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    Proves my point, cops are basically useless when it matters. They also suck up some of the largest percentage of tax funds via pension benefits. They should cut forces drastically. Leave it to neaborhood patrols.
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    There is some merit to your comment. I do think citizen patrols should be formed in all neighborhoods...but they need to be ARMED...something many govts frown upon. For example, Columbus, Ohio...as far as the mayor, city council, and the police chief are concerned, if you have a BB gun, you're with al Qaeda.
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    @RobertJHarsh And if you are with Al Queda the Government can detain you indefinitely. See how this plays out now?
    Wonder if the Right is rethinking giving so much power to Government now that it may bite them in the ass?
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    @PoliticalSpice that sounds like a militia... and what with the president at war with the second Amendment what wood is neighbors have sticks?
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    It does happen as you say. But if you let them kick in the door and blast them you'll be ok. Just don't reload and blast them 83 times. courts tend to frown on that.
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    @Arumizy That door frame kicked in is pretty powerful evidence. You show those photos in a court and every juror is going to have a mental image of their own door being kicked in. Not guilty.
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    You dont have to beleive in god or own a gun thats your choice,but one thing i kno for sure if someone intent on doing you harm breaks into your house the first thing your going to do is call somebody with a gun and pray like hell he gets there quick! Even a brain dead feel good liberal will!!
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    surely a lib would not lower themselves to call an armed person for protection,i would think they would rather talk to the thug trying to push how bad that gun is in hopes he will go turn it in.
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    @tomincali i have come to realize that anti gun liberals are not anti gun when it comes to there own protection, but in the back of there insecure minds they want to be ruled by a king/dictator and they kno the only way that will ever happen is if there king disarms all those that dont agree with him!! They are a bunch of blind sheeple
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    If politics were not involved, most law enforcement agencies would tell you the very same thing, simply because it is the truth. It seems like only crooks and politicians don't want you to be able to do this. One can only wonder if they both have simlar reasoning?
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    you know I sometimes wonder how up close and personal people have ever been to thugs. Trayvon Martin by any measurement other than a mother was a thug. He attacked someone following him. I can thing of two things I would do with someone following me before I would attack them. 1.) approach them with my head uncovered, showing them who I am and explain why I was there. I just assume people who live in an area are suspicious of people in this day and age that they don't know in residential areas. I see someone I don't know on my street and I get my gun. I wait, I don't follow but that's just not sufficient reason for Martin to attack Zimmerman. 2.) I'd run.

    Either way Trayvon Martin would be alive today. I saw his facebook. Did you? he was a thug and Zimmerman identified him as a thug. I have been around thugs for so many years I can tell you a thug regardless of their skin color or age. They walk a certain way. They look around a certain way. They attack if given the chance. He did. You wouldn't want me on the Zimmerman jury.
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    @jessejaymes We'll have to disagree. I don't have any idea of what transpired between the two of them that night. I do know an armed adult ended up in a situation wherein he believed he needed lethal force to defend himself. It seems to me walking away was an early option Mr Zimmerman didn't choose, and maybe he damn well should have.

    I'm not convinced the typical citizen would behave any better. Rambo is a fictional character. Trayvon Martin is an actual dead teenager.
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    @DARSB I wouldn't turn my back on the 7 houses on my street. I am no Rambo but I would not let a thug go without taking some action. there are no thugs on my street. there is a black couple but no thugs. We don't tolerate thugs. Trayvon was a thug. You will die or end up in prison when you thug. It's the nature of the beast. If it hadn't been Zimmerman it would have been someone else.
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    @Medicinebow I can appreciate that. I'm a city person. Always have been. Feel as out of place in the country as you would be in the city. But I do understand what you're saying. It's not what it used to be. The Gangs have destroyed the big cities.
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    my sheriff says the same thing and i am in california. not minutes away here,short handed has a long wait for any help. seems just what the whitehouse and the gungrabbers like dead citizens waiting for help.
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    When I did my interview for my CCW the sheriff basically said "my job is to show up draw a chalk outline and fill out the paperwork. Your job is to decide who is in that outline, you or the bad guy"
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    Great, I guess this goes against the lie you are more likely to get hurt if you have a gun. Now he'll have to answer to the Brady bunch for telling the truth.
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    Understand that your comments came after having laid off some officers and that the sheriff's office is undermaned but beware I think it was the Mayor who is opposed to your comments and if his home is in need your force better show up faster than Superman because he won't care about some other family needing the dept he just wants you there when he calls.
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    certified safety courses are great, and can be tailored to your level of knowledge as well as the type of gun you prefer.
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    Since the last time I called 911,it took 45 min for him to arrive. He had the gout. Couldn't get around good. I kind of figured this one on my own. But it's damned good advice. I actually heard a libtard say they didn't need a gun. They had a phone to call 911. Now it's official. You really need a gun.
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    Cops are not there to defend you. After all they are not your personal secret service for life. Cops are there to catch criminals after the fact. It is up to each of us to defend ourselves. Like what David Mamet said.
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    Agreed, the police are after the fact entities, rarely, if ever a preventive force...hmmm, maybe therein a problem exist in itself...
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    @marine1 If "Stand your Ground" is any indication of whats happening on this front, SignifiedNBlue is right. People are using the law and manipulating situations to murder people. Period.
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    @Fishbone345 my state just passed the stand your ground doctrine. It seems scarey. People can and have used it to get away with murder..its never a good thing to by pass calling 911 first. Of course there are situations where you have to use deadly force but advertising it in this manner is ludirous
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    Disagree. One major component of this is that they be trained. People are not just going to randomly shoot people because they can, unless that was their intention to begin with. In that case, they will be found out. Don't punish all because of a few.
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    @culinary The liberal way is to restrict all for the actions of a few. There have been cops do similar things. Should we take all their guns. Idiot-ology always punishes the law abiding because they can deal with the CAUSE.
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