• #1
    As much as I think something has to change, I'm leery about the actions he may take. With things in place like the Patriot Act and NDAA 12, wire taps, etc... This is another step towards tyranny.
    The People shouldn't fear their government, a government should fear it's People.
  • #2
    Depends. I would use executive order to require agencies to share information one mentally ill applicants (no way in hell that guy in Aurora should have been able to buy all that stuff nor the guy in Arizona). I don't have a problem with requiring universal background checks. Or limiting the size of clips. Or studies to see how gun violence affects America. But you are not going to stop things like the Newtown shooting and you are not going to take my AR-15 and there are hundreds of thousands of them out here and you're not going to get them either. It's time to enforce the gun laws we have and stop pretending that passing more makes a damn bit of difference when what we have is not enforced.
  • #7
    Once again...we agree. Like I said before, NO one thing (ie...gun control) will stop these shootings from taking place. It's going to require a combination of things to lessen the chances....and that will only lessen them, not eliminate them! Spot on!!
  • #8
    @DARSB Well at one time I thought it might but after owning business locations in what can be described as "ghetto's" for 30 years I have come to the conclusion that the people who shouldn't have guns are not going to sell back their guns. The only value I can see in a buy back is that these are guns that might not be stolen later. And here is my quandary. The people with legal guns in urban America need those guns to protect themselves from the home invasion thugs (very common in L.A.) with illegal guns. I have guns. I still have my CCL from when I owned a business. But I never carry. My guns are for home protection. I'm not giving them up. At age 66 I'm too old to fight.
  • #11
    @jessejaymes A buy back program seems to only get the legal and "unwanted" guns. Remember that buyback that recently took place. Had a "rocket launcher" trainer (believe was a 9mm) turned in. That had to be strictly a military item and from what I know, the military doesn't sell these things. So, how did it get to a private owner? And, what else is in the hands of the private sector. Wouldn't want to be a cop in cities like L.A., Chicago, N.Y......etc!
  • #15
    @stepped_in_it Dude this a true story. years ago a guy walked in my store with a frigging laws rocket wanting to sell it. Where the hell does a civilian get a laws rocket? I pretended to need an hour to get the money, called a cop I knew and his ass was busted.

    On another front, in L.A. they busted an illegal Mexican for having a baby elephant in a storage shed and he was trying to sell it. They ran the zoo's of America and nobody was missing a baby elephant. So that elephant was brought into this country illegally. How do you do that? There is no point in banning guns. We can't stop a frigging elephant from strolling across the border.
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  • #10
    The minute he signs those executive orders is the minute impeachment procedures should begin. He's clearly overstepping his authority as president. He is not our Lord, our king, or our dictator and someone should remind him of that.
  • #17
    Where were you when King George I used HIS executive order power to ban specific firearms after the Stockton, CA school shooting? Or Clinton's executive orders banning certain imported weapons back in '98 and '01?
  • #44
    @OhWiseOne - Twinertia is asking a very good question. Did you call for GW Bush's impeachment after his executive gun control order? Or Clinton's for the same reason? I'd really like to know. Also please bear in mind that Obama has yet to issue any executive orders, so let's not get ahead of ourselves.
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  • #47
    The net is being dropped over everyone and they don't even know it. Support your local NRA and vote against anybody having anything to do with gun control bans. You want back ground and mental health records fine. But if any of you think it's ok for them to tell you, you can't have an assault rifle or high capacity clips then you really don't understand why you even have a second amendment.
  • #32
    "This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future."
    - Adolf Hitler
  • #53
    Guess you missed out on history class huh? The Nazi regime actually decreased gun regulation. It wouldn't have mattered if they didn't. The Germans wanted the NAZIs in power.
  • #66
    You do that the NAZIs were right wingers right? Socialism is to the left.

    And I know this is hard for you to understand but gun regulation is not socialism.
  • #70
    @Cheenoguy ... Actually both NAZIsim and Fascism are end results of Socialism... They are as Far Left as you can get....

    Socialism cannot work except as a Theory... Once put into place Reality comes into play as those implementing control required meet a large portion of the population that refuse to give up what they consider Theirs for the good of the community. At some point Totalitarian Control must be implemented by a centralized authority to quell the populace when they find the Theory does not match the Reality and NAZIism and Fascism (Totalitarian Control) are born.....

    "When you give your Individual Power to a Government you Adore do not be surprised when that power is used by a Government you Abhor" - Q
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  • #93
    Should something be done, yes. Quick fixes, tend to break badly.
    Which is why, our deliberative body should actually talk to each other and com up with something everyone can stomach.
  • #90
    When is Mr. Obama going to start wearing double lightning bolts for a tie tack publicly. Can all liberals move to California so the San Andreas fault will give and float off into the sunset. Sorry to any real Americans that happen to live in that state.
  • #89
    I wish the POTUS was as interested in guns lost in the Fast & Furious scandal as he is in trying to use the tragedy at Sandy Hook to push his anti-gun agenda. Guns are inanimate objects. Guns don't kill people. People do. More people are killed every year by drunk drivers than by illegal guns. Why not ban cars or gasoline? It makes just as much sense as trying to ban guns or high capacity magazines.
  • #82
    President Obama is talking about making 19 unconstitutional executive orders? One man is expanding the role of the presidency and overpowering the legislature to pass law by his own hand? Obama has so much of the country so spellbound that they can't see the writing on the wall just like the German people under Hitler.

    “For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future.”--Adolf Hitler

    This is the definition of tyranny. If he tries to disarm America it will no doubt end up in bloodshed. How American lives is it worth to disarm the country yet allow the rate of violent crimes to triple? I hope other people join me in protest, I'll joining whatever groups amass to defend our Bill of Rights.
  • #78
    I'd rather he didn't, but I can certainly understand why he would want to.
    Can he put clones of military issue weapons under the 1934 National Firearms Act by exec order?
  • #65
    Obama needs to tread lightly. Some actions might need further debate to convince Congress and the American people. Everyone should agree on these:

    "requiring federal agencies to improve the sharing of mental health records, directing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to conduct research on gun violence, and strengthening enforcement of existing laws"

    These actions should not be up for debate as they seem like common sense solutions.
  • #34
    Just because Obama got his checker to the other side doesn't mean he gets to make the rules now.

    Two outcomes:
    1. We wait 2 years for all of these extraconstitutional actions to be dismissed by the Supreme Court (barring any Executive = Legislative misinterpretations from our chief)
    2. We all just ignore them from the get go.
  • #31
    Only if he removes firearms from the Secret Service and Washington PD. Let's take them away from the Bloomberg and Cuomo armed posse as well. Funny how people who want to restrict guns are armed to the hilt. How about leading by example?
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