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    This a good example of why it's not good to depend on the government. As long as you are cashing their checks you have to do what they tell you.
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    A totally inane question. Are we going to implant a chip to scan those receiving assistance? Do you think enforcement may be a bit of a problem?

    Suppose a person receiving assistance buys a lottery ticket from money collected while panhandling - He wins $5000.00. Question: should the state have a claim to recoup monies paid to the recipient
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    @martydotcom I like that Idea. If you recieved welfare/food stamps and you win "big" you should be required to pay back at least a portion of what was recieved from the tax paying citzens.
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    @Jack-Black I just saw something on twitter that made sense. It pertains to public assistance in general. Liberals love to give a man a fish( in trade for freedom) conservatives teach a man to fish so he can feed him self.
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    As an individual that, through no fault of my own,(drunk driver struck me!) was left fully and permanently disabled; and I am now forced to rely on public assistance i.e. "welfare" and "food stamps" just to get by and live my life. I HARDLY live the life of luxury and must choose every day between simple pleasures.(NEVER get to eat out, go for drinks, a movie, or a trip/vacation unless someone else takes me and pays) Must choose VERY carefully to stay fed and maintain my health. So, by the standards of most of the posters on here I am a "taker" and do not deserve to make my own choices about how I spend what little money I have for personal enjoyment! So what if I purchase lottery tickets for the fun of it. Do I know that my chances of winning are next to zero? Of course I do, but that does not take away from the fun. Maybe next we can also pass a law that says I can not spend a dollar to rent a movie from Redbox or have a membership to Netflix! Watching a movie is HARDLY a "necessity" now, is it? Or how about the money I spend on treats and toys for my assistance dogs? They don't NEED those things now do they? But I can assure you the look of joy they have when they get one is both worth the price I pay and is a very fair payback for all the work they do for me. Too many individuals do not understand that many MANY individuals that are on public assistance are just getting by and NOT living the life of luxury by ANY stretch of the imagination. Nor are they just happy to be doing nothing all their lives. Many of them are formally hard working, productive, members of society that have either fallen on hard times, gotten old, or like in my case placed there by no fault of their own. Remember that the next time you decide to judge someone before you know their story. Because you never know when the story will be your own!
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    Stolen money? How do you figure? Most of them are being paid by people who overlook their illegal status so they can pay a lower wage. Take your anger out on those responsible.
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    Welfare people should not buy lottery tickets.....

    ok well how about....also....

    Rich people should not get government subsidies.

    Hummmm.....thats a thinker. Damn that might just work out!

    The rich try to muddy the water with false finger pointing so that we dont catch their rich schemes that they constantly have going on.....like this little dirty story:

    Big Pharma Buys Off The Senate-(ole Mitch gettin his handout!)

    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/big...
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    Have you read Tom Coburn's "the subsidies of the rich and famous"? It outlines all the govt handouts that the wealthy get in this country.
    I don't see the same uproar from the right about being able to write off interest payments from yachts, or the govt giving $6k in tax credits for buying a golf cart. Yet, ppl feel the need to bitch about the poorest in our society getting money to feed themselves. How hypocritical!
    Btw, Coburn is a Republican Senator from Oklahoma.
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    If you're taking taxpayer dollars, then you should have limited rights! They shouldn't be allowed to vote either! You want your rights back ... get off your dead ass and get a job and off welfare!
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    I think this is an idea that deserves consideration. If someone pays no federal taxes, then they shouldn't be allowed to vote in federal elections. They can only get that right to vote back when they get off of public assistance.
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    "Stam says he knows the measure would be challenging to enforce." It wouldn't be challenging, it would be impossible. Are we going to trust that retailers will follow the law, overlook the chance to make money from lottery sales and refuse to sell tickets to someone that they know is on assistance? It's another useless law, but it gets the lawmaker's name in the news, doesn't it?
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    If they *win*, they *won't be on* public assistance anymore. Sounds like a win-win to me. Stop freaking out about what the poors are doing, and concentrate on your own life.
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    While were banning people on welfare from buying lottery tickets, we can also drug test them, make it illegal so they cannot buy booze (no booze list?) and make it illegal for the banks to cash out the EBT cards into cash.
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    I don't care who they are.....If they are on "public assistance", they don't need to be buying lottery tickets. Those are not considered necessities.
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    I'd prefer denying them the winnings instead of the opportunity to purchase. Take the winnings and give to the local or state governments of where they reside.

    Once they are off the entitlements, then alls fair in love and war.
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    Finally. Someone who see's that legislation is pointless with one trivial solution like denying them winnings. Thank you!
    I like your idea of giving the winnings to the governments where they reside as well. Well said sir, well said. I'd vote you up more if I could.
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    @Republican5001 We must not be taking about Millions of $. Because NO ONE recieves that much from welfare over a whole life-time. But besides all this I don't see how the law would ever be imposable.
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    @Waynestew Sure they do. 99 weeks of unemployment? Wica, food stamps, EBT. etc etc etc....

    Take their winnings, pay back their debt to soceity and take the additional for the inconvience to all.
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    People on public assistance shouldn't be allowed to trade their assistance for hookers and strippers either.
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    You can add cigarettes & alcohol to the list. I see them get around the restrictions by purchasing the "approved" items with their state debit card (welfare) and then tell the cashier to ring up the non approved goods only to pay with a large wad of cash. IMO they should all be subject to random drug tests to get the check as well. I have to pass regular randoms to make the money, they should have to pass them to take the money!
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    @Envirominer Another great post and very true. Random drug tests would stop a lot of this nonsense.
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    You folks need to understand, goverment only penalizes those of us who contribute to society or have material value to loose. Dead weight is dead weight or in some cases the deciding vote.
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    A cop with 2 kids qualifies for public assistance where I live. Does that mean a cop isn't allowed to play the lottery either? It's not that he doesn't have a job that actually serves the community and risks his life for that community, it's just that doesn't seem to be enough in this country to justify paying them a decent wage. So now, we lump everyone togather in one big group. You get foodstamps you're all deadbeats no lotto for you. The schools will thank you as the number of tickets decrease and the money they receive from them diminishes as well as a result. Not sure who the lawmaker is who wrote this but as it is stated it is a poorly thought out mess. Then again, it's North Carolina, I'm not all that suprised.
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    @frigginhell Another point I'd like to make, does this extend to politicians? They live off of tax payer dollars. I don't see the need to be paying for their tickets either. How about Boeing employees? That company would have ceased to exist long ago without government sponsored corporate welfare along with the entire airline industry. Let's not just stop at the people on stamps. Let's be fair and equitable about it.
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    I understand that it is tax payers dollars who pay for welfare. But the way most of you sound is really sad. You talk about the people who receive assistance as though they are aliens. They are just like the rest of us, but having financial difficulties in a society that lacks jobs at the moment. So many of you are so quick to judge & make assumptions about welfare recipients, like you've never been down before. And if you haven't, then your blessed. Where is your faith and religion. Doesn't the bible teach us to give. You can't take your money with you anyway. I wish I was filthy rich, I'd do more for the poor. Their the ones who need it. I give without thought, I've walked up to complete strangers & given money because I had it & felt they needed it. When you give someone something, you don't tell them what to do with it. As long as its helping them, it shouldn't matter. The joy it brings them is my gratitude. And if they happen to play lottery & win, then they too can give back, but don't take it all, it defeats the purpose of them winning & being off of welfare. They already have to follow rules & jump through hoops to get the assistance, why keep adding to their pain? I find it frustrating to see wealthy people complain about giving to the poor. You only feel that way cause your not poor. Stop talking about the poor as if they're apart of a different world. NOT EVERYONE WHO RECEIVES ASSISTANCE IS LAZY, INCOMPETENT, OR TRYING TO GET OVER ON THE SYSTEM. And even considering taking away their right to vote is absurd & then you compare them to convicted felons?!! Are you serious?!! FOH!! Its ridiculous. Some of you clearly were not in line when God was handing out souls. Smh.
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    Good god why cant politicians just leave the poor alone its not like they are living in luxury on the government dime. I make $26,000 a year and the NC state takes out $1400 of my money so now why don't I demand to know how these armchair politicians spend my tax dollars that I pay them ...yeah that's right..you use my tax dollars every time you get a state paycheck so now let me have an itemized list of how you use that money..Its only fair. Are you buying lottery tickets with my tax dollars I want to know. Or maybe your buying alcohol or going to topless bars yeah that's right you want everyone accountable? Well we want politicians accountable to us. Think about that the next time you want to pick on poor people they have a right to some happiness even if it is buying a stinking lottery ticket which by the way is owned by the state so you are in effect getting your money back dipsh_ts. Put your swastica away and get to work creating jobs for the poor instead of picking on them for not working.
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    "He says selling tickets to residents on food stamps, welfare takes away money they need" = they obviously dont "need" anything but to be put in jail for welfare fraud!
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    Spoke to Rep. Stam earlier today. The part of the bill that would bar individuals on public assistance from buying Lottery tickets was removed and is "dead". He did seem to not understand prior to my informing him of it that it would also effect those individuals that were on disability as they ALSO very likely receive "food stamps" as do many individuals that work full time (and more than full time!) and yet do not receive enough income to pay bills! That seemed to escape him.
  • #181
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    Yep deny anyone that is getting public assistance from getting any winnings of more than $100. I thought the reason they are getting public assistance is because they don't have the money for basics like rent and food. If they have money for the lottery, then why are we giving them even one dollar of public assistance?
    "Life is hard, Life is harder if you are stupid!" John Wayne
  • #179
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    Well it would be somewhat easy to enforce. You have to swipe your license to buy tobacco and alcohol. Make it the same for lotto tickets. Link public assistance to an ID or drivers license. If it comes up on the system you are on assistance no sale.
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    NC Lawmaker Proposes Barring People on Public Assistance From Buying Lottery Tickets
    Make it so and do it now!!!
    Remember the woman in MI, won a Million or two, and wanted to stay on foodstamps
  • #168
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    There should be no government welfare PERIOD. Private charity is the only morally and economically justifiable course of action.
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