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    This goes both ways, any gun or ammo manufacturer that supports these tyrants or their gun grabbing schemes won't see one cent from me or the millions of civilians who buy their products.
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    tyrants? gun grabbing schemes? where the hell is that happening? there's nobody in the world who is trying to take away your toys.

    grow up.
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    Sounds like a good way to end up with crappy, undependable weapons in the hands of police officers. The police department of any city should be evaluating weapons based on overall performance, quality, and value and choosing accordingly. This is childish and will lead to yet more corruption on the part of politicians eager to pad their bankrolls with "gifts" from gun manufacturers. smh ...
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    You have to remember that politician are childish untrustworthy crybabies and will always try to take their toys somewhere else if they can't have their selfish little ways.
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    The Democratic Party is un-American to the core. They hate the Founding Fathers, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights (except for snivel rights), guns, white people, babies, etc.. Next thing you know they will declare war on mothers and apple pie.
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    @OhWiseOne An even bigger problem is that it is getting harder to tell the two apart. Rino & Dino, god help us all.
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    @OhWiseOne What party pushed forward the Patriot Act and NDAA 12 again? Hmm... according to the Senate and House pages it was the Republican Party.
    It was introduced by Rep. Howard “Buck” McKeon [R-CA25] and took the majority of Republican votes in both the Senate and the House.
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-201...
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-201...
    Patriot Act was introduced by Rep. James Sensenbrenner Jr.[R-WI9]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/107-200...
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/107-200...

    I've seen your posts and you are very quick to point out the Democrat's additions to bills that seem to be against the Constitution's guaranteed rights, but you tend to ignore it when the GOP does the same damn thing. Why is that? Anyone that is truly an Independent voter, as you claim to be, would not only be able, but willing to point out the faults of both parties. I'm thinking its because you are not what you claim to be.
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    @OhWiseOne I find both parties repulsive but the un-American speech and hatred towards this nation and her people has been coming from the right far more than the left. Oddly enough that increase in vitriol and inability to "take any more" can be traced right back to '08 and the election of Barack O'bama as president. And while I'm no democrat, I am planning a sneak attack on an apple pie I saw loitering in the kitchen earlier. I have full confidence in the success of this plan and if apple pie's ally vanilla ice cream is found near the battlefield, contingencies have been made for a full scale attack on it as well.
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    I'm not surprised at the vote percentage here. The majority do not favor cities asking for gun safety from manufacturers but many of the same people do support a guy firing people that he THINKS may have supported obama. I'm not a hypocrite. These cities spent tons of money on weapons. They have a right. EVERY right.
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    Yes they do have every right. But they also have a responsibility to both their constituents and their employees to provide the best equipment that is the best value. IMO making purchasing decisions based on politics is a breech of the public trust.
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    @jessejaymes

    I was referring to the gun purchases. Are we looking at the same thread? I've noticed some other posts that appear misplaced. I'm seeing this on "Democratic Mayors to Start Grading Gun Manufacturers"
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    @Thunderchicken As I recall you're a conservative, right? You do believe in states rights, correct? So if a State demands that the gun manufacturers in their state mount a gun safety program within that state in order to be able to sell to that state then you'd no problem with that right? That's a state's right isn't it? And if no American gun manufacturer would do it and the State went to Beratta or a foreign manufacturer which would do it then why shouldn't they?

    The bible belts basically is saying they won't honor any gun laws while Obama is President and they will arrest any Federal officer who enforces those laws in their state. Is that OK with you? Seems more logical to me that states who do value gun safety not only have the right but the Obligation to use their buying power to help with gun problems. I have ZERO problems with California's gun laws. Just because the bible belt who has more crime per capita than California wants to be Wyatt Earp one and all doesn't mean that I want to be a part of that.
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    @Thunderchicken You're ducking the question. You said you don't want cities to base gun purchases on their politics. Yet in related news all you right wingers are backing the guy in utah for firing two workers for "possibly being Obama backers". How does that work in the right wing world? States should have no rights if you're opposed but can do any damn thing they please as long as you agree?
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    The most popular service weapon with police officers that I have met is manufactured by Glock, which is based in Austria. I don't know how American Mayors can rate a foreign gun manufacturer's stance on American laws, and I think that the cops whose lives depend on their weapons should be the ones who choose which ones to invest in, not politicians.
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    Political considerations sound like a good way to put inferior products in the hands of law-enforcement officers. We have too much politics involved in police departments selecting their guns already. Officers should have the best product regardless of manufacturers legal and Constitutional positions on gun regulations.
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    Another Stupid idea... The Only thing that should matter is the quality, workmanship, reliability and if the weapons fit the need of the departments... Using such Political Motivation to supply firearms for officers place those officers in danger... There are Crap firearms being manufactured by some companies and if a officer is required to carry a POS gun and it hangs, misfires because some Idiot Politician that has no idea what firearms the officers require then they should be beat in the head with the POS gun... The Only people that should be making the choice of weapon for a department is the Department who bet their lives on them....
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    I certainly would not feel safe knowing the officers in my town had weapons chosen by hack politicians angry at certain private companies for not supporting them. Talk about not living in reality. The officers could (and would) end up with junk.
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    Dollars to donuts the people upset by that would be so proud if Republican mayors got together and said they weren't going to buy equipment for the fire department from any company that gave spouse benefits to gay partners of employees. They be yelling at us for being upset screaming "it's the free market and you can't stifle their beliefs."
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    Dollars to donuts you are absolutely 100% accurate. Government oversteps its bounds when its something you don't believe in, and doesn't do enough when its something you do. That's the mindset that most people have. Sad.
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    hey i know,lets let a bunch of pansy type politicians decide for the law enforcement what the best weapons and ammo are due to 2nd grade mentality of revenge purchasing liberals...way to get even at others expense
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    Sentence taken from Politico: "He continued:“It’s especially galling, paying money from our police departments to produce loopholes that allow illegal handguns into my communities that could be used against police officers.”

    Isn't this doublespeak? If there is a loop hole that permits legal purchase then how is it an "illegal" handgun?
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    I have asked the same question for a long time. How does a gun become illegal that has been made legally ? Most every gun has numbers & recorded From maker to dealer to purchaser
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    Headline grabbing Political Hacks. The only thing that should determine their selection of firearms IS OFFICIAL TESTS CONDUCTED BY THE US DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE as how firearms scored under actual duty conditions and simulated duty conditions. After that little box is checked off, BUY AMERICAN. Lay off the Beretta MP92 pistols, the Heckler and Koch MP5s submachine guns used by SWAT Units, the Austrian Glock pistols, etc.
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    If you look at statistics, some of the most violent cities are controlled by the Dems. Detroit, Oakland, and New Orleans are just a few.
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    Why don't they ignore the present political control agenda & deal with the facts. With apologies to my Dem. friends & all the other Dem. moderates & conservatives who know it's all about controlling the people - not guns. It appears to me we should join the current hysteria and suggest that the evidence shows that all registered Democrats weapons should be confiscated. We know who they are-~ they're registered!

    Why is it that none of the disturbed and evil men, who steal guns, then go and kill
    movie-goers and children in school, has ever been identified as a conservative
    NRA member ??

    Ft Hood~~~ Registered Democrat ~ Muslim

    Columbine ~~~ Too young to vote; both families were registered Democrats and progressive liberals.

    Virginia Tech ~~~ Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff ~ Registered Democrat .

    Colorado Theater ~~~ Registered Democrat; staff worker on the Obama campaign; Occupy Wall Street participant; progressive liberal .

    Connecticut School Shooter-~~~ Registered Democrat; hated Christians,

    Common thread is that all of these shooters were progressive liberal Democrats." Were they all crazy or just working to bring about that socialist gun control agenda ?INTERESTING, isn't it ? Don't spew personal 'feelings'- just state facts .
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    As history has proven...it repeats itself. This happened in the '90s. It brought Colt and S&W to their knees when both companies bowed down to support the Clinton bans. This is also the time when the single most despised handgun of the Dems, you know, the "plastic gun that will not go off in a metal detector", the Glock became standard police issue. The LEOs on the ground as well as the soldiers in the field, they are the ones that need to at least be heard from when arms are chosen.
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