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    Yes.

    And the best way to end the illegal wars overseas is if we bring back the draft. When the kids of rich upper class people have to go off for corporate interest and die instead of the poor than these wars will end the next day when the sons and daughters of these rich upper class people are coming home in body bags.
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    That didn't work in the last draft (60-70's). They just find exemptions, be it college or medical and the poor went to war! Talk to someone around 60 about 'nam and the draft, it'll open your eyes.....and no, they won't fix that. Money talks...BS goes to war!
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    Bring back the draft, absolutely not.The idea to bring back the draft because our foreign policy is misguided, you say rich upper class people have to go off and die instead of the poor, it will never happen. Were do you think we got all of our chicken hawks at, they would just buy their way out of it or get it deferred for yale or harvard or get a desk job or go off to Canada just like in the vietnam conflict.

    Look at how they cried becauce they have to pay a little more in tax's, no my friend the draft is not a good idea.
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    @Raptor Hmm maybe you are right. Ok how about we send all of the neo-cons and the Israel first bible thumpers and give them a gun and send them off to the 6 or 7 illegal wars are currently waging across the world.
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    wow, that would be a heavy and pricey way to teach people a lesson... I don't wish death and war on any kid, not even rich kids.
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    @texas_cutie75 Hey, pimk camo is cute on you gals! And, from what I'm told, dove/deer etc are color blind. Hamid the camel jockey isn't.....But thumps up for pink camo....
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    Absolutely. I have been arguing this for decades. Equality means equality. Women in Israel serve just like men and do so without fanfare or visible difference. This is a no brainer.
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    Here's a new one from MSM today: US Service women have seen a rise in unintended pregnancies. And it gave me to wonder - does that come under combat pay, hazardous duty, or what? It takes 2 ya know.
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    The need for a draft is gone! The days of million man armies and trench warfare are history. Besides, how we gonna "trim" the military budget if we have a bunch of men (and now women) sitting around a base?
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    The draft wouldn't work in this day and age anyways... Everybody is either a convicted felon, in college, ilegally residing or already in the military :-/
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    The draft has been abolished. But in case of a dire National Defense situation, it is necessary to have the option to reinstate it.
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    Absolutely, you don't get to cherry pick what PARTS of equality apply to you. However, I can see perhaps similar to family hardship exemptions that if for example a mom and dad were both drafted, the mom would be allowed to stay behind because of the traditional role as nurturer.
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    Equality = equal opportunities. Every man in the country had to register for the selective service and women should have to do the same.
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    See what happens? DAMN, some women out there push to be considered equal, to be on the front line. Now because of those few, now all women must sign up to put theirselves in harms way. This is crap!
    See, I know women could handle it, hell I got a wife and 3 daughters, I know they are smart, stubborn, and thick headed enough. But I tell you men ain't ready to see women tortures and/or killed.
    Hey men, we ain't got much left before women realize they don't need us for much.
    2 men in an argument, and 1 man says, "I'm goin to go get my wife to kick your butt."
    Or
    Kids in school saying, "my mom can beat up your mom."

    One minute I am hearing we are cutting the size of our military, next there is talk of women signing up for the draft and being allowed on the front line.
    What the Hell?
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    @Keyjo Actually, unfortunately considering the misogyny of our likely enemy, women would be 100% more vulnerable to rape and maiming than men would be. It's apparently SOP for an Islamist to rape any female they capture. Even with broken bones and vast injuries Jessica Lynch was raped. I have a feeling that most men would break quicker if that was presented to them. Personally, no matter how fit, I don't feel that women need to be in combat positions. Oh, I'm sure any one of us could do the deed if needed, but upper body strength is a must and men are just built differently and have more. There really is a difference between men and women when it comes to strength on average. Brains are a different matter and we are all equal there.
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    I served one enlistment. I never wanted to be in combat, never even tried. I was assigned to a burn unit and cared for burn and amputee patients. I saw the horror coming back home. I wonder what these women, that so desperately want to go into combat, will think once they get that opportunity?
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    @texas_cutie75 "think that's why"... I'm sure of it. Media drives pop-culture and Americans don't like to see the ugly side of life. Americans love to eat hamburgers, but no one want's to kill the cow. Hamburgers sell...killing cows doesn't.
    Do you remember the article the other day reporting suicide rates of service members? These kids are going in to service disillusioned, because they've grown up being spoon feed pop-cultures version of the world. This version is void of the facts of life and they suffer a major culture culture shock as a result.
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    Better yet, make no one register for the draft. No one has been drafted since the early 1970's, and yet we continue to pay for a bureaucracy to maintain it. How long will the government spend money for nothing until we actually have mandatory conscription? How long would it take to crank up draft boards if we stopped registering people and had an national emergency that required another draft? Everyone receives a social security number at birth these days, so all citizens are already registered in that database. Wouldn't closing down an unused draft registration system be a good place for cuts to government spending that everyone says is necessary?
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    The only good reason I see for a draft would be that it would make Americans less gung ho for war. It's a lot easier to support military action when someone else is doing the bleeding.
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    Being drafted doesn't necessarily mean front line if physically limited. There is the whole support system that needs to be maintained (e.g. motor pool, medical, maintaince)
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    I was a Marine. Initially, about half the males couldn't pass the minimum either. But after two weeks of intense training almost all could. After a month, all could or they were shipped out to the "fat boy platoon" for extreme physical training. In the end, everyone could pass.
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    @Keyjo I'm with Keyo on this one. Some women would attempt to join the Marines and fight. And some would pass the physical requirements. Women are not your fathers wives today. (or Oldsmobile) .You'd be surprised what some intense physical training can do for people. I knew a guy years ago who washed out of Seal training (as about 90% do) but that guy was a freaking physical specimen as a result. He may not have been Seal quality but he was ahead of anyone else I knew.
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    @jessejaymes
    I agree. Years ago my then husband said I couldn't pass their PT test. I said he couldn't make it through one of my advanced step aerobics classes. Even with the weight training i did. Wager made. They allowed me to take the PT test with the rest of the guys. I beat 2/3 of them and came in neck and neck with my husband. So he had to take the step class. About half way through his legs were so tired, hurting and burning that he kept tripping on the step and the instructor told him he had done all he could do and didn't want him to injure himself. She excused him from the class. He's a Col. Now. But he will have always lost that bet.
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    @BelinKS
    Good story. Thanks for sharing.
    People often don't realize how different muscles come into play with various tasks. This why cross training is wise.
  • #123
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    What a surprise! Leftists want to draft women as well as men. They are after all avowed enemies of individual liberty seeking to turn all of us into serfs. There is absolutely NO excuse for military concription except in time of genuine congressionally declared WAR, none whatever! Moreover our volunteer professional military is dong a GREAT JOB. Most generals and admirals want no sullen unmotivated conscripts.

    But liberals have a much larger agenda. They really want to enslave ALL young people via "national service.;" an ill defined program designed to force the young, against thier will, to do "good things" as defined by liberals for "society." Rahm Emmanuel, former chief to staff to comrade Obama was a huge exponent of this and it is still part of the red White House's hidden agenda.

    Makes sense from a leftist point of view. You can't tax youth into oblivion, they don't make much, so make 'em slaves to "society" instead performing "socially usefull" tasks. Moreover, The current corrupt Chicago mayor thought such a period of involuntary servitude would better attune the young to accept the enslavement of socialism.

    One only wishes that our Commisars in Washington had campaigned on this issue. Maybe then the idiot twenty and thirty somethings would not have voted for red Obama.
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    Hey, gang... Guess what? It certainly hasn't been a problem in Israel, where there is a mandatory military service requirement for BOTH men and women, and has been for decades. Women currently make up a third of all IDF soldiers and more than half of its officers corps. Around 90% of all roles in the IDF are open to women. Any questions?
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