hard working Japanese that were American citizens uprooted during WWII -- lost their homes and businesses because of a callus move by FDR! Hey Conyers, are you comparing that indignity suffered by THEM with your puny overture, hmmm? However, if you and your constituents can prove they came over on the slave ship with Kunta Kente - Lets talk...<wink>
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    *sigh* true. Slavery was bad. But all the Slaves and their Owners are now dead. In the UK the government just said it was wrong it's over and now lets move on. I dont understand this at all. How does this not seem crazy in the US?
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    As long as I get paid for every disabled person who was ever thrown into an asylum to be brutalized till they died, locked away as a dirty family secret etc. sure. Honestly, why does everyone wanna have their cake and eat it too here? "we wanna move forward and be accepted like everyone else" but we WILL constantly remind whitey and everyone else about an evil institution that while it still exists does not affect the modern american, white OR black. Affirmative Action, Black history month, NAACP, the ACLU which while not entirely an organization devoted to racial issues handles many of them. How much more is there to do? Any MODERN discrimination that exists is the fault of BOTH sides.
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    You are incapable to critically examine the topic to understand the impact of slavery back then and it's impact on American society and how it's shaped even the modern time. You are only capable of looking at this on the surface and making ignorant comment about something that was so serious that people lived and died bc of it and that some were brave enough to stand and fight to end it. Now, can the govt ever repay back or even make any reparations that could cover America's greatest sin, Hell No, & am I even for it? Not entirely, but try to understand b4 post some stupid comments that showed your lack of compassion, sensitivity and care.
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    @MBernard-- If 4x4 is showing lack of compassion or whatever for whichever group you think he insulted... then you are showing a complete lack of compassion for every disabled person who was ever thrown into an asylum to be brutalized till they died, locked away as a dirty family secret etc.

    Maybe you should have critically examined 4x4's comment before spouting off the way you did.
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    I know you're perfectly capable of defending yourself... I just couldn;t stop myself from stepping in. :-)
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    @MBernard "some were brave enough to stand up and fight to end it" Just fight? Didnt more americans die in the civil war than all our other wars combined? Does the blood at gettysburg mean anything? I dont nessacarily believe in ghost stories but that ground is filled with unfinished lives I think. How much is enough? I as a white man am not allowed to have an opinion on it. I am allowed to pay at the office. This looks like even more money to be thrown in an attempt to satisfy the never enough crowd. How much is enough? If you get reps, will the complaint then be it was too small?
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    @CATTLEPROD of course I know it was more than just fight and that ppl died to end it though I did not explicitly stated that. as for your other questions, well, some sins you just can't pay up.
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    Any surviving slave from the era when slavery was legal would definitely have a case. Their descendants... not so much. The money that would be spent in reparations for them would be better spent fighting modern day human trafficking.
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    Excellent point. Let's put a stop to the slavery that is happening right now. You would think the decendents of former slaves here would be leading this fight. The lead is being taken by Christians, the same people who stopped slavery here.
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    SURE!!!! I'm all for paying a million dollars to ANYONE who was a slave between 1619 and 1865. Enslaving them was wrong and we should make it right with them.

    Their descendants are entitled to the same thing all of us are... opportunity to the pursuit of happiness. Paying them enslaves me and I'm not expecting to be seeing reparations.
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    "When the subject of reparations is raised, everybody goes:'Well, I didn't have slaves. Those were my ancestors. Get over it.' Well you didn't ask those other mother-----s to get over it. Why do we got to get over it?'"

    This is just more stupid rabble rousing. And who are "those other mother-----s"??
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    I'm curious have you ever asked yourself or desired a study on what are the true lasting impacts of slavery? And that is on any culture?
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    @Thunderchicken Never an official government study. Freep slaves were promised 40 acres and a wheel from the US government. Some looked into how much 40 acres and a mule will cost in today's money and realized this would bankrupt the government if given.

    Why are you uninterested? Please be detailed I'm really curious.
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    I suppose I could demand reparations for being Irish. But as a Christian I cannot hold a grudge against the people who denied jobs to my ancestors. Such hatred and bitterness would harm only me. The past is over and done. Doesn't Conyers introduce this every year? The real cure for race relations in this country is forgiveness. The apologies have been issued long ago. What is required now is forgiveness.
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    I just posted something similar about Irish indenture. Brilliant post! Conyers is just relighting the torch for race baiting again...
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    Too funny, being of Irish descent, I was think the same thing... For me it would get even more interesting as I a related to English aristocracy as well... Would I be taking from myself to pay myself?

    This guy is a joke as is his proposal.... Yes slavery was a terrible thing... For ALL people's who been enslaved of the millennia, but that it is part of the nature of we humans... Perhaps one day we will learn ( hopeful, but doubtful)
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    @Middleman Have you ever pondered over what would happen if the government said "Fine. Each adult gets $1000 (for instance) in reparations. Now we have paid our debt in full. There will be no more welfare, or affirmative action. Nothing."
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    Hey sport, I never owned slaves nor did my horse thieving relatives. Nor did you or your constituents come over on the slave ship with Kunta Kente....However, I would entertain the idea of giving you and your ilk a jackass and forty acres iffen you would move to Liberia....

    Mr. Conyers go out and get a real job instead of having your greedy fingers in our back pockets .....
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    Hmmm what about all the White slaves that were in colonial America? Or does that muddy up the perpetual victim status of African Americans?
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    @xyz
    Yep, yep--My ancestral roots are Irish and Cherokee. Historical accounts abound with atrocities suffered by both in the US. Of course, Jews, Asians, Hispanics and others also endured intolerable treatment. So why don't all these other ethnic groups get in the entitlement line with the blacks? It's called SELF -DIGNITY ......
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    This is a smack in the face of every Union Soldier who died to free the slaves. America broke the European and African tradition of slavery. We didn't invent it.
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    Maybe I read the wrong history books, but was there ever anything given let's say in 1866 or 67 to make up for the 400 years of slavery. NO oh then I guess the debt is still outstanding.
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    @Waynestew Fine... lets dig up the folks who were offended any pay them... but lets dig up the people who offended them to pay them.
  • #89
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    The country is broke. We cann't afford reparations. How about we just give anyone who can prove slave ancestry a white republican from a slave owning family as their own personal slave?
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    I agree. No one in my family was in this country until after 1885. I guess if we're going this route, what about reparations for descendents of Irish indenture?
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  • #196
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    First of all their own race traded slaves to us. It wasn't like we set man traps, and what about the white endentured servents, the Japanese, and other enslaved workers. This idiot sees a movie and now is an expert in race relations? This is about as racist as any politician can get and he should be removed from office immediately! If Ran Paul wanted payment for white endentured servents, and the white coal mine camp workers, black politicians would scream racism. Jessie Jackson would bring his Reading Rainbow circus on CNN with Obama and set this country into a racial civil ranting war. How in the hell can this country move forward when we have assholes like this bringing up the past? Get this guy out of politics because there is no room for racism in politics.
  • #182
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    I feel so bad that their own people sold them into slavery. I will pay for a one way ticket for him to go to africa.
  • #185
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    This idiot is the reason why there is still racism. The people who had nothing to do with this are sick of your whining.
  • #179
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    I'm black, and I say "No!". Some of my ancestors were white slave owners.(Slave owners did have sex with their slaves, and there was no real birth control back then...) My dad's side were all free men. So, I might end up owing if they actually did the math.
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    I have some English ancestors and that makes it very likely some of them were killed and/or enslaved by occupying Romans. A whole lot of people were. Does that mean Italy owes me reparations?
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    i wonder if they are going to request reparations from the other blacks in Africa that originally sold them to to other slave traders of the world???supposedly some blacks in this country owned slaves,are they going to own up?what about the democratic party thats keeping them enslaved now???
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