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    This is not an atheist issue, this is anyone's issue. Which mythical "god" does it refer to? Those who wrote it want all children forced into the cult feces christ, but plenty of theists worship other "gods".
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    In 2000, people filed a suit to prevent forced religion in schools ("Santa Fe Independent School Dist. v. Doe") but the plaintiffs weren't atheists. They were catholics and mormons being forced into fundy christian cultism. Would it surprise you to learn that the fundy christards subjected the plaintiffs to death threats, physical assault and vandalism of their homes? So much for the myth of "loving christians".
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    Including the word "god" in an oath IS imposition of religion. Saying it isn't imposed religion is like a rapist saying "it's not rape because there's no semen" because he used a condom. The theofascists want to rape children with religion and need to be stopped.
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    The No Religious Test Clause of the United States Constitution, Article VI, paragraph 3:

    The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

    If no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States, why should it be required for graduation from high school?
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    @Neo_NtheMatrix

    No upholding the constitution would he the most important part. The oath itself is a contradiction by not upholding the part about separation between church and state. People need to stop forcing their own stupid shit on others.
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    @Neo_NtheMatrix It's actually a completely removable part as you're not pledging anything in that sentence. However, the atheists have a point, the statement is exclusional. The last sentence should be optional.
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    I'm wondering why any such oath should be required of high schoolers. Are we educating or indoctrinating? Frankly, it sounds like something out of the Hitler Youth handbook.
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    It is so strange to me why religious extremeist and apparently now every republican in office is trying to one up each other to force religion on everyone. Religion is a private personal matter to be shared with those of like belief. Stop your recruiting and your forced indoctrination.
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    Don't say the last three words if it puts you into such a hissy fit. IF you are a U.S citizen, aspiring to be a U.S citizen and unwilling to say the pledge of allegiance, a pledge to honor the constitution etc then you need to move to the USSR or something because you do not belong here.
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    @hankf68 You know.....the USSR in the fictional movie Red Dawn (the 1st one, not the 2nd one) where the fictional commies (whose empire has fell some 30 years ago) attack the fictional wolverines! That USSR!
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    I'm one of those that feels no need to pledge to anything. This is my country and my flag. I have defended it. I will defend it. There are far too many who go through the moves but will not do the same to provide that defense and protection. I don't need a feel good maneuver to affirm my personal opinions or actions.
    There are so many that freely pledge and then do their best to see to their own wants and ta hell with what was in that pledge. They infuriate me.
    Requiring yet another pledge in order to graduate? What the crap is that? Another feel good measure and nothing more brought to you by the same people that have no issue with screwing over this country or its citizens.
    ENOUGH!
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    the original pledge had no mention of any god in it. it was tacked on because of the godless commie scare, and it ruined the cadence beauty and truth of our national pledge...
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    I would not be surprized to find this is not what the proposed law says. The report last week about a proposed law regarding abortion was, shall we say, incorrect? Politix, among other liberal news outlets distorts the content of laws frequently in it's ongoing effort to dehumanize conservatives. I am going to wait for the truth to come out on this. In the meantime, here is how the msm distorted the information about the abortion law:
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeffrey-meyer/20...
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    Every time I think that the democrats are notorious time wasters bent on pushing and indoctrinating our your with their ideology, the republicans manage to pull even with their own version of time and money wasting form of indoctrination and pushing their ideology.

    By the way, this little stupid oath is basically the same one new members of the military are required to take. Nothing like forced patriotism. It reeks of false and forced nationalism similar to another country a few decades ago. That worked out well for them.
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    This is what you get when you leave neocons and teabaggers without adult supervision.
    It never ceases to nauseate me when the people who talk about rights and liberty are so quick to impose their belief structure on everyone.
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    It is ridiculous to make them recite any oath in order to graduate. They have completed their studies and earned the diploma.
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    I'm pro religion on many things but this is beyond ridiculous.

    1. Will there be an ala carte option? Can I choose to swear to whatever god I might believe in? Or am I stuck worshipping the generic Christian God?

    2. I realize that there are principles of behavior, and lies are not acceptable, but come on, many Atheists already lie about hating religious folks, so what's one more lie? It's not like they believe a deity will punish them for it anyway.

    3. The gall of this government to force anyone to do this atheist or not is beyond amazing. Swearing in of elected officials and soldiers is one thing, but every day students? You don't bother with the Pledge of allegiance anymore so why this? Oh right, it's just another attention grabbing WASTE OF TIME!
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    I am ok with this if the legislation that thinks this was a good idea to take an oath stating "I will pay the legal defense for that state out of my own pocket so help me god"
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    Only because neo-con lawmakers keep coming up with idiotic, controversial laws. This "contrived controversy" article would NEVER have been written if the AZ bill never existed. See how simple that is?
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    A clear and open violation of the first amendment is contrived? Oh yeah, you've shown you don't like the constitution...

    Most of us do.
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    Again.....dummies. WHICH GOD!
    I'd take the oath! I'd also make sure I wore a t-shirt that had all the gods known though out mans existence on that shirt!
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    @John_Matrix I'm an atheists! Atheists don't have concerns UNLESS a religious zealot tries to force unconstitutional and unethical requirements on them. You rarely (i said rarely, not never) see atheists protesting/chanting/forcing THEIR will on other people! You often see the religious zealots protesting/chanting/forcing THEIR will on other people!
    I find it fun to get under a zealots skin, ruffle their feathers and get them red in the face!
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    @stepped_in_it

    Look in the Christian forums on topix, the atheists there are always trolling every to ensure a Christian discussion cannot be had. Some also consider themselves anti-theists and are basically evangellical atheists that try to beat their world view into you with a hammer.
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    I have a problem with them trying to hold kids back from graduating if they don't agree with this type of rhetoric. The religious aspect does not really bother me as much.p
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    Why is Fox News and conservatives worried about Obama indoctrinating the young. Isn't this a prime example and I will bet that they all are in favor of this.

    Hypocracy much? More proof that Fox News and Conservatives are the most ignorant and stupid of us all.
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    Why is it not surprising that it is in a Republican controlled state. This is the EXACT reason why Atheists are a growing demographic. Religion has been the enemy of Man's quest for knowledge since it's inception. If there is a more intolerant and defensive organization in the world more than organized religion, please let me know. The Magical Believers are an impediment to American progress. From Texas to Kansas and every state in between, incl AZ...is there are more ignorant people anywhere in N. America????
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    There never has been a god. There is no god now. There never will be a god. Apparently arizona is a suburb of Saudi Arabia (your ally btw).
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