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    Where is the only option that could have saved this girl. Allow the citizens to arm themselves.
    Doesn't Chicago have the most restrictive gun laws in the nation?
    Haven't we been told gun control laws like Chicago's are needed to protect innocents like this little girl?

    This one is on the gun grabbers. You bear full responsibility for this girl's death along with the hundreds of other deaths in Chicago.
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    No one is restricted from having a gun in Chicago that is alive put out by the right. I have plenty of family members that live there all are legal gun owners.
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    @Waynestew Chicago certainly does have gun laws and restrictions:

    "CHICAGO — Not a single gun shop can be found in this city because they are outlawed. Handguns were banned in Chicago for decades, too, until 2010, when the United States Supreme Court ruled that was going too far, leading city leaders to settle for restrictions some describe as the closest they could get legally to a ban without a ban. Despite a continuing legal fight, Illinois remains the only state in the nation with no provision to let private citizens carry guns in public."
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    This is not going to be solved by more gun laws. This is going to be solved by putting known gang members in jail for being in a gang and executing them for using a gun in the commission of a crime. These gang members are not human people. We have regressed. We have a species of sub humans in our society who are not much more advanced than neanderthals. They don't care about gun laws. They're not following gun laws. This whole thing about taking guns is such BS when in FACT the only damn people that will have guns if the liberals have their way, will be the god damn gangsters. Is that what you really want?
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    Nope, don't want that. I agree with you. Taking weapons away from the law-abiding (a "ban") will only allow the criminals to get them more easily on the black market, and use them even more easily on the innocent... Chicago, "gun banned" for decades, is a rather dangerous place to live in, I imagine, as is.
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    Only comment/addition:"only damn people that will have guns if the liberals have their way, will be the god damn gangsters" and LEO's (who will be both out-gunned and out numbered to make any difference).
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    It's sad when things like this happen. The residents live in basically a "gun free" zone. Nobody walking the streets has the ability to defend themself. A parent is left defenseless to protect their kids in public.
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    You think someone there having a gun would have stopped this? weren't the guys with here afilliated with gangs? wouldn't they have had guns?
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    I lived in the southside...cops WITH guns WON'T go there...what makes you think an untrained citizen would do that trained police officers are afraid to do?
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    @woodtick57 We don't know if someone being there could have stopped it. We know for sure unarmed residents that live in the area can't stop it. Aren't the actions of these gang members illegal? What would you suggest? Defenseless citizens are dying with Chicago's ban on allowing the law abiding to remain defenseless.
    Maybe we need more laws?? <sarcasm>
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    @Food4thoughts you vastly underestimate the power of citizens that are defending their neighborhoods. There are more good people than bad. Give them the means to defend themselves. You will see crime rates drop.
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    The answer isn't simply less gun restrictions. Stepped up enforcement of drug laws, increased police presence, longer jail sentences for criminals and such would be a big help.
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    The rap culture has destroyed the black community. As sad as this little girl being killed it happens every day across america when some pants sagging, illiterate, 40 chugging sub human takes offense at some perceived "diss" and start blasting. It's EVERYWHERE today. Until America decides to snuff out the rap culture, the rap culture will continue to destroy America.
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    @jessejaymes You're right on point cousin except for one very important detail. The solution to this problem is in the hands of African Americans alone. I say that because most people,black and white alike, will have already flipped the switch on 'ol rkinsawjoe and if they bother to read further it will only be to find out exactly how bad a racist I am. That I am one goes without question because 1) I'm white 2)Southern 3) I had the temerity to say that the black community was actually responsible for solving a problem that it created.
    I recognize the tragedy and loss of this young girls life just as you do. But the fact of business is that those closest too her and by that I mean those standing next to her when she was shot, would not identify or name her killer if they could. Many wouldn't have a problem though with "strappin up" or "gettin a gat" or whatever cool sayin they have these days for using a gun to fire indiscriminately into a crowd of people or in the general direction of their target without a care in the world for who else might be hit. You see, it ain't white folks that hate and murder black folks...it's black folks that hate and murder black folks.
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    @jessejaymes Don't give me your everywhere #hit, gang activity is very limited and very uncessuful in my area and the citizens here are not going to see it happen "up in here". It is much less than our first gang related violence reported almost 10 years ago. Maybe it's the high (!extremely) populace of legal open gun owners or maybe the amount of crazy and I mean crazy people running the streets, but gang violence here is more like unheard of until someone is arrested and then later linked to a gang.

    Forget take back the night...take back our country from those who our government allow to pray upon us.
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    @kathyparsell "Maybe it's the high (!extremely) populace of legal open gun owners" in California? Try again. How many legal open gun owners are causing the problem?
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    @rkinsawjoe Unfortunately you're correct on several counts. Any statement about the black community (or the brown or the asian) today by white people is immediately branded as racist. So whites tend to simply pretend that blacks don't exist because if you say anything negative about the rap culture there is all kinds of blacks wanting to lynch you as a racist. Never mind that there are more Latino gang bangers than there are black ones. A thug is a thug is a thug but that's not the way that the politically correct left winger sees it. They are all "humans" and should be shown respect. That's BS. My black partner of 30 years would not allow rap in his home. Both his daughters are Harvard MBA. In our store we had concerts but Norm would not allow rap artists to perform. He was death on rap. The ghetto blacks called Norm an Uncle Tom. Norm called them N&*(^rs . Norm lost both legs in Viet Nam. Norm grew up in Compton California. Norm never ever felt the need to conform to what is "Blackness" in the ghetto. Norm always said he was green. He loved money. So there you have it. If I said anything about black gangs I was a racist. If he did he was an Uncle Tom. There is a problem in Black america and it's a cancer killing the community. The rap culture. And until they decide they're done with it nobody is going to care how it turns out for them. You can't cure an addict until that addict is willing to be cured.
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    let's be honest, gang members in Chicago serve zero purpose, murder them! treat them the same as we treat terrorist, simply develope a system of murder and finish them off, maybe the next generation of gang bangers will think twice. the young men who are now ruling Chicago feels as if they are untouchable, mainly because everyone is hiding behind closed doors while he shoot up the streets of this once greeat American city. To hell with them, kill gang members.
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    Waddaya know no assault weapon was used but hey lets not stop a campaign against a type gun that is rarely used to commit the vast majority of the crimes. Gun control appeases the stupid and enables the criminal.
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    I can't vote because you left the answer off the poll. Get rid of the oppressive illogical gun restrictions in Chicago. And let the citizens defend themselves. The claim that the gun come from other places is false. The states that surround Chicagoland don't have the crime problems that Chicago have because the don't have those restrictive gun control laws.
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    You aren't being completely factual. The areas you are pointing to as not having the same issues have smaller populations, of course the crime rate is smaller.
    Big cities have more people and more money. That is why these things happen there. Comparing Smalltown USA with Chicago is comparing apples and oranges. New Orleans is in Lousiana, Atlanta is in Georgia both are gun friendly states and their crime rates aren't miniscule like you are claiming they should be.
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    @Fishbone345 Further what she is omitting is that while Chicago has restrictive gun laws, suburbs of Chicago less than half an hour away have very non restrictive gun laws. I read the other day that you can get a gun as easily in some Chicago suburbs as you can in Texas.
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    @Fishbone345 try Houston or Austin. The rates are a half to a fifth of Chicago. And I mean per capita. But you are aware of the lack of prosecution for gun crimes has actually gone down over the past four years. I am saying it is a crime problem. Treat it as a crime problem. Another point I read a poll of convicted criminals. The overwhelming response was they are more afraid of citizens with guns than being caught by police. No citizens alone can't stop this. But combining strong enforcement vigorous prosecution AND less gun control, does work. What frustrates me is the insistence that the proposals put forth by Obama make people fell better but don't accomplish anything.
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    @jessejaymes

    "I read the other day that you can get a gun as easily in some Chicago suburbs as you can in Texas. "

    I doubt that. While I’ve never purchased a gun in TX, I do work in IL and live in MO. It’s much easier to legally purchase a gun in MO than in IL. IL has a required Firearms Owner ID (FOID) card before you can purchase anything gun related. However in parts of “da hood”, you can get anything you want if you’re willing to pay.
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    @Thunderchicken true. Criminals buying guns from criminals. A crime problem. But Obama wants to restrict law abiding citizens. Yeah that's going to help. Smh.
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    Hey @Medicinebow,@Canoochee and @NTBFW - thanks for pointing that out, I've added a "fewer gun restrictions" option to the poll.
  • #71
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    Yes, I'm sure this young girl would have been packin' heat at the park, has she been allowed. I try to stay open minded but the vigilante fantasies on the part of the gun advocates just get to be too much.
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    @Zazziness Who's calling for kids in parks to carry guns? Please read my posts and then comment. I've repeatedly stated parents should have the means to protect their children.
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  • #267
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    End the war on drugs, and you essentially pull the carpet out from under gangs the world over. No lucrative black market drug trade, no street war.
  • #264
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    if a cop was there then that could have helped jsut saying where they at when you need them!!! popping someone for a ticket for riding a bike with no helmet or something.
  • #263
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    THE POOR THING WAS SHOT IN A CITY WITH STRICT GUN CONTROLS AND THAT DID'NT STOP CRIMINALS FROM SHOOTING HER!!!!!!!!!!
    OBAMA AND CLINTON ARE IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!
  • #257
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    Legalize drugs=less gangs Chicago has more gun laws than anywhere else, so obviously that doesn't work. All the sane people should leave the cesspool Chicago and leave the dump to the crooks.
  • #254
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    Answer: INVEST IN EFFING EDUCATION. ELECT LEADERS WITH MORAL CENTER.

    Comments: Prohibition as never worked, for anything, at any point in time. It always has adverse affects. This is not an opinion, it is fact based in 400 years of American history up to the present.
  • #253
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    First legal gun ownership for qualified citizens.
    Second maximum gun crime prison sentences.
    Simple possession of firearm when committing a crime 10 years. Weather you use or display the firearm or not.
    Brandishing a firearm while committing a crime 20 years.
    Discharging a firearm while committing a crime 30 years.
    Taking a life while committing a crime death penalty or life in prison.
    All sentences no parole.
    Serve your first term come back again 2 strikes you're out life no parole.
  • #252
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    This tragic loss demonstrates (yet again) the absolute fallacy of all so-called "gun-control laws" - which operate to disarm ONLY the peaceable, law-abiding, citizens (who pose no threat)- thereby rendering ALL the innocent completely defenseless against the heavily armed violent criminals and lunatics (who routinely disobey ALL such laws)- as they calmly stroll the streets, casually selecting their next victims - supremely confident they will encounter NO opposition. Chicago is like a free, open, shooting-gallery - with the innocents setup as the targets - for the exclusive use of the criminals - courtesy of your public servants.
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