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    If you want to take the cartels' power away, legalize drugs. If you want gang violence to go away, legalize drugs. If you want addicts to be more open to getting help, legalize drugs. If you want alot fewer corrupt cops and politicians, legalize drugs. If you want to cut the federal budget by $40+ billion a year, legalize drugs. If you want to cut state budgets by $15+ billion a year, legalize drugs. If you want to solve jail overcrowding, legalize drugs. If you want to find a viable cash crop that creates sustainable jobs, legalize drugs. If you want our young adults to stop smoking poisonous herbs and mixing dangerous chemicals in their homes, legalize drugs. If you want to keep drugs out of the hands of children, legalize drugs.
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    Well, thanks. Now that you have written this, you have saved me the effort. I couldn't agree more.
    I might add, that by legalizing these recreational drugs, we could also regulate and tax them, just like with tobacco and alcohol. Not only could we save money, we could add to our tax base, the funds saved and added could easily finance public health Carr, including rehabilitation efforts for people seeking to quit. Also, regulation would assure the quality and potency, thus cutting down on overdosing and poisoning.
    Good comments Dog Lady.
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    @stepped_in_it - whatever drug you decide to keep illegal will keep the cartels in power... for instance, heroin trafficking brings in $3 billion a year in profits. That is plenty enough to continue the violence, blackmarkets, turf wars, etc. Making all drugs legal allows states to decide how they will be sold, and can better control the accessibility to minors. Drug merchants won't wnat to sell to kids because they would lose their business, just like they do now for selling tobacco and alcohol to minors. Sure, some kids still get it, but the number is manageable... and if you ask kids which is easier to get, they will tell you drugs are. And if a speed freak wants to get high, they won't have to make crack in their kitchens causing the entire neighborhood to be polluted. They can just go get something that was made by a licensed American manufacturer who pays taxes. Remember, Anheuser Busch is a drug maker and a drug dealer.... a legal one... and they aren't killing kids in the streets or forming gangs.
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    Excellent post. We should have our world-class agrarian scientists create several varieties of mind-numbing pot, get the Saudis hooked on it, then tell the Saudis that they get ONE OUNCE per barrel of oil.
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  • #55
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    Exactly! If cupcakes made them this much money they would be selling those instead. If we address the real issue of criminals using the black market to make more money on things people want, maybe we could get somewhere. Meanwhile, the federal govt won't even acknowledge that marijuana is incorrectly labelled a schedule I drug. Chasing our tail to the tune of $50 billion a year all so the govt can swindle more money out of the sheeple who think 'drugs are bad... mmmmkay...'
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    @AceLuby Imagine the show opportunities if cupcakes were what they sold. "The Real Cupcake Wars." "Deadly Cupcakes." I see money to be made there!
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    The proof of what the legalize now crowd says is in the pricing. California and other places grow far superior marijuana to what is being brought in by the cartels. But the price is far higher. Legalize and meet demand at all pricing levels and the Cartels will find other things to do. You have to understand that most of us think of a kidnapper as someone who kidnaps for great profit. Cartels will kidnap for 5 grand. Their pot is GARBAGE. But they find a market in the urban areas. The only way they make huge profit is by having a hug market. Take that away and they're done with pot smuggling. Which of course means they will turn to smuggling in Finches or whatever but still it takes the violence out of the game.
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    If law enforcement stopped chasing down teenagers smoking pot and focused on REAL drug dealers, that might be a start. But my real belief is that this ridiculous war on drugs need to come to an end.
  • #103
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    But then they would really have to work and deal with real bad people. They like wrecking peaceful teenagers lives. Call low hanging fruit.
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    use more torpedos and just sink the ships. it will decrease the amount of drugs entering the country and create a nice environment for the fish.
  • #108
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    End the war on drugs and legalize it, then tax the heck out of it, then use the tax revenue to pay down the national debt, people will do drugs no matter what so let them pay for it.
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    When the government bans products that are in high demand by the population, the same things *always* happens: the price is artificially-inflated and organized crime steps in to fill the demand. Welcome to an unchecked, unregulated true free market.(It isn't pretty, is it?) We've poured billions of dollars and decades of manpower into a bucket with no bottom in it. Time to try a new approach.
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    "Drugs are a tragedy for addicts. But criminalizing their use converts that tragedy into a disaster for society, for users and non-users alike. Our experience with the prohibition of drugs is a replay of our experience with the prohibition of alcoholic beverages." -- Milton Friedman
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    @DogLady_1 Yup. If we hadn't tried Prohibition, I might be for it. But only a fool pounds his head against a brick wall for sixty years and when it gets no good results decides "I think I'll try another sixty years and see if things change."
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    make everything legal and the cartels will set up legal operations here,thing is look to mexico and see how the deal with their competitors . oru gov really does not do much to stop or even slow any of these things down.

    also sending our guys and our money into drug countries as if trying to stop it at the source was a failure from the gate.all those funds needed to stay here as did the people.
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    @tomincali If they want to set up legal operations, let them if they want to. Why would you think that legal business owners would be able to get away with the same things that illegal cartels get away with? Do you have any evidence of something like that happening in the US?
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    DeCriminalize Drugs NOW. Take the profit motive out of these thugs' organizations. You will also wind up REDUCING FIREARMS VIOLENCE as a welcome byproduct. With that money saved we can devote more money for prevention programs, triage and treatment for the drug-addicted, etc. You don't see Mafiosi on street corners trying to sell kids bootleg booze after the Prohibition came to an end, right? Or you don't see them gunning each other down in places like Chicago over turf disputes, do you? Only the present inner-city gangs are doing this over their drug-dealing turf. End the charade. Reduce corruption significantly. Reduce firearms violence tremendously.
    Acquire new funds to devote more money for prevention, triage and treatment programs of addicts AND to treat, commit and STUDY the violently mentally ill to prevent future isolated tragedies. It's WIN-WIN all around.
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    No, you don't see Mafiosi doing that, you see individual thugs and street gangs, some of which have nationwide or international influence, doing that.
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    @Real4WheelDrv Huh? You DO see Mafiosi selling bootleg booze on street corners and gunning each other down in inner cities for their share of the bootleg booze business? Please, please, please, let the news media know about this! ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the great big laugh.
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    @SomethinsFishy Doesn't have to be alcohol you know, could be *gasp* drugs, prostitution, you know, all the OTHER things the Mafia was in to
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    and if you had BOTHERED to read what I wrote, I said the Mafia has been replaced by street gangs doing the exact same thing. And that INCLUDES killing each other for turf.
  • #112
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    @Real4WheelDrv You just don't get it. If drugs are de-criminalized people won't be battling with each other for turf. There's been prostitution FOREVER EVERYWHERE, and people don't have shootouts over competing stables/girls. Prostitution is SOMETHING ELSE we should de-criminalize, just like in Germany. The Germans don't have the crime we do, and they don't have shootouts over drugs or prostitutes. You are just NOT getting it. Anytime you make ANYTHING ILLEGAL for which there is considerable demand, you will have criminals getting involved. The trick is NOT TO MAKE EVERYTHING ILLEGAL as we have the tendency to do and concentrate the money we waste arresting people and locking them up (TENS OF THOUSANDS PER YEAR FOR A SINGLE PERSON) and instead use the money for preventive programs, job training, treatment for addicts, DO YOU GET IT NOW? I'm not going to reply to any more of your pointless posts. I DID READ WHAT YOU WROTE, AND IT IS UNRESPONSIVE TO WHAT I WROTE. When was the last time you heard of a shoot out over prostitute turf? And again, in LOTS OF WESTERN COUNTRIES, it is perfectly LEGAL. It's our idiotic and hypocritical authorities (like that NY District Attorney that was so hard on prostitution while he himself patronized them) that complicate things. We need to pay attention to a lot of what Europe does. A lot of it actually works. Our system doesn't. End of transmission. Bye-bye. Go argue with someone else.
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  • #6
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    War on Drugs = more drugs.
    War on Poverty = more poverty.
    War on Illiteracy = more stupid kids, increase in the number of Democrats.
    War on Terrorism = MORE TERRORISM

    I see a pattern here.
  • #4
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    Well if we actually declared war on drugs and not cherry pick witch drug cartels we want to help and witch ones we want to confiscate drugs from that month, that would help. We need to deploy troops to Mexico not iran we have to topple the numerous drug cartels that are literally tearing a country that we share a border with apart. Drug cartels have killed thousands of Americans the Iranians haven't. Witch one should we be talking about going to war with??? A political foe or Heavily organized drug cartels with a military that's better than most small country's...
  • #120
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    You either Legalize Marijuana or the chemist will keep making new bath salts and fake weed. It will never go away.
  • #117
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    Corruption at the border got to stop! Not only drug running but there is Human Sex Trafficking involved under the umbrella of the drug running. Now, it is not your typical marijuana, it the major dangerous drugs that makes "crystal meth" and cocaine. Crystal Meth Materials are the major issue. Source:
    www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_ ‚Äč162-20026055-504083.htm
  • #115
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    Funny thing is people I work with say that if Mary jay was legal, they would smoke it everyday. But since they need a job to pay there bills, they don't smoke it at all. Plus if no drug war and people was driving around on fork trucks high as a kite. Well someone would probably get killed. Now that's a safe work environment. Might as well give them some beer to drink too.
  • #111
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    I think I have to call BS on the story stating that they are running marijuana up from Mexico into California. Since medicinal marijuana was legalized in California, the rules and operations of the marijuana drug trade from Mexico changed completely. Why would they need to smuggle low grade marijuana into California when we can grow high-grade legally right here in the state? Why is the DEA continually now busting Mexican drug cartel nationals who are running grow operations in the backwoods of the California foothills rural regions? If anything, Mexican drug cartels are smuggling weed grown in California back to Mexico to sell.
  • #105
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    No it would not stop. You would then just be killing low level mules. Most likely the bad people on other side said do this or we kill your family. PICK?
  • #106
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    @Righton good point. We don't have the capability to stop it. It's frustrating. The only thing to do is regulate it. That is a scarey proposition too.
  • #100
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    why are people using drugs in the first place?
    any one caught with drugs should go straight into a Fema Camp.
    Cold turkey dry out program.
    For 1 yr......... Period!!
  • #116
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    @Vance1 Sorry Vance you need to recheck the #'s. Alcohol kills 2X as many american people then script drugs. Alcohol 75,000 scripts 37,000 per year.
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  • #62
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    From the current administration: Unlike them on Facebook.
    A better way: Follow them home and annihilate their entire operation and all the people involved. Take a real war to their home country.
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