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    I don't understand how gerrymandering is legal. It's a gross practice to ensure the govt is represented by people the party's choose, not who the people choose. All districts should be redrawn by population by an independent 3rd party.
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    @Raptor Unfortunately it's not and, surprise surprise, when one party has power they don't want to get rid of the practice because they would be giving up power. They also don't want it because then they might have actual competition to get into Congress, maybe even w/ competing ideas instead of only worrying about the primary because the other party can't possibly win given the make up of the district. It's a big reason for our polarization.
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    @AceLuby Actually the polarization has more to do with the fact that in reality we only have one party with two sides. Despite what they say the actual differences between the two sides based on their actions is negligible. Both sides really only have one goal and that is maintaining their power.
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    @AceLuby I totally agree. That is why I refuse to vote for anyone with an R or D by their name. I'd prefer to see an L but I'LLC take an I as long as they are pro freedom and anti government.
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    Yes, Neo, the GOP is bragging about their success in rigging the election by redrawing districts in their favor. It is not an exaggeration. Politicians of both main parties do despicable things in order to retain power.
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    @Neo_NtheMatrix True, true. I will remember that. A not so wise man once told me that life was like a sh%t sandwich, the more bread you have the less sh%t you have to eat.
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    So, I'm supposed to be bent because manipulative politicians are bragging about being manipulative politicians? In other, and oddly related news: Fiber helps with poopin'! Yawn.
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    @Neo_NtheMatrix D.C. isn't that constipated, look at all the worthless *^%# that flows out of it every day. It just needs a change in diet, starting by reducing the pork.
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    Gerrymandering is only a problem when the Republicans get to use it to their advantage. When the Democrats get to do it, it is somehow their divine birthright and the press never complains. I have been watching this hypocrisy for 50 years. It's a fact, both parties use gerrymandering to their advantage and always have. The fact that someone got their hands on a Republican memo means only that the Democrats have done a better job of shredding theirs.
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    Gerrymandering is wrong no matter who is doing it. The GOP being the shortsighted people that they are don't realize that what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Everyone of the GOP districts has thinner margins of victory. The more they gerrymander the easier it is to flip the district. The changing demographics of the country means that there will be fewer and fewer republicans and more and more democrats. This means that these GOP districts are going to start falling like a house of cards by about 2020. When this happens the dems can either gerrymander in their own favor or if they are smart create the districts in a fair way. Either way the dems will win majorities and the GOP will be a minority party for years to come until the dems get too cocky and screw it up.
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    I agree. Both sides do it. Letting a party in control gerrymander districts in a state is like letting a pro sports team that won the championship have the first five draft picks in the next player draft. Simply not a democracy. I oppose gerrymandering regardless of party doing it. Districts should not exist. Senators are "at large" in a state and so should House reps be. Run a laundry list election
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    Just shows how the republican party no longer represents freedom and democracy, only an evil form of government much like the NAZI party under Hitler!
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    On their "About Us" page, it states: "The party controlling that effort controls the drawing of the maps – shaping the political landscape for the next 10 years. In 38 states, governors and state legislators play a determining role in the redistricting process." Funny, I don't recall the Constitution stating that a PARTY draws the district lines... and it also does not state that the purpose of redistricting is to make one party stronger... Freakin' partisan power-mongers! Oligarchy is alive and well in our gov't. Partisans have successfully destroyed our republican form of gov't and replaced it with statism.
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    @DogLady_1 Essentially yes, since bashing one for doing something the other does is blatant favoritism. This do as we say not as we do crap is part of the sickness in our politics, and very few people are willing to admit when both sides do something wrong.
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    @Real4WheelDrv - and when it comes to partisanship, the only people a partisan will listen to is one in their own party... and their own party members aren't chewing them out for their egregious acts, they think everyone approves... and indeed all their members are complicit if they don't call out the wrongdoers.

    "One of the expedients of party to acquire influence within particular districts is to misrepresent the opinions and aims of other districts. You cannot shield yourselves too much against the jealousies and heartburnings which spring from these misrepresentations; they tend to render alien to each other those who ought to be bound together by fraternal affection..." George Washington
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    Gerrymandering is done by BOTH parties, so this is no "gotcha" story. My Congressional District in New Mexico has included the majority Conservative Eastern side of the State and included it with the Liberal Albuquerque area. This basically nullifies Eastern New Mexico's Conservative voice, giving the seat, that would clearly go to a Conservative to a Liberal. Gerrymandering at it's finest. Political parties should NOT have this kind of control.
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    stories like this make me laugh - if Americans actually knew how deep the corruption in government ran they would be scared out of their minds. the exposed stuff is child's play.
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    I think it's sad that a political party in america can cheat, lie and suppress voters and promote communism and get away with it all. today's Republican Party is nothing of what it use to be republicans have caused a deep recession kept us in a deep recession and are preventing any kind of real recovery. how people could vote for a repube is beyond me
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    Do liberals understand that the only reason there are any stories at all about gerrymandering is because reoublicans got to do it more than democrats... this time...

    From the memo that Lisa seems to think is "bragging."

    "The only analogous election in recent political history in which this aberration has taken place was immediately after reapportionment in 1972, when Democrats held a 50 seat majority in the U.S. House of Representatives while losing the presidency and the popular congressional vote by 2.6 million votes."
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    The card dealer brags that the winner won because the deck was stacked! Pretty Damned low. Actually, down right corrupt.
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    It's a pity that they don't get as organized and work as hard at actually doing something worthwhile now that they have the House majority. Otherwise, they should change their name to the RepubliCAN'T Party.
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    "The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny." --James Madison
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    "State elections can have a big impact on a political party’s performance in future federal elections, not only by building a strong “bench” and strengthening party infrastructure, but also through the decennial redistricting process. As the largest caucus of Republican state-level officeholders, the RSLC understands the importance of this. "

    Ohio has is "red" because the districts are set up so the state house is proportions correctly. Notice how the gimmedaters and the communists are packed into the cities while the rest of the state is red? In a national election, outside the cities don't matter but in a state situation they do matter because they get representation. They don't nationally because the president and senate are decided by the gimmedators and communists in the cities. But those "po-dunk" counties are reason why the GOP has a majority in the House. They are disregarded by the president and senate, but not in the house.

    The GOP might be bragging, but understand the math and WHY the House is representative of all people. Not just gimmedators and communists like the president and senate.
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    Gerrymandering is a tried and true tactic used by both parties. But it doesn't help at all if the candidates are running on platforms the voters can't accept - see the red states that Mr Obama carried in November for examples.
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