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  • #5
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    So now those of us who choose to live in small communities and rural ares have become ,"these people"? Clinton is a smart guy but I don't think he gets it either. All people in all areas want to feel safe in their homes and on the streets they walk. The large metropolitan areas are the showcases for violence, both with and without guns and the worst of these cities are controlled by democratic administrations that choose to ignore everything and anything as the cause, other than the gun.
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    Don't know how much more clear Bill could be. He is against gun control, and is encouraging Democrats to be likewise.
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    Here's some novel ideas for you.

    Every politician, no matter what party, thinks of you as 'these people'.
    No politician is on your side.
    No politician cares about you after the election.
    Until the next one.
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    @WMCOL Nowhere did Clinton imply that he is not agaist gun controll. What he said was don't voice your true opinions on the subject like he did or it could cost you your job.
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    Sorry Clinton, but your sincere concern's in regards to the TEA PARTY becoming reinvigorated is past tense. It's never stopped. Yes ''' the movement is quiet, and quite frankly Billy boy it's none of the lefts or your damn business. However, know this-- many new players are jumping on-board. Some who once "regrettably" were staunch supporter's of your's and actually have work with you and a few were on your payroll.

    and the stories being told about you and your connections with I l l uminati /B i l d e r berg's TSK, TSK !

    Obama needs to remember, just like with the liberals-- 190 million gun's and counting,
    be careful with all these false flag's, and "your arrogance" because if you push the American people into a civil war, it won't be just the civilian's kicking your sorry @$$'s but our Arm Forces wont tolerate your commie B.S. either. Yes, many are waking-up to the tyranny this country has succumb too. N W O gave us Obama, but not enough of you to stop us.......... We the People.
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    Thankfully you are wrong. There are fewer teabaggers in the House this term, and with any luck at all, after the 2014 elections there will be fewer still.
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    Oh, and your 190 million guns...How long would you hold out against a SWAT team, or a platoon of infantry?
    All those guns are like insurance, they make you feel better, but they won't stop you from losing what matters to you.
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    Having cost the GOP Senate control and the White House it's unlikely the TeaParty (AKA the same poor shmucks who get exploited by establishment conservatives every election cycle) will have much future influence.

    As for that Red Dawn fantasy, well don't be upset when you're the only one in the room thinking you're Patrick Swayze.
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    Patronizing, probably.
    One thing is for certain, he is letting us know that his Bromance with Obama is over huh? Time to start campaignin' for the wifey!
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    Ya know, I thought about this for a long time....oh about 28 seconds. I think it's high time we experiment with some form of gun control (ok, well gun ban). All major cities (say, population over 250,000) will have an experimental gun ban. Only LEO's (and of course....criminals) can have guns within that major city. It can be a 5 year experiment! Then, after this experimental ban, we can re-visit this gun ban and see how's it going. What do you people in these "major" cities think?
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    Your "experiment" is pretty much happening right now. D.C. tried this for 30+ years. Could we just study those results? Interestingly enough I have a copy of a newspaper article from the Wash. Post where a Dr. captured an intruder who was pistol whipping a 91 year old man. The Dr. is posing with the weapon he used to stop the crime. Had this occured during the ban they would have put my Great Grandfather in jail for having that gun. Gun control is a failing proposition.
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    @Medicinebow HMMM........democrats seem to have "control" of the most major urban areas. Liberal Democrats want gun control (and maybe a ban). This was sarcasm to give the liberal democrats in major urban THEIR gun control....get it now?
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    Historically Democrats have shown a genius for gaining power and then pissing it all away. Mr Clinton is right to caution his peers against hubris, but I'm confident they'll manage to exercise their 2nd amendment rights to shoot themselves in both feet.
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    @marine1 Good. Both sides are contributing to the ills of this country, and alas people keep contributing to them doing so by continually voting them back into office.
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    I saw somebody say something that really fits this bill. They're all a bunch of thugs at an illegal craps table. They may hate each other while they're playing, and even point guns at each other, but the moment their operation is found out they all bind together to defend it. Clinton's argument was entirely political and he cares not about the 2nd Amendment. He's just a sweet talking hit man.
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    Clinton's.description of gun-owning residents in rural areas was., just like Obama's "clinging to their Bibles and their guns" characterization, demeaning and insulting. I think both of them should update their "Tobacco Road" assumptions of farmers. It might be nice if they actually toured a privately owned working farm. Friends of ours are the fifth generation owners of a modern farm. They are primarily dairy farmers but also have acreage of orchards and fields planted with various vegetables. There is a henhouse as well. They live in a completely restored Victorian farmhouse and the property on which it sits is beautifully landscaped. The current owner and his wife both have college degrees. The wife is a teacher. One son has a degree in aeronautical engineering and is not associated with the farm. One daughter is a veterinarian who took her degrees from Cornell. The farm itself and all related equipment and buildings have to be worth several million dollars. Everyone in the family has teeth. Excluding work clothes., they all dress well, better than most people because they can afford it. The men are all hunters and everyone in the family knows how to shoot. In fact, they are the antithesis of every stereotype that the gun control issue has promoted in its intended role to begin dismantling the Bill of Rights. They always vote Republican because they believe that Democratic policies infringe on their rights and interfere with their lives.
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    " Gun Nuts" are few and far between. Their not really a factor. Gun owners on the other hand come in all shades of political ideology. Democrats need to listen to Slick Willie if they want to keep their salaries and pensions.
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    @stephen But more often than not he has publicly supported him to put forward a good face to the party and to the country, so he is in effect being as disingenuous as he wants the other Dems to be.
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    @stephen I think his hour long convention speech defending him along with campaigning with him the last month to the point of losing his voice says otherwise. Obama's gun solution is to the right of Clinton. The only thing they disagree about is the assault weapons ban because Clinton passed it and was full of holes. I don't support that ban as it is every Americans right to blow away as many people as possible as quickly as possibly before committing suicude. I support 1000 bullet feeding ammunition clip opposed to the 100 gun Drum in Aurora. I believe there should be 1000 guns for every fictitious black helicopter that's coming for my gun.I have serious doubt that Clinton opposed Obama in the election, Obama may not have won. Clinton defended him in the convention and in public over the Republicans that complemented Clinton over Obama in ads. we need 1,000,000 more Wayne LaPierre and Alex Jones along with the man who who says he will fire the first shot if the government knocks on his door because that is the second Amendment.. I think the 40 percent gun show loophole should be expanded to 100 percent loophole and lunatics should be able to carry bazookas and military style weapons everywhere without exception. Every weapon should have assault caliber bullets that can rip through armor because that is the American way and the Second Amendment. I hope Congress keeps its law on allowing terrorist on the no fly list to purchase guns especially in straw gun buys. As terrorists, they still have the same Second Amendment right as felons should have.
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    @Real4WheelDrv everything Clinton does now is to walk the fine between supporting Obama and laying the groundwork for Hillary
    in 2016. Hillary can't share the all the same views as Obama if she runs.A lot depends on how Obama does in the next 3 years for her to either distance herself or mirror many of his policies. John McCain in 2008 couldn't mention bush 3 * in the mirror before bush appeared as the evil son of a bitch he was. This isn't a partisan observation as Bush was toxic to both parties and why he was for virtually absent in the Romney campaign.

    There is no doubt that Bill Clinton disliked Obama for the simple fact that he ran against Hillary. Making Hillary Secretary of State helped heal the process and even towards the end of the first Obama campaign, Bill was on his side at least publicly.

    If Hillary runs in 2016, it is probable that Bill Clinton will say some negative things about Obama in order for him to return to the White House even as First Man.

    There is no doubt in my mind that Bill Clinton wanted Obama in 2012 for 2 reasons. I am not sure which was more important but having a bush trickle down economic plan would have doomed the country and Hillary would have a much harder time running against an incumbent republican than an open primary.
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    @MadAmerican
    Guns tend to be a single issue to people moreso than healthcare, so there's likely to be a lot of people who voted Republican over the guns issue who otherwise would've voted Democrat. Had those people been voting Democrat then it would have been easier earlier to drum up support for health care reform measures.
    Maybe not as much as single payer but we would probably have a better version of Obamacare or it would've happened earlier.
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    The Big Dog is right. No good will come out of trying to do gun control right now. The NRA is too strong. But given they way they are gunning each other down at the "Appreciate Guns" rallies maybe they will kill enough of themselves off that we can address the issue seriously in a few years.
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    It's not the NRA that is strong, it is the lawabiding American citizen, both democrat and republican that sees the government once again restricting rights of the majority, instead of the woeful knee jerk reaction for personal gain upon reaction from a sensationalized press.
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    @MadAmerican well this is one dem that will never vote dem again ever...i live in a small town and the support for the dems are droping like flies...come on 2014
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    Bill is absolutely right, anyone who goes with Obama on more restrictions on guns is risking getting elected or re-elected.
  • #35
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    The more they try to control the gun issue the more they increase the chance that there will be a Republican president next election.
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    @Altonroe
    True. That's why Clinton is right. I'm a liberal and Democrat but will not vote for anyone who promotes more restrictions on gun rights.

    85% of nation opposes more restrictions on right to keep and bear arms. Clue: Republicans are only about 40% of population.
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    @WMCOL I must agree about the 40 percent Republicans because I have looked at the chart showing the number of emigrants coming to live in the USA. Can't blame them for doing it. I thought I would like to live in Australia until I watched testimonies from those people that live there. They don't have the right to own a gun. Violence is going up. Every where I look I see that if the people don't own guns the crime increases.
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    @Altonroe here's what it says about gun ownership rights in australia:(if you read it you'll have to note that the more stringent laws on firearms ownership were a direct result of a rise in crime. having an armed populace had never reduced crime rates, but in fact tends to result in exactly the opposite effect.

    'Gun politics have only become a notable issue in Australia since the 1980s. Low levels of violent crime through much of the 20th century kept levels of public concern about firearms low. However, in the last two decades of the century, following several high profile multiple murders and a media campaign, the Australian government co-ordinated more restrictive firearms legislation with all state governments. Australia today has arguably some of the most restrictive firearms legislation in the world.

    Currently, about 5.2% of Australian adults (765,000 people)[1] own and use firearms for purposes such as hunting, controlling feral animals, collecting, and target shooting.'
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    @dances-weebles
    >>>several high profile multiple murders and a media campaign<<<

    Seems the restriction on guns was based on politics and a media campaign, not on increased gun related crime. Sounds like the mistake some are trying to make here. Too bad Australia did not have a Constitutional Amendment to protect the gun rights of its citizens.
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    I'd like to take a moment to thank Obama, Biden and Feinstein for their shameless use of a tragedy to promote their gun control agenda. It shows them to be arrogant self serving scum having no concept or concern for the needs, desires, or laws of the American people. Their efforts to disarm the public has made them the most effective gun rights recruitment team in U.S. history. Even if you passed the laws how would you enforce them? There's no way cops are going door to door to confiscate them. That's a suicide mission and they'd refuse. A swat team as one early poster suggested. LMAO. Get a clue dude, the cops don't support King Obama. Every sheriff in Utah signed a letter to his majesty informing him they will defend their citizens rights to bear arms against federal agents trying to confiscate guns. Bet you liberals expect us to just hand them over because you want us to. There's a two word response. No not the one expressed with the middle finger. It's called Civil War. Believe it. You cannot disarm the American public. And yes I'm a Tea Bagger.
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    As lifelong independant voters , our family has voted for Clinton and Bush in the past......but this current nonsense from the democrats , who my husband tries to support as a union member, are pushing us far away from them with their anti gun and pro sexual deviant lobbying . We are voting every democrat out for years to come just because they have pushed too far with gays, guns & immagration
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    I live in a rural area and according to and Clinton all I have is Hunting and Fishing. Actually I moved out of the city to get away from schmucks like Bill Clinton Whom only have Fancy words and plush toilet seats because people like bill and the rest of his kind can actually do nothing for them self
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    Billy, Billy, Billy, you forgot to mention when you ordered an Audit of the NRA by the Internal Revenue Service in hopes of digging up something so you could destroy it.
    This was EXACTLY what you did to Sheffield Nelson in Arkansas. You formed a Blue Ribbon Panel to investigate that honorable man, a Republican challenger to your constant bids as governor. You tried to smear him making reference to some oil and gas leases. The other part of your pincers movement was to get Democrats to vote for the TRULY sleazy Tommy Robinson in the Republican Primary (It used to be OK in Arkansas for Democrats and Republican to vote in each other's primaries. Don't know if that is still allowed or not). So the combination of your bogus "investigation" and the Democratic cross-over in the Republican Primary destroyed Mr. Nelson's chances against you for governor. AND IN THE END, Sheffield Nelson was not found to have done ANYTHING illegal or unethical. This is why people like me laughed and thought "Karma, baby", when you kept blaming others for a "vast right wing conspiracy". It was your own type of tactics being used against you, Mr. ex-Philanderer in Chief. Nobody knows about PANDERING LIKE YOU, Billy Blythe, er I mean Billy Clinton.
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