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  • #11
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    A guy i worked with once said
    "It's not that guns kill people, or that people kill people. It's that people don't teach their kids to behave."

    Brilliant.
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    @woodtick57

    No doubt we have allot of enemies that would like to see us disarmed. And unfortunately that includes half of our own government.
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    Bad parenting! That's what Arnold Schwarzenegger said was to blame. His portrayal of the Terminator relentlessly hunting down and cold-bloodedly murdering people couldn't possibly have inspired any spree killers, could it?
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    Yep it's obviously video games! Every time I see a turtle I kill it before it shoots its fireballs at me. Those pesky mushrooms are easily disposable too. I just can't wait to jump on them! Grrrrr!
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    Parents are the front line when it comes to their children. Teach them right from wrong, monitor them, keep an eye on the indivduals they are becoming. It is the parents and families and those close to the children that matter the most. I, personally, don't care for gruesome and gory TV, but I get enough in real life. Just my very humble opinion.
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    Sounds wonderful if you live a life living on the corner of Chardonnay and Brie in two parent home with a stay at home mom who is the real soccer mom. Reality, many families both parents work. 50%+ of homes with single Mom working full time frequently in neighborhood where teaching right from wrong is difficult when wrong is so profitable. Real world TV is the least of the problems facing parents.
    Happy to be able to look at my kids doing a great job with grandchildren and glad it's not me on the firing line
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    @martydotcom

    I come from a single parent home, my mother passed when I was young. My father, a law enforcement officer, worked crazy hours, but made himself readily available to teachers and school officials. Our activities were monitored and shenanigans were dealt with appropriately. Yes, being an LEO might have contributed to his outlook, but we knew where we stood and just what our parameters were. This all managed on the Texas-Mexico border where teenagers in the past pretty much ran wild. So the single parent thing is all in how the child is raised. The parent is the most important role model in a childs life. There are several childhood friends that came from a single mother home where mom worked 2 jobs. These friends were raised in the rougher part of town and were kept on top of even closer than myself, and they are probably more well adjusted than I.(Crazy sentence, but its what I wanted to say..lol) The point I am making in my long winded way kids need to be watched by their parents, period.
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    @martydotcom Even if both parents work, that is no excuse to not parent or be a parent. When you were growing up, TV was not a readily available as it is now. TV wasn't even readily available for me as a child till I was out of high school and in college. Glad your kids turned out fine and have fabulous grandkids. Still doesn't aleviate the fact that you have to be parents 24/7 365. My wife and I have no regrets about having our kids, 10 and 8 y/o boys, but as with any couple our greatest concern was being able to afford them. Changing our lifestyle a bit, both of us getting better jobs and our mutual faith in God is what is allowing us to reasonably survive.

    TV is part of the problem because all news agencies glamourize or sensationalize stories to generate numbers for funding. It is unfortunate that the only thing that makes the news is misfortunate occurances. I also fault the Internet. Too much infomation floating around freely in electronic space readily available for google searches.

    If I did not need a computer for my job, we'd probably not even have one in the house let alone on our person. Just my thoughts.
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    @Republican5001 "Being able to afford them" being the operative phrase. I set up trusts for grandchildren's college 15, 13. 12 and 10 years ago. What was considered a more than generous sum at the time I started these trusts will now suffice thru their sophomore year of college.
    I think you would be making a critical mistake not making every technology tool available to your children. I'd want my grandchildren to be as technically astute as possible to enable them to compete in todays world. I hold no illusion as to what's available on to them on the internet. Long ago I accepted the fact that any determined child will gain assess to that which Is forbidden if they set their minds to do it.. I always saw it as my parental reasonability not to deny this to my kids, but the teach them how to process it, not become obsessed by it and to treat it for what it is, trash. That which is forbidden is always far more enticing and is blown well out of proportion
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    OK, I'll play.

    Obviously, the blame for mass murder must be placed on violence in the media, which might give a person ideas, instead of the honest free-market gun dealers, who merely place the lethal weapon and ammunition in the killer's hands.
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    For the better part of my children's lives, America has been at war. They've witnessed REAL violence...not pretend violence on TV shows or video games. They can watch 24 news and see bombings and dead soldiers and hear about civilian casualties. They've been raised with an "enemy" to hate and despise. They can sit in Dad's car on the way to school and get indoctrinated with the hateful rhetoric of Limbaugh and Hannity. Every REAL bad thing that happens in America becomes a non-stop news program that surrounds our kids in a bloody audio-visual world of crime and war and hate and despair. But we're concerned about the video game they're playing?

    Good Lord, people. If we took every video game and burned it, the world around our kids is still the most violent I've ever seen...especially our own country. What can we possibly expect from our society? We create violence, we live for violence, we make money from violence....but we think our kids we grow up to be flower children? Children learn what they live; and that's not just in the home. They also learn from their society. Look around at what we teach them.
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    Yet, again, other countries also haved mental illnes and lots of guns,a nd they do not have the repeated, public mass shootings the US has. what is the difference between these cultures?
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    @Dan_Tien Canada , Switzterland, the nordic states...you know all the ones people on this site have mentioned before and that you have responded to...

    why do you ask again?
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    That might just solve it! Although, remember the girl shooter who spawned the song, "I don't like Mondays"? hmmm....glitches everywhere...
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    Yeah, what a racist answer. OK on politix of course, because all evil in this country has been the white mans fault. I will admit than when we snap, lots of people die before we do, however, the thug-gangbanger mentallity of other segments of society have lots of blood on there hands too. How many people with a grill and a gun have killed 1 here, 2 there, over time adding up to alot of deaths? Are you going to profile them at the gun store the same way you will whitey?
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    Don't our canadian naeighbors watch pretty much the same TV as US boob tube fools? Don't hey buy the same vids?

    why aren't they knockin' each other off in public by the high capacity mags every month?
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    Canada is not immune.

    In the 1989 14 women were killed by Marc Lépine at the Ecole Polytechnique in Montreal.

    In 2006, Kimveer Gill fired 72 rounds at Montreal’s Dawson College, injuring 16 and killing a student.

    In June of 2012 Christopher Husbands opened fire in Toronto’s Eaton Centre, killing two people and injuring three others.

    In July of 2012 several criminal nut cases opened fire at a barbecue in Toronto killing two people and injuring 23 others.

    If you compare the population of Canada especially the population density with the US they have a comparable number of people killed with firearms. It is not the gun it is the psychotic nut. If he can't get a gun he will get something else. Canada also has much more severe gun control than the US and still these things happens.

    This is also not a new phenomenon. Google the Bath, Michigan School Disaster of 1927. It was the worst mass murder of school children in the history of the United States.
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    I saw my share of violent tv and movie programs, read books with violent themes, grew up in the 70's where street rallies sometimes led to minor routs, followed the news on five wars. Still, I have yet to engage in serial murder or spree killings, and it's not like the bush administration didn't tempt me! People are ultimately responsible for there actions. Blaming t.v. is crazy. Besides, I though we were supposed to blame everything on bush...
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    Played video games my whole life. Watched violent movies my whole life. Not once have I hit a motorcycle trying to pass me with a chain, as Road Rash has taught me to do. Not once have I killed a redhead because they have no soul, therefore no heart, as South Park and Kingdom Hearts have taught me. The few times I've been in fights in my life, not once did we take turns hitting each other, like Final Fantasys taught me. Not once did I yell at a police officer who had taken up position behind his car during a standoff to "stop camping fag!" as many FPS has taught me.
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    No, now we blame Obama for everything. i use obamacare for an excuse for everything from being late to dinner or forgetting to signal my turn...
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    @woodtick57 typical republican, it's obvious bush is responsible for the fact that the resaraunt burnt my toast and the coffee was cold. How can you deny such basic facts?
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    @PoliticalSpice Not a republican at all...just changin' with the times. it used to be Bush was to blame for everything from a flat tire to low compression in my 6th cylinder. Now it is Obama. this is the way of the new US politico discussion.

    Welcome to the hypetext transfer protocol://
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    Now you fellers know in this day and time that there are more than enough lawyers out there, who, for a fee and a cut of the winnings, will tell you and represent in court that whatever it was you did was NOT your fault and are NOT to be held accountable for your actions however stupid those actions were.
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    Frankly, nobody foments hate like Chris Matthews and Ed Schultz. Nobody. It's relebtless, and it's all lies. The top brass at NBC allow it. Of course they are responsible. One word from them and the tone would change overnight. Psychologists have know for years that violent content breeds violence. The media has refused ti listen. People reading this will deny the obvious. It's a whole lot easier to simply blame guns and give the Democrats the disarmed populace they want than to admit we have been profoundly stupid and gone way off track in this country.
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    Rush Limbourh, ann Coulter, sharon angels, sarah palin all call for peace on eartyh and good will to all...you are a more then a bit of a hypocrite, either that or you really are living in a delusion. Even so, these violent voices, on the left or right, are not what result in spree killings...
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    @PoliticalSpice Show me please where any of these people appears on tv night after night snarling with hatred over "racists" from any party. You can't. Furthermore there is abundent evidence that the Aurora theatre shooter was heavily influenced by a recent movie, up to and including his orange hair.
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    @Realthinker I cann't cause i don't watch them, but ann coulter made some pretty hateful comments about 9/11 widows, rush, don't get me started. And all this nonesense about being born in kenya, not being an american, calling him a muslim. Please, i've been watching politics since the racism of dems like the klan and george wallace was adopted as the southern stratergy of nixon and reagan, and the veiled references and sometimes not do veiled references to obamas race are the worse i have seen in over 40 years of watching politics.

    No question, the aurora shooter was influenced by the joker in batman, but when i think of a joker the first thought that comes to mind is rush limbough or some of the right wingers who rant on this site. Dems, for all there faults, hardly have that much pinach, and certianly don't have enough affinity for the second amendment to build up such an arsenal.

    A joke people, take a breath abd calm down...
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    @PoliticalSpice You don't watch them, but you know what they said? How? Are you absolutely certain that what you were told is the complete truth? There are "veiled references" to Obama's race? Good heavens what would that be? What is the "joke"?
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    @Realthinker i do see them on occasion, because the most outrageous stuff, you know, their greatest hits does get coverage. I gave a few examples of the reference I mean, and the joke is that folks like you actually will deny, or seem to believe that people like, palin, sharon angels, limbough, ann coulture, etc. do not make hateful remarks.
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    Thats all yall show is constent coverage of crazy people...i played video games and shor guns my whole life and i havent went crazy n killed people but i did have a great raising n if i needed it gor my butt whipped..unlike these nowadays..o poor lil johnny hes this hes that he only killed two people let him out he good..Bs
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    idolatry is the cause of all, hell and death on this planet. quit blaiming the instruments, for what idolatry causes. delusionally tiptoeing through the tulips, in the valley of hell and death is not being realistic.
  • #156
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    Like any big executive or CEO , they are whores who will do anything to increase the bottom line & make profits to make themselves look good. Politics today exempted , if BO ran a McDonalds in the mall & failed as miserably as he has , in today's business world, he would have been replaced in 3 to 6 months. Bank on it . To the media , the bisaed justice system & everyone else today - it's ALWAYS somebody else's fault.
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    I don't think there is just one thing you can "blame" for violence in America. There are many factors that contribute to violence. It's a combination of nature, nurture, expected roles, societal pressures, and chance to behave violently. Some people are fine being exposed to fake violence, while others are not. There is not an easy answer.
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    I had to listen for 8 damn years ad nausium, everything was Bushs fault, from the Red Tide, to a shooting star..now listen up, its ALL Odummys fault!!!
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