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  • #116
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    @InjusticeSucks Why? So he can be just another yammering drone who has to pick a side? Get back to me when he wants to do something important to everyone, like grabbing both parties by the short hairs on the economy.
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    @Real4WheelDrv um... what he's saying is much more important than the present economy... it effects the future generations of the world... not just this few minutes. the economy is just fine so you can stop panicking now.
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    @John_Matrix
    God is the only answer. Jesus said, I am the way, the truth, and the life. Jesus is King and God is Creator, and the Holy Spirit is a wonder devine thing. I love them all as one!
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    So, Darwin isn't a relic; a disproven, unreliable, archaic bunch of nonsense? Modern knowledge of cellular and sub-molecular make up proves Darwin was an uniformed NOVICE.

    Further, please explain the theory of Intelligent Design; an atheistic framework that posits the idea that data and information are programmed in our DNA, placed there by some civilization or beings far more advanced than us.

    Modern, devoutly atheistic scientists are speaking out in support of the theory in droves.
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    If creationism is ousted wherever goverment is involved, would this eventually rescind tax exempt status for all religions? Do i see a plan in the making?
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    @jessejaymes How about we look at all charitable organizations administration cost as compared to their benifitse provided to establish a fair tax exempt status as related to the good they do. No more 100% free tax exempt conduits?
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    @marine1 Tax exempt status for soup kitchens, food panties and hospitals that are managed by religious institutions are one thing. Using tax money to support serial pedophiles and political entities like the westboro baptist church, christian right groups involved in political matters and and teaching religion in place of science is something else completely.
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    There's way too many religious doctors etc. out there to think his effort would save a whole bunch of possibly ruined careers. That's kind of over the top thing to say. It's amazing how people can compartmentalize their scientific thinking.

    But still I would say his mission certainly can't hurt. I support.
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    It's funny how Creationists speak with confident authority on topics they go out of their way to know nothing about.
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    Every event has a cause. The universe did not accidentally occur. Neither did life which is so complicated that it's occurring accidentally is so astronomically improbable that it is impossible, thus evolution is equally astronomically improbable.
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    Very bad statistical thinking. When a surprising event takes place I often hear someone say, "Gee, what are the odds?"

    Well, since you just saw it take place, obviously the odds are 100%.

    And since we're in the middle of flu season, and the virus has evolved yet again requiring a new vaccine... draw your own conclusion.
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    @SAS86 Yes, the chances of life coming about are "slim", but when you think of the BILLIONS and BILLIONS of planets out there, that's billions an billions of trials for everything to line up and allow life to come into being.
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    Hey Politix....was your purpose to make our brains hurt today?! Wow, been working all the "big" issues...I think it's bedtime
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    Right wingers always want to criticize the wasting of public money, but want to use public school funds to forward their unconstitutional religious adgenda.
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    @Berg34 First the phrase "one nation under god" is not a constitutional principle, the constitution makes very clear that religious activity should not be required by government, this is clear by article VI as well as the establishment clause of the first amendment.

    People are compelled by law to pay taxes which support public schools, children are required by law to attend such schools. And teaching of religious beleifs in place of science is the promotion of religion by government, which the establihment clause prohibits...
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    @PoliticalSpice the establishment clause is too ensure that we are not a. one denominational country not to make the only denomination atheism
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    Unless we break the back of organized religion (which is the single greatest threat to the continued existence of the human race) we will die off as a species. I figure we might have 100 or so years left, barring the use of weapons of mass destruction.

    Religion is 100 times worse than any horrible disease.
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    Religion has no place in the public schools. Creationism has no place in a science curriculum, simply because it is not science based. Want religion taught to your kids in school, go to a private school.
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    Yeah, and now the Vatican has one of the most well equipped science labs in the world. But we'll just gloss over that fact since even though they are trying to advance SCIENCE, they are doing it in the name of religion.
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    @Real4WheelDrv What does the Vatican have to do with this?? I already know that Catholics accept the theory of Evolution. What I meant by my earlier post is that I can see parallels between the close-minded Church of Copernicus's day and the Creationists of today.

    "But we'll just gloss over that fact since even though they are trying to advance SCIENCE, they are doing it in the name of religion."

    Well the Vatican (and by extension, the Catholic Church) doesn't have an official position on Evolution that I know of. But they do accept that faith and human evolution are not in conflict.
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    And you do realize that is the Catholic Church not the Christian church and of you don't know the difference then read up
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    What did he think was being taught in private Christian schools? A 19 year old does not have the education, maturity or life experience to be taken so seriously. There are parents that send their kids to private Christian schools just for this matter alone. They believe in Creation, so that is what they want their kids to learn. They do not believe in the basic theory of evolution. If the public schools were to stick to proven facts about evolution, parents might take their kids out of private schools. When I was in school. The theory of evolution included that humans crawled out of what they called the primordial soup or sludge. They also taught that humans evolved from apes. I do not believe these things. I do believe in adaption of species. This has been proven. If they would stick to family fact, not just theory, I would have no problem. But if they insist on teaching the whole theory, then they should also feel it's okay to teach what they call the (theory) of creation. Theories have not been proven as fact by scientists. They are teaching evolution as if it were proven as fact in every way. Did you know they have proven Creation in some areas? I know I am going to be asked to prove it. I don't have access to my books at this time. We just moved and there are too many boxes to go through. I have the flu and the bookcases are not here yet. I hardly wait. Some of tbe books for school are lost in the piles in our garage!
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    Might as well be teaching them about the migration habits of unicorns and crystals necessary to protect yourself against dragon attacks. There is no place for that mess in science class but I see no harm in discussing for instance medieval christianity and the crusades in history class. My guess is christians really don't want to talk about its real history and keep the focus on the bible parts.
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    Everybody knows unicorns stick to waterways, and follow pretty maidens.
    Er.. I don't like those particular Crystals, the NCA (national crystal asociety) should be ashamed of proposing to teach their use in schools!!
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    I don't see how anyone can expect parochial schools to teach a secular education. Americans have a Constitutional right to live mired in religious delusion.
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    I am the product of a Roman Catholic parochial education. Darwin was the star of the biology classes I was required to take, in fact, Sister Marie had a picture of him in the lab.

    But that was in the day when education was valued for itself and "liberal arts" was a perfectly acceptable, non-political term.
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    I think the issue he has is that these schools are receiving taxpayer money (through vouchers), therefore should not be teaching creationism or anti-evolution beliefs.
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    @DomesticG yeah that's his issue.
    but then again some of us have issues with people getting tax dollars on there eBet cards in going in spending the money at strip clubs.... maybe somebody should start a crusade against them.
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    @DARSB For some reason, many people equate evolution with atheism, even though Charles Darwin trained to be a clergyman.
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    @bsking I take issue with my tax money buying people sodas, energy drinks, chips, candy, bakery birthday cakes....
    Anyways...don't poor peeps need a good lap dance now and again??:P see what Politix has accomplished today?? Envisioning govt-funded booty shaking...not to be confused with politicians showing their ass--totally different.
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    All three schools listed in the article are private, Christian schools. So, he's on a crusade to take Christian teaching out of Christian schools? Because if he's against Creationism in public schools, I've got no problem with that. But he ought leave private schools alone. And, of course, private schools better stay out of everyone else's shit, too. Anyhow, those schools listed are private, for a reason: to be able to teach their own curriculum, without hassle.
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    Religion and science do not co-exist, religion is dogma and science is rational, discipline thought, study and conclusion making. The fundamental weakness of religion is that the religious cannot define, describe, or provide a reasonable hypothesis for their God. I have been asking for any of the three from the highest levels of any religion I can find for years, and no one has provided it. They always like to start with what they think the God did or does, they never want to start at what God is. The fact that God is invisible, silent, and unavailable to all news sources should be a strong clue as to it's mythological status.
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