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    @MadAmerican

    Been there, done that. I racked my mossberg pump once and I heard one of go "fuck me" and they both left.
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    I think both sides of this issue have merit and both sides have some strange notions about how to address the problem. Also, both sides are being unreasonably stubborn. We can preserve the 2nd Amendment AND make school children safer with more focus and resources placed on mental health issues. Maybe ban high capacity clips/magazines from future sales, but isn't the genie long out of the bottle on personally owned guns? It isn't the gun that makes these young men and boys act out this way, but we need to do more to identify those at risk of "going postal" and insure that they can't get their hands on guns.
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    Exactly what I keep saying. The idea of the gun is out. You would have to do away with all the plans, machines and material that makes guns. Then wipe every memory of how they were every produced..... proverbial "cat is out of the bag".
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    "We attended today's White House meeting to discuss how to keep our children safe and were prepared to have a meaningful conversation about school safety, mental health issues, the marketing of violence to our kids and the collapse of federal prosecutions of violent criminals. "
    All reasonable items since we now know (see California school shooting attack today using a shotgun) that "assault" guns come in all shapes and sizes. I will be up front and say I don't understand the assault gun, but, I will defend your Constitutional right to have them. And I still say that if given 2 decent revolvers with 8 "quick" loaders for them and I (or any decent shooter) could do major carnage. Any gun beyond a muzzle loader can be considered an "assault" gun....IMO
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    I like a shotgun myself. Your aim doesn't have to be so precise, and my eyesight isn't getting any better these days. I also don't understand having something like an AR 15, but like you I will defend any American's right to own one. Just don't point that thing at me!
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    @Denizen_Kate i don,t know how you fit in target shooting and the like with all that cookie baking,sandwich making etc. but you shotgun is a lot more dangerous than than any assault Rifle,a 3 in, 12 gauge slug will take out just about anything at 200 ft or less,or triple OO buck in 12 gauge 3 in. shell, devastating at close range,especially if you wire the shot together
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    @MongoAPillager - Trust me, I know all that. FYI mine is a Remington 20 gauge, practically an antique, it was my mother's. Light and portable, ready for the zombie apocalypse. Don't worry, I haven't been out shooting in years, too busy baking your cookies and bringing your slippers. ;-)
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    @Denizen_Kate thanks for the cookies,i like no-bake chocolate..P.S. i just got an e-mail from the Taliban saying i need to lighten up on women's rights issues
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    So the NRA gets invited to the meeting on gun violence and now is pouting because the meeting was about guns and they couldn't change the subject.
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    Sir, I have seen you attack the NRA left and right on here. Please tell us your plan to curb violence in this country. How do you feel about the 2nd amendment? Just curious.
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    Did the guns commit violence? Holy bat turds someone call George Norry. In other news knives have risen up around the world and have started killing all on their own. Run!!
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    @OhWiseOne He doesn't want to curb violence he wants to have a meeting about those guns that kill people all on their own. You know like cars, knives, bats. I think in his mind this is Transformer Movie and all of a sudden inanimate objects act on their own. Quick lets have a meeting about can openers and soda machines that are coming to life.
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    @OhWiseOne Criticizing the relentlessly self-serving behavior of the NRA has nothing to do with preserving the 2nd Amendment, which is in no danger at all.

    But in the weeks since Newtown and the months and years since Columbine, Virgina Tech, Aurora and uncounted others it has been to NRA's sole mission to stifle debate that just might find a realistic way to balance legitimate gun rights and protection of the innocent. I find this willingness to spend any number of other people's lives to preserve its political power and prerogatives one of the NRA's most despicable characteristics.
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    @cleverusername so... It isn't the gun, it's the shooter, but it isn't the player, it's the video game?
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    @kirbstomp1 Bears do NOT shit in the woods.... that's what the out house is for.... JEEZE I gotta teach you everything.
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    The NRA is exactly correct, the White House is conducting what is equivalent to a show trial for the low information public. anyone with any smarts knew that going in
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    I do not get the Assault Weapons and military style comments. Can someone PLEASE tell me what firearm is NOT an assault weapon? Military Style? That comment only indicate how the gun looks? Why all the grey areas, its a sham! They want an AR ban, but using those terms makes the whole ban have a very broad meaning. So with this wording they're banning a Scary looking firearm that can be used in an assault. All my guns fit that description.

    I conceal Carry, I am a Wife and a Mother and I am Protected!
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    The usual road to slavery is that first they take away your guns, then they take away your property, then last of all they tell you to shut up and say your enjoying it. James A Donald. People will think we are paraniod till their busting their doors down and grabbing everything from ak's to bb guns.
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    @paperdragons81 Yes I agree. I am not paranoid but yet I have been called paranoid in blog only, never in person. It puzzles my mind on how many people just blindly follow along. Most are obviously not at all educated on firearms, repeating the last scare tactic they heard as if it were gospel. One save in grace is most of our rural area citizens are still of sound mind when it comes to firearms and property. That's my plan B....head for the hills.
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    @ProCCW It is easier to blindly follow than it is to open your eyes and realize everything you believe in is wrong.

    There is a reason I live in Arkansas.
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    Goin after guns is the easy answer. Mental health is the issue, or the cause.
    A crazy person with a hammer could run into a crowded room and kill 10 people while they all stood there with deer in the headlights look on their face.
    A guy with a knife could kill 30+ before anyone did anything to stop him.
    A gun never killed anyone, people do that just fine, with or without a gun.
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    As everyone knows, the ability to hit a target makes anyone an expert on school safety, mental health issues, the marketing of violence to our kids and the collapse of federal prosecutions of violent criminals.
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    This was just a ruse by the administration to make it look like they were open to a real discussion when in reality they don't care what anyone says they will carry out their agenda no matter what. If they were serious it would go through a few years of real research, committees, public hearings etc.
    Did anyone expect anything different? Really?
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    Probably an honest assessment, at least from their point of view. The NRA doesn't represent all gun owners any more than AARP represents all retired people, however Joe Biden is probably one of the worst choices for a spokesperson that could be choosen.
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    In light of the fact that on average 11 teens die every single day as a result of texting while driving, guess it's time to do away with cell phones.
    Guess we better put and end to booze as well, booze making a person drink and that kills a lot of people too.
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    Absolutely Grif-so many people have their head in the sand over other deaths because it's not sensational on the news.
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    While we are banning booze I'd like to point out that there has never been a single recorded death from an overdose of Pot. Just sayin'
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    @MadAmerican agreed. A gun in the hands of a lunatic is a seriously deadly tool, no question. But a car driven by a lunatic is as well, or a lunatic with about 10 dollars in his pocket can walk in to any hardware store and by everything they needs to kill a multitude of people.
    Do away with guns is a lazy answer, it is a way to make ones self feel better for a while, but what happens when kids start making bombs and walking in to school, like the kid in Alabama who made his bombs from tobacco cans.
    Guess the tonacco cans made the kid do it.
    You heard the story about that lady, at home with her kids while dad was at work, when an intruder started beating on the door. Mom and kids ran and hid, the guy gets in, goes up stairs, opens the closet door and mom unloads her newly purchased 38 special in the guys chest and face.
    And that is exactly why, as I have said many times, if you want my guns come beat on the door and get them.
    (Said with a sh!t eatin grin on my face).
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    @Thegrif I heard about that lady. The news didn't give it too much attention, but I did see the police chief from the North East that was pissed that prisoners found out where all the cops live now thanks to that firearm list.
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    I'm surprised the NRA bothered showing up for Bozo's Circus. He and El Presidente' made it quite clear what THEY wanted to "discover."

    The photo heading this article is missing the talk balloon.... "OK... This is how it's going to be....."

    A Summit? Yeah right. Biden said it earlier in the week... " "Every once in a while, there's something that awakens the conscience of the country, and that tragic event did it in a way like nothing I've seen in my career."

    Translation... "we need to act fast before the blood of those poor murdered children coagulates and is less effective at greasing the skids of our political agenda."
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    Hunting and target practice were not cited as justification for the 2nd amendment by the framers. Self-defense and security of their life, property and liberty from criminals, invading armies, and a usurping federal government were the given reasons.

    Unfortunately, I don't think that clown LaPierre gets it and neither does Malarkey Joe...smh
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    @jamesmitchell I dont believe the right to protect ones life, family and property should ever be infringed upon but we dont need the guns lanza had
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    @SignifiedNBlue I understand where you're coming from, but I find it hard to find a good middle ground between defending the right to bear arms and banning certain types of guns, like the ones Adam Lanza.
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    I think this administration wants to do away with the second amendment. I don't
    blame the NRA, they know what this administration has set out to do... and all the
    criminals will have all the guns, criminals always find a way to get guns. Then the
    law abiding citizen will be a sitting duck, that's what they want.
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    Obama has his entire second term and it would seem suicidal for him to attempt to go to war against the 2nd Amendment especially without controlling both houses of Congress.

    Perhaps Obama feels somewhat invincible now that he’s won a second term?

    Or maybe he just wants to leave a second “stamp” on America (the first being Obamacare)?

    Only time will tell what sort of restrictions he can place on firearms using only Executive Orders but, as someone who considers himself a Conservative and not and Obama supporter I hope the president loses his political ass fighting to restrict firearm ownership.
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    It's just what I thought it would be. When Obama wants to do something, it doesn't matter to him what the people of this country thinks about it. I'm going to forgo a new car to buy more guns before that gets taken away from me. I have always been a responsible law abiding citizen. I just pray the Supreme Court does their job to uphold the constitution and puts Obama back in his place. Going against the constitution is an impeachable offense. I hope Obama remembers that. I used to always refer to him as President Obama. No more! He has lost my respect so badly that I no longer respect the office he holds. When he is gone, I will again respect the office unless the next president is this bad. I expect the constitution to uphold my rights! He refuses! The Supreme Court had better do their jobs to uphold the constitution. If not, there is going to be big trouble in this country, not just from conservatives or republicans. He is going to alienate a lot of Democrats too. The congress needs to remember that with a 2/3 vote in each chamber they can overturn the presidential decree.
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    How many children has Obama killed with his Drone strikes.. something like 168 INNOCENT CHILDREN. Here is an idea lets have a Drone Obama summit with the intention of banning Obama from coming anywhere near a weapon or an official office again.
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    I hate drone strikes and think they need to stop. That being said its a pretty safe bet that well over 168 innocent children have been killed by guns so lets not pretend that the comparison is relevant.
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    @Cheenoguy How is the comparison not relevant? Many Many countries and people think Obama or America killing innocent children and people are wrong and should be stopped. Some think any arms are bad. Some think that some countries shouldn't have weapons. Some people think some people shouldn't have weapons. Where is the line drawn as who gets weapons... who gets to defend themselves (outside our existing gun laws...criminals and the violent mentally ill) and those who don't. Only certain governments have a right to weapons? Which ones? Who decides that again? America is easily considered by the world violent and responsible for millions of innocent deaths.
    It is totally relevant and Obama is a hypocrite.
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    @cleverusername
    The conversation is about American gun laws and whether or not they should be more well regulated. Whether or not drones are the best way to about dealing with terrorists is not a relevant comparison to whether or not we should require a background check on any firearm purchase including gun shows and private sales. Nor is it a reasonable comparison to any of the other proposed measures.
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    @Cheenoguy Okay fair enough I get that you just don't get it at all.
    I am not sure I should try to enlighten you any more but....I will say....I never said if Drones were an appropriate or inappropriate way to deal with terrorists. Again many millions of people and Countries think America is warmongering and it's murderous ways should be stopped. Are they right? A government is not a moral authority as witnessed by thousands of years of history showing otherwise including what Obama now does. So a government has a right to defend and kill at leisure as long as THEY say it is okay. But a individual cannot defend his home and family? Nobody is saying that households needs drones but firearms is their right... our right. Who is protecting that individual, home and family? The government drone strikes in another country? A police force that is what like one police officer to a thousand people in some areas?
    By your logic The United States would not pass it's own background check and shouldn't be allowed to have any weapons. Makes no sense. Again Obama is a hypocrite.
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    @cleverusername
    How about this cappy? Show me one piece of serious legislation being discussed where you couldn't have a gun to defend your family? I mean presuming that you haven't been declared mentally unfit to carry a firearm by a court or been convicted of a felony.
    Yes the drone strikes are morally unacceptable. Is the rate of civilian casualties lower or higher then a normal bomb being dropped? I would bet lower. Yes governments (including ours) have done horrible things in war. That's irrelevant to whether or not you should have background check to get a gun or that shouldn't things shouldn't be owned by civilians.
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    This is a quote by John f Kennedy about guns and freedom. Today, we need a nation of minutemen, citizens who not only are prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom.
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    Much different than idealogy of the current president, he actually supported freedom and the 2nd amendment. I been reading a lot about history and freedom lately.
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