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  • #57
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    @Fishbone345 She's more of a man then those chickenhawk repubs. The ones that want to send kids off to war but managed to avoid going themselves.
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    @PoliticalSpice I agree. This woman is a hero in my eyes. My comment wasn't really aimed at anyone in the story, I was just being a smart ass to DARSB's comment. :)
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    Yep another small step towards the destruction of the united states military..I bet you're proud, huh?
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    The military now allows openly gay troops. The only fair way to do that is to include their unconventional families in all military related things. I'm glad that spouses group finally relented. The women will probably end up loving her. You never know until you give things a chance. That this gay female spouse wanted to be part of the military family. She put herself out there and fought for what was right now that the military's stance on gays has changed. This part comes along with it. I believe family housing should be a part now too. It should all be a package deal. BTW I am a Christian republican.
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    Pure political move to give her the award, should not have ever happened and it is only going to worsen relations.
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    Pure political is right,as in an apparently overwhelming majority of votes,independent of one another,cast in her favor. It doesn't get more pure than a membership telling it's leadership what it wants. And leadership acting accordingly...priceless. This is a good thing.
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    @rkinsawjoe She told NBC that she believes many voted for her as "a statement to the Obama Administration, to Secretary Panetta...and, really, to America" that as a same-sex wife, she should be recognized by army groups as a military spouse.

    Pure political reason, nothing to do with merit or what she has done, nothing because she has earned it. Simply because she was told no. If she was the best wife, leading the neighborhood in support of deployed families, helping etc it would be deseved this is simply a sham and a shame since someone who deserved it could have been recognized.
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    @Arumizy Actually she said she know's that's why many voted for her,she's being honest which to many is an admirable quality. But she did nothing to bring that about, it was an upswelling of support for her position. Should she have said "oh never mind an overwhelming majority of voting members rejecting the actions of the membership committee, i'll just go back to my closet"? As for merit, the same NBC report says that she had been a volunteer reading tutor for soldiers children,briefed incoming Army families on the local school district and helped transferring soldiers families with housing and whatnot. Perhaps many of those enlisted families valued her help and support over her sexual orientation and resented it being held against her. That's no sham or shame friend, by your own standards her actions were considered deserving of recognition...by those who benefited from them.
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    If it is a private club they should be alowed to admit whoever they want. If it is funded by the federal goverment then I guess they should be made to be political correct. Not sure why someone would want to join a club that they were not accepted though.
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    It is a private club but meetings and functions held on the military base and refusing to admit her violates federal military rules. They can take it off base and have any rules they want but apparently they want to have their cake and eat it too.
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    @Jack-Black Who should suck it up? The military clubs or the partners of service men and women who watch their loved ones give their time and energy, and sometimes their lives in the service of this country?
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    I wonder if she will even want to be a member of this club now?
    It seems the current membership is not worth rubbing elbows with.
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    In my opinion, their desire to be there outweighs any discrimination being presented with prior to being admitted. After admission of the couple and future families of same sexes, I would say it is ever more important that they go.
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    Why would she? It's obvious it would be similar to herding a group of prisoners into a room and making them listen to a sermon. They don't want her and she shouldn't want them. I understand where you are going to come from about equality but you can't reasonably expect that this particular group and this particular woman in this particular situation are ever going to find harmony. And giving her "spouse of the year" award is going to make it worse. Because I seriously doubt that any party involved in this fisaco including the lesbian are the entire military's souse of the year. Frankly it's offensive to me that the Military would even designate a single spouse when you consider the incredible amount of sacrifice hundreds of thousands of spouses have made in our Military. To think in any year they could pick just one offends me.
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    @jessejaymes I'm an awesome army wife. I don't need an award to tell me that. The fact that my husband has made it home from both deployments in one piece has been more than enough. And I'll be here waiting every time he leaves and comes home. Being a good wife isn't something that needs to be awarded. Isn't marriage itself the reward? With that being said, this woman was discriminated against and should stand up for what she believes in. The word "family" is something that can not be defined by the government or a club. I wouldn't want to be a part of a club that thinks it can decide what a family consists of.
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    @AnnieO I understand what you're saying and I'm thrilled your husband is making it back. Hopefully this crap will be over soon. We lost a son in law early on in Afghanistan. But I do take offense that this one woman in this one situation is named "spouse of the year" when spouses have lost their mate, the fathers of their children in the past year and as much as I agree with you about the issue, frankly what she is doing is not any more important than those who lost someone in the service of our country. That's just how I feel.(And I'm one of those people that wouldn't want to belong to any club that would have me.)
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    "Spouse of the Year". Kinda like "miss Congeniality" in a beauty pagent. We don't want you but we'll give you an award to show off. Now go away.
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    I've been part of that world. You may force them to take her, but they will do their best to destroy them. It's not fair but that's the truth.
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    It's time we got past the 'gay is a sin' thing and started accepting the reality of homosexuality as just one interval on the spectrum of sexual orientation.
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    Where is the spouse here? This is disgrace and insult to all the legitimate spouses. Our nation becoming more and more morally corrupt. Our nation is broken morally and financially like the Roman Empire. We are becoming a Sodom and Gomorrah and the American people becoming indifferent and to wrapped up in temporarily material things.
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    "Sodom and Gomorrah" HMMM.....nice story in a fictional book!
    "wrapped up in temporarily material things." You mean the "material thing" ......like the fancy electronic thing you posted this comment with? Or the "thing" you drove to work today (you do work, don't you)? Or the "thing" you talk/text on (or do you use a can and string)?
    Religious zealots indifference's to all but themselves! My way or I will cry! bahaha
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    @stepped_in_it When I say material things I'm referring to anything that causes us to sit around and be complacent and not take action as the national morally decay. Many people pumping themselves up with unnecessary drugs or other stimulants to get through a day. Unless one take action the problem will not go away or can be swept under the rug.
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    @bradley10 You mean computers/cells/x-boxes make you stand up and move around? The only moral decay I see are the morally corrupt religious zealots who constantly say "do as I say, not as I do"! Or, haven't you heard just how violent and corrupt the religions of the world (including Christianity, which leads in that category) are? History is a wonderful study!
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    @AnnieO LOL, Two women married what joke. Everyone reading this text has a Mother and Father or you wouldn't be here. Is marriage going to be about a logical family unit or one thrown together based on feelings. Nobody can replace our actual biological parents while many can step in and fill that role. In order to exist you must have a mother and father involved one way or the other even if your a test tube baby.
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    It's amazing that so many LGBT people continue to serve in a military and nation that treats them like second class citizens. Not that I support these illegal wars we are waging but if you are gonna fight for corporate interests than you should at least not be discriminated on the basis of your race, religion, sexual orientation, gender, etc.
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    Nobody being discriminated. The woman is not a spouse. What we see is people attempting to redefine the term spouse. This woman choice of sexuality has nothing to do with being a spouse. People in America need to grow a back bone not backing down to a little public pressure.
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    @bradley10 You are no better than Nazis claims Jews are subhuman. Who are you to say that gay couples don't love each other?

    Do you know how bigoted and homophobic it is to say that women's "choice" of sexuality? Sexuality is not a choice.
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    @txgurl001 At some point, they made a conscious decision to have sex with another woman. That is pretty clear concise choice by any stretch of the imagination. Being that we are human beings means we are at the tip top of the evolutionary ladder, i.e. congnative abilities to think, read and write. Also included is our ability to decipher information and disseminate whether or not it is good or bad. The conscious decision making called, choices.

    Google is telling me over 8.7 species on planet Earth. Less than a percent of those demostrate homosexual tendencies or acts. And you reasonably expect me to believe that my wife and I have it wrong? You should never inconvience the masses for the sake of few. And that is what we do everytime some wing bat comes off with the notion because they were told no, they have a claim at some civil liberty violation.

    ...their rights ended where my family's began.
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    @Republican5001 So you consciously thought about having sex with a man and had to fight that thought off? Or you always liked women and never thought of having sex with a man?

    In an earlier post you told me we were only different than animals because we have laws, so what's the big deal if only a small percent do it were not supposed to be animals...

    No one said your wife and you have it wrong, no ones trying to make you gay or your kids gay or anyone gay.

    So everyone else's rights end when your rights begin, you the king of this country Republican5001?

    How does anyone being gay effect you?
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    @stepped_in_it I don't believe.....so would that just make them confused? One of them wants a little of this AND a little of that?.....sounds like a spouse to me!!!
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    @whataGOVwehave "so would that just make them confused?" I tried really, really hard to read your statement......but, your statement just made ME confused!
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  • #3
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    Its better than what they used to refer to your family as... Dependent Wife, Dependent Son, etc...
    I always thought that was a little much. Heh.
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    @Fishbone345 - When the wife was in the hospital having knee replacement, the nurses or staff would come in and ask me, "are you the 'significant other'"??
    I usually said, "hell naw, I'm her husband, you can say it, it's not a bad word". Sorry, but I just can't get used to that 'other' business. When they get older, they'll probably be cranky too - just like me.
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    @Rocker I think its more intended not to offend you if they assume. I work in healthcare and I can tell you for sure, its hard to know what to say to people. Our country is so pathetically PC now, that if you say the wrong thing someone might have a temper tantrum.
    I think being cranky and older is a right. We've earned it my friend. Its like the badge we get when we become a certain age. ;)
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    @Fishbone345 - You're right of course. I could have been a brother, boyfriend, or such, although I associate 'others' as of the same sex. LOL I guess thinking about it more, I would have been less flattered if I had been asked if I was her 'father'. Bottom line is you are there when they need you to be.
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  • #191
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    Proof positive once again that bigotry is just ignorance and fear in disguise. Does anyone realize that Alexander the Great was one of history's biggest Queens? Or that contemporaries of Julius Caesar used to say about him: "He's every woman's man and every man's woman?". Sexual orientation and ability to be a great warrior/strategist are not mutually exclusive.
  • #190
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    Have a hunch those opposing this very sensible decision would have an equally difficult time justifying the end of slavery or the end making people ride in the back of the bus.
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