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  • #38
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    "Unconstitutional laws are not law!"
    -Joshua Boston-



    I'm glad to see our veterans are standing against this treasonous war on the constitution!

    Here is a letter from Cpl. Joshua Boston, to the communist hag Senator Dianne Feinstein...

    Senator Dianne Feinstein,

    I will not register my weapons should this bill be passed, as I do not believe it is the government’s right to know what I own. Nor do I think it prudent to tell you what I own so that it may be taken from me by a group of people who enjoy armed protection yet decry me having the same a crime. You ma’am have overstepped a line that is not your domain. I am a Marine Corps Veteran of 8 years, and I will not have some woman who proclaims the evil of an inanimate object, yet carries one, tell me I may not have one.

    I am not your subject. I am the man who keeps you free. I am not your servant. I am the person whom you serve. I am not your peasant. I am the flesh and blood of America.

    I am the man who fought for my country. I am the man who learned. I am an American. You will not tell me that I must register my semi-automatic AR-15 because of the actions of some evil man.

    I will not be disarmed to suit the fear that has been established by the media and your misinformation campaign against the American public.

    We, the people, deserve better than you.

    Respectfully Submitted,

    Joshua Boston

    Cpl, United States Marine Corps

    ΜΟΛΩΝ
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    Our founders were a helluva a lot smarter than these miscreants that want to control every aspects of our lives. They also warned us of despots that can easily transform a nation of God given freedoms into an oligarchy....

    "I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
    George Mason
    Co-author of the Second Amendment
    during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

    "And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; …"
    Samuel Adams
    quoted in the Philadelphia Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1789, "Propositions submitted to the Convention of this State"



    "Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
    George Washington
    First President of the United States

    "The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution."
    Thomas Jefferson
    Third President of the United States

    "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
    Ben Franklin
    American Statesman

    And the list goes on.......

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    For those who know history. The Brits ("Redcoats") tried to confiscate firearms. The Turks confiscated firearms against the Armenians, which led to the Armenian genocide of 1912. Hitler confiscated firearms, that led to the Holocaust. Stalin confiscated firearms, that led to the Holomodor. Here in the USA, we have the 2nd Amendment for Good Reason. Our Forefathers wanted the people to recognize that governments should fear them, not the other way around. And SCOTUS has ruled twice on this already (Heller v. DC and McDonald v. Chicago), affirming the 2nd Amendment shall not be infringed.
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    I have friends in Australia and the UK that have told me that the anti gun groups are using the exact same script their governments used against them
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    Russia, China, France, Britain, Australia.......anyone getting the picture yet?
    Obama signed on to the United Nations (UN) Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) shortly after his re-election.
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    Yes! The recent blatant hypocrisys should at the very least cause some anti gun folks to take notice. If it came down to a total ban, I'm sure some would surrender theirs. Many would not. We are already seeing the elitists have no problem hiring armed protection while attempting to disarm the common man.
  • #151
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    If they lock all us legal gun owners up for not giving up our guns,who will feed their blood sucking tax system. Remember when dems use to be the real people of this country?
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    Almost two weeks after a shooting spree stunned Australia in 1996, leaving 35 people dead at the Port Arthur tourist spot in Tasmania, the government issued sweeping reforms of the country’s gun laws.

    There hasn’t been a mass shooting since.

    Just 12 days after the 1996 shooting in Port Arthur, then-Prime Minister John Howard – a conservative who had just been elected with the help of gun owners – pushed through not only new gun control laws, but also the most ambitious gun buyback program Australia had ever seen. Some 650,000 automatic and semiautomatic rifles were handed in and destroyed under the program.

    Though gun-related deaths did not suddenly end in Australia, gun-related homicides dropped 59 percent between 1995 and 2006, with no corresponding increase in non-firearm-related homicides. Suicides by gun plummeted by 65 percent, and robberies at gunpoint also dropped significantly. Many said there was a close correlation between the sharp declines and the buyback program.

    Perhaps the most convincing statistic for many, though, is that in the decade before the Port Arthur massacre, there were 11 mass shootings in the country. Since the new law, there hasn’t been one shooting spree.

    In the wake of the shooting, polls indicated that up to 85 percent of Australians supported the measures taken by the government.

    In the wake of the Newtown shooting, several Australian politicians are now suggesting that the US adopt Australia’s gun laws.“I implore you to look at our experience,” Labor Member of Parliament Kelvin Thomson wrote in an open letter to the US Congress that he also posted on his official website.“As the number of guns in Australia reduced, so too did gun violence. It is simply not true that owning a gun makes you safer.”recently.

    “There have been always been great differences between the number of weapons that Australians and Americans own – that is precisely why there are so many more deaths, on a per capita basis, in the United States. It is also true that there are differences in the way Americans and Australians view weapons – nevertheless … our experience is relevant and potentially informative – we had massacres, we acted, we no longer have massacres.”
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    @culinary
    Or you can go live in a 3rd world country since that is where people like you are sending this country.:)
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    @PayThatCEO
    Actually the attitude is not American its Regressives who think that if you don't want the America they want you should leave even if the majority agrees with you.
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    I read that after Australia's gun ban was enacted, armed robberies rose by 51%, unarmed robberies by 37%, assaults by 24% and kidnappings by 43%. While murders fell by 3%, manslaughter rose by 16%. And after England's ban in 1997, crime rose by 40% over the next 2 years.
    If the President, Congress, and the elitists in America (Dem & GOP) can have armed protection for both themselves as well as their children, the same should apply to all American citizens.
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    Don't be surprised if that goverment officer ( police) don't break your other rights by just coming on in your house as they please when you tell them I have no guns
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    anyone who thinks otherwise has their head in the sand.

    This country was founded on people having that right to protect themselves from over zealous governments bent on taking away our rights.
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    Anything for ratings. No one is suggesting the 2nd amendment be removed but it sure does stir people up if it's suggested. His next show will be: "The sky is falling."
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    You keep denying that anyone want to do away with the Second amendment while every 15 min on the news this morning there are reports that leglisation is being proposed to render the second amendment null and void. Tracking all gun sales effectively crests a regristry. Making gun ownership a privilege instead of a right. You can deny all day but you know better.
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    At this point it is merely more gov't dividing the people, that and trying to get a handle (estimate) on who all the gun owners are, so that, and believe me this is the could be the plan, the UN forces can come in and go door to door collecting our guns.
    Now I can't remember what the document was or is called, but I remember that before the election the US was preparing to sign some UN trash outlawing gun ownership by private citizens. This Document would trump our constitution, so I understood. It would also allow for your arrest for having a gun in any country that had signed the document.
    So really I am without a lot of facts about it, but I am putting it out there so that anyone who knows or finds out anything can let us all know.
    All I know is I heard about this document in October and that Hillary was going over to sign it, but then I never heard another word, I figure it was because it would have been political suicide for Obama, but in light of all this anti-gun trash lately, which now seems like a prelude to the UN deal, maybe there is some truth to it, idk, but I sure don't trust my country anymore.
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    Time to adjust your tin foil hat.:)

    I heard something vague about a UN resolution, too, but I don't remember anything being in it about criminalization of gun ownership. As for UN forces going door to door in America: right, that'll work,'cause we all know how formidable and effective UN troops are in the rest of the world.
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    Was just aomething I heard, as I said.
    You think that wreck of UN troops you see us all the UN has, well Kate, you would be amazed then, maybe one day you will actually see their all-star forces.
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    I just read this morning there were 323 firearm deaths in the U.S. in 2012, 496 bludgenings by hammers or blunt instruments, 650 killed with knives, 12,000 killed by drunk drivers, and 195,000 deaths due to medical malpractice. Seems to me Obamacare will become the number 1 killer-not guns.
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    I think your numbers are off...according to the FBI statistics site, there were over 8,500 firearms deaths in 2011. The 496 deaths by blunt objects is correct. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in...

    Still, I do not believe that removing guns from GOOD citizens will stop the BAD ones from killing each other, especially when vice is involved. MAKE DRUGS AND PROSTITUTION LEGAL AND EASY TO GET for adults...and watch the death rates drop!
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    The second amendment will stand.
    But we DO need a revolution. A revolution against the plutocrats. A revolution to take back our country from Wall Street, from big oil, the banks, the insurance companies.
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    Blaming wall street and big oil etc is simply naive. GOVERNMENT is at the heart of all that ails us. The free market is what makes this country great. Companies can choose to charge what they want for a given commodity and the people buying it have the right to not buy it if they do not want to. The real issue is that government tells US what to do with just about HALF of our money by way of taxing us (both private individuals and companies) We would ALL have "more" to go around if government didn't spend our money for us like it was burning a hole in their pocket. Taxes are needed for essentials. But there are so many special interests and PACs involved in our government now, its ridiculous. You shouldn't take guns away from citizens and you shouldn't take the concept of making profit out of the capitalist system we have.(After all, businesses are in business to make money, not give away their money.) The GOVERNMENT is the factor that screws BOTH sides and makes it worse for all by supporting those who would rather live off the system than work to make it on their own.
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    @shadango
    We live in a Plutocracy. Some things we have no, or little choice, to buy. If you drive a car, you have no choice but to buy both gas and insurance. And the Plutocrats who control our government, who control us, are largely from banks, big oil, insurance corporations. Capitalism is good only when controlled by the people, not when it controls the people.
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    Robin Williams did a skit way back about gun control: "...and in England, guns are illegal. The police don't have guns and you don't have guns. During a police chase in London, you can hear the police yell 'STOP! Or I'll say STOP again!" Our government has been HORRENDOUSLY unable to stop drugs and prostitution, and back in the prohibition days, alcohol. Those are just the VICE that the everyday person may be interested in. What makes anyone think that GOVERNMENT can do away with the threat of guns in the hands of criminals by way of making guns inaccessible to law abiding people?? It's back-asswards. My God people....wake up.
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    This is a relatively vacuous hypothetical situation. The second Amendment does not need to be scrapped in order to have common sense regulation against assault weapons and high capacity magazines.
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    On the other hand, when we revolted against England over taxes (and won), there were no taxes at first here. Then, our government instituted "just a few basic taxes for the greater good". Now look at where we are. It's a slippery slope....opening the door by convinving that they are "just after high capacity magazines and assault weapons" is just the beginning. BANNING is the problem here. Legit citizens should be able to own whatever they want. And if they screw up, they should pay dearly. But most legit owners do NOT screw up. The stories you do NOT see on the web and the "news" stations are about the thousands of legal, law abiding citizens who own these types of things. Just like anything else, you hear about the PROBLEM people, not the innocent, law abiding majority.
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    @shadango There was a revolt over egregious taxation. I don't think that you could find enough like minded Americans who agree with you to mount a rebellion. What is more, I certainly don't think they could stand up to the US military. Similarly we also didn't have a standing military at the time of our founding.
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    It would be silly for the government to think that I would allow their employees with guns to take mine. There is no logic in this! What would happen if I went to disarm the government? Well, there ya go! I will allow replies by folks who do not have any personal experience with guns because they only think the way they think based on what they have heard or read in the media. I, for one, love my country as it has been during my life, and will lay down my life, if needed, fighting to keep my rights.
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    What finally sparked the first American Revolution? Wasn't taxes - it was when the Royal government created such an atmosphere of discontent over day-to-day policies and then remembered that the colonist were armed. Didn't the shooting start when they went after some cannons?

    If you feel the need to remind me our military could handle an internal revolt please take some time and talk with some of our soldiers - and remember that many of the current gun owners were taught to use their weapons by the same military!
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    There was a young girl, one of four people, that comitted four very cruel murders. As part of a defense that I still don't understand she claimed that 28 people were drug dealers. Twenty-eight families had their homes raided and their property siezed under the RICO Act.
    There were never any charges filed against any of the 28. The grand total of what the anti-drug teams, cops, sheriffs deputies and the FBI found was 7/8 of a gram of weed from those 28 homes. They siezed hundreds of thousands of dollars of cash and personal property from these families.
    My home was one of those hit in the name of government justice. We had 50 cops of various types hit our home, and that number is not an exxageration. My kids were forced to sit with shotguns and assault rifles trained on them for over an hour and a half. My house was trashed. I was taken to the garage and had team after team try to make me admit to something I wasn't even involved in. The lettuce in my iguana's tank was pronounced 'marijuana residue'. Our money was taken along with a lot of other property. Then they all left and my family and I sat there in total shock. My 16 year old son, a truly straight and square kid that had his whole life planned out in a conservative's dream, asked me over and over what happened to us and why?
    How do you answer that? We were associated with nothing illegal in any way except that a teenage girl found a ready audience for what turned out to be a lie. We never got one thing back that was siezed.
    This happened to 28 families.
    That girl got 15 years for four murders and didn't even serve all of that.
    What is kept behind my door now? No one's business unless they make the mistake of trying to rob me and abuse my family again. Will I lose such a raid again? Most assuredly. But I'll be damned if I'll sit there and let this happen again. I just can't do that.
    My opinion of the Second Amendment? HELL YEAH!
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    Sounds like the warrant they had was issued under false evidence, and pretty flimsyu evidence, but it you try to stop a police raid witha warrant byu using your gun, you know there will be only one end of that for you, don't you?
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    I share a story that is similar to yours, but I'll retell it another time and just say that I was your 16 year old. My whole life got turned up side down just because they believe someone else's words. WORDS. This was like a singularity event in my life that changed everything. Since then, I HATE cops. Don't get me wrong, I respect officers and what they do, but it's their job. I don't cry when one has their life lost in the line of duty. The officer arresting my dad and brother (my only family, really) was a teacher I had in the D.A.R.E. program at school. He was serving in two different districts and cooked the books on his time cards. It was a decent sized scandal because a sizable chunk of money was essentially stolen. He still has both his jobs. My dad and brother went to jail for crimes they didn't commit. Protect and serve my ass.
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    @Mbjhug The change in my son was abrupt and immediate. We all had lasting effects from this but I can point to the specific day and event that 'ruined' my son. There is no way to accept what happened that day.
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    http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/drug-war-...
    This site lists innocent victims of the war on drugs. I think that even if legalizing drugs meant there would be more addicts or overdoses then that's still outweighed by this. Trying to stop drug trafficking is not worth serious harm to innocent people much less death(and this site has plenty of deaths listed on it). People who become addicted to drugs or overdose have themselves to blame. We can take sympathy on them. We can offer advice and help. We can even require drug companies to pay for rehab services. Ultimately though it's on them, and trying to force people not to do drugs tends to lead to resistance. Saving people from themselves isn't worth making others into collateral damage.
    There are valid concerns about legalization but all of those concerns can be remedied while still legalizing drugs. Dangerous drugs that can lead to seriously violent behavior at times can be managed by requiring them only to be consumed at special, licensed locations under the watch of trained professionals who know how to deal with people on drugs when things go wrong. This alone would've spared us many tragedies. The bath salts cannibal may have just had a bad trip, been restrained and comforted through the trip, never hurt anybody, and left the experience not wanting to experiment with that again.
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    @stepped_in_it They did, in a different time and under very different circumstances. We did not win that war, the Brits lost it.
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    @harold_lloyd I agree it's far removed from reality. I also believe most of our own military would have a hard time shooting on it's own people, even if the CIC ordered it..but, that's just a far removed opinion of mine!
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    Cheenoguy, that is a great analogy. In your story, the chickens would be the US citizens and your grandma the government. A chicken (citizen) loses his life (rights) so the grandma and her family (the government) can get what they want, by force. Do you REALLY trust your government after seeing what it has done to the American way in this country? One reason criminals still do what they do is that the bleeding hearts say that criminals have to be treated humanely. 3 meals a day and clean dry place to sleep...how is THAT punishment? Go back to corporal punishment and make prison a thing to AVOID...then criminals will think twice. Removing guns from the hands of legitimate , peace loving citizens will just make those citizens even more endangered at the hands of criminals. CRIMINALS WILL ALWAYS FIND GUNS OR A WAY TO KILL PEOPLE TO GET THEIR WAY! So, if the bleeding hearts get their way this time, only criminals and the government will have guns. Are you that trusting? I , for one, do not want to be the chicken in your story.
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