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    "A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."
    -- George Washington
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    When has athe armed US citizenry actually ever actually prevented tyranny by their gov't? the US gov;t has tyrannized its citizens at times and it was usually the people with arms that helped them.

    how's that workin' for ya?
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    @woodtick57 people have become complacent, the think it's the governments responsibility to run their lives for them, so they don't see it as tyranny, thus you won't see an uprising until things get really really insane....and as pathetic as this nation has become, maybe not even then.
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    @woodtick57 militias currently have been placed on a watch list by the current administration so obviously they are a concern. As for their purpose they "should" be a means by which we can keep the governments in check....hopefully the will be again.
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    Call it whatever you like, it's still nothing more than pissing all over the constitution and making law abiding citizens more vulnerable. Logic, statistics, and facts don't support these idiots so they have to rely on emotion and propaganda.
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    Spot on. Do they really think that thugs and gangbangers care about universal background checks or registering their weapons? No. They want law abiding citizens disarmed so that they are easier to control. It's what this whole thing is about. CONTROL of you, your life, your wealth, your property, etc.....
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    Today,we need a nation of minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom. JFK.
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    @woodtick57 why this obssesion with facts and details? Have you forgotten the how politix works? No facts are permitted in any debate, those asking for them are out of line!
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    @woodtick57 I gave an example on another tread, of free Americans cititzens fought for our independence from britain. I think is a great example of American's standing up to oppresive govervment.
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    You can pass all the gun laws you want. I know two things.1.) Gun laws won't stop lunatics or gang bangers. 2.) You're not taking my guns.
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    In the wake of the Taft California shooting now they will go for it and write an executive order to ban shotguns and bullies too. Once you ban guns Crazies will start to use knifes like they do in china schools stabbing kids that seems to happen all the time in china. Then they need to ban everything from rocks, sticks, bats, knifes, fists. prosthetic legs in arms, chairs anything that can be used as a weapon. Then they need to write an executive order banning free speech so nobody can complain about it, that is when all of us will be safe? As you can see weapon bans on Mexico is working only 50,000 dead from guns with their ban in place in 6 years. Then we can just ask the bad guys to give back the guns that Obama gave to drug lords in mexico and al Qaeda in Libya in Syria. I'm sure they will obey the executive order from the white house. Oh wait maybe not they did kill Ambassador Stevens and his gun running operation in Benghazi that was shipping guns from Libya to Syria. Odd white house trying to ban guns rights in the USA to disarm Americans then behind Americans backs the white house gives guns and tax payer moneys to the bad guys that they used to kill the ambassador in Libya, a US border patrol agent Brian Terry (that was armed with a bean bag gun vs. a real Obama fast and furious gun) and kill infidel Christians in Syria. So it's OK for the bad guys to own guns just not Americans. Makes you think and scratch your head knowing the Constitution defines treason as specific acts, namely "levying War against [the United States], or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. Keep your rights its all you got, your not getting anymore and after their gone the only right you will have is to Obey.
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    Well, in certain school, they have banned tag, they have banned dodge ball, they have banned other things that normal children would do because they might get hurt...
    The concept of a God Jesus Holy Spirit worshipping, Bible reading and following, self-governing free society and country escapes progressive liberals on so many levels it is hard to know where to start to even address them on any kind of ground that might make some kind of sense...common or sensible or otherwise...
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    Republicans were always great at winning debates by picking good labels "death tax," "pro-life," death panel" etc. this is another example. gun control advocates will look silly, a safe gun would not be able to kill anyone, everyone knows gun safety is not the issue.
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    All guns can kill in the wrong hands. If it was about safety they'd simply seek to ban all guns because the only safety is one's brain. It's not about safety. In fact its more about control than it is guns. Hence the push to call it "safety". Its easier to fool people this way.
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    Gun safety is either the little button or switch on the side of a firearm that prevents it from being fired accidentally, or gun handling discipline that stops you from pointing your weapon at a person you don't intend to shoot. Try another term, like maybe "gun entitlements".
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    Just heard this one:

    Did you hear about the new handgun from Ruger? It's called the Congressman - it won't work and you can't fire it.
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    Did you hear about this one? Senate amendment 3276, Sec. 2716part c.

    According to reports, that amendment says the government cannot collect "any information relating to the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition."

    It's part of our "healthcare bill" that we needed to pass so we could see whats inside. Our elected officials continue to pass on to us things they haven't a clue about.
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    @Medicinebow ^^from what I am reading this may only be under the context of the healthcare bill and between doctors and patients and limited to just that provision.
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    How about we reconstitute the militia. Every natural born male and female (got to keep with the times and treat everyone fairly) between 18 and 40 is automatically in the militia. Gym class in school can be used for physical training and marksmanship. On their 18th birthday, every citizen is given a state issue rifle they must maintain. The standing army will still be used for conflicts, but maybe we'll be less inclined to involve ourselves internationally if everyone has training. We could drop the reserve corps also. I think it would bring together communities. Works in Switzerland anyway.
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    Here is the current legal definition of "militia" in Title 10, Section 311, of the United States Code:

    (a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

    (b) The classes of the militia are—

    (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

    (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
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    @bambi33 kind of my point. If we were all part of the organized militia, there would be no confusion about the "well regulated" part of the second amendment.
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    Statists always use inoccuous words to hide their true intentions. This is a perfect example. Statists wrap their tyranny in warm comfortable words that are only clearly understood when exposed to the brutality of the forced labor camps.

    How many Russians, Chinesse, N. Koreans were suckered in to their hell by words of Fairness, greedy rich and worker rights?

    A liberal must at all costs conceal their true intentions with warm and misrepresented words.
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    @tomincali I don't care to differentiate between the useful idiots and the conspirators anymore, they are both enemies just the same.
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    One has to wonder who the PR firm was that dreamed this up, must be the same one BP is employing that insists the Gulf is just fine and to come visit.
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    http://www.humanevents.com/2011/02/15/223-rem...

    If anyone knows a gun control knucklehead...please pass this link along. It explains quite nicely how an AR-15 can fire either a 5.56 NATO or a .223 Remington. Why is it important? Because the gun control people are focusing on the gun itself. I would not have a problem with the ban of 5.56 NATO since it is flesh and not a kill round..223 can be used for legit hunting and sport shooting.

    As for psychos shooting up schools? I'll let Big Pharma field that question.
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    What's the difference between a well regulated militia to keep the govt in check and a terrorist organization? I mean, hasn't the GOP passed the Patriot Act to ensure that anyone who even thinks about attacking the govt can be stripped of their 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendment rights?
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    No, they passed it so anyone, regardless of what they think, are deprived of the 4th, 5th and 6th amnd rights. In all fairness the democrats had as much to do with it as the republicans.
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    @PoliticalSpice That's true, especially since Obama could have easily vetoed it the 2nd time. It's a travesty.
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    @max-parrish Only because he had to continue what bush started, though I am critical of Obama in this area as well, we should be doing more for world peace.
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    What is it with the progressive liberals and their incessant redefinitions of anything and everything under the sun...
    They've redefined evil as good and good as evil...
    This more of the same of their political correct sleight of hand...
    It is about gun control...if it was about safety they would be addressing the mental issue first...because this is where the real problem is...
    Then again...when the asylum of congress controlled by progressive liberalism {Michael Savage wrote a book called Liberalism Is Mental Disorder} is trying to control and drive the debate what else can happen?
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    You ever felt like killing somebody--- that's why I never owned a firearm-now I would never conceive of harming anyone- unless your and 8 pointed buck- now they go good with rice and gravy
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