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    I have been saying that for almost three years now. A centrest dem or moderate republican. There are liberal repubs (or used to be) further left then obama.
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    @Tralee understand not on every policy, but in a general way if you look at votes of former senator jacob javits (sic) of new york for one. On some policies even richard nixon (created epa) on some policies ford (food stamps, pardon war resisters). NY mayor bloomberg, Govenor romney (obamacare, other stuff), even gulliani, although a conservative has policies as liberal or more so then obama (on immigration, personal sexual issues, regulation).
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    LOL Did Ike add 6 trillion to the debt too? Did Ike have record black unemployment? Did Ike have record Folks on food stamps? Did Ike Trash the USA every chance he had? Did Ike bow to world dictators- or even give them a platform or relevancy? I can go on an on. There is Only 1 Obama, and for the sake of this country- we can only hope there is only 1.
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    @drpeeper
    That's just so much silliness, or astonishing, perhaps even willful, ignorance.

    In 1958, the whole economy of the US didn't add up to 6 trillion, and I doubt if the economy of the entire planet approached that figure.

    Nobody even cared about black unemployment.

    There were no food stamps.

    DDE warned against the undue influence of the 'military-industrial complex'.

    I can go on an on. There is Only 1 Obama, and for the sake of this country- we can only be glad our president isn't Mitt Romney.
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    haha no flipping way! Look at the stances of presidential candidates all the way back to the late 19th century. Obama never would have been a moderate Republican. In fact, it seems while the GOP has stayed somewhat steady, the Democrats have swung ridiculously left!
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    And from a far left socialist's perspective, fascists are to the right.

    I read the article and I can't point to one factoid in it that would suggest Obama as a moderate anything (what someone else does, the GOP in this case, doesn't make you anything). At least substantiate a position. Try these -

    Obama is a moderate because:
    - He's reduced the deficit by providing a surplus
    - He's reached across the aisle and refused to demonize the opposition
    - His main piece of legislation, Obamacare, was passed with bipartisan support after careful deliberation
    - He's supported the constitution even when he's disagreed with it
    - As the head of the democratic party, he's strongly encouraged his party to put forward and pass a budget
    - He's taken the battle to America's enemies (OK, this one is actually true regarding OBL and some anti Somali pirating)
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    @DerivePI Also he has had the most transparent governing in history. Look at how long we had to review and comment on Obamacare. He promised to cut unemployment in half by the end of his first term. We all thought he meant the actual unemployment rate.
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    @Canoochee - I try to give him credit when he does something right (the last one on my list), but Obama is not a moderate republican. Even arguing him as a moderate democrat would be difficult given his record (democrats used to be somewhat fiscally responsible). Of course, too often of late, reality is intentionally blurred and history is forgotten so the sheeples hear someone say "Obama is a moderate" and they start bleeting agreement. We should at least have the confidence to call him a progressive and be OK with that. Perhaps we can argue that he isn't a socialist. But to call him a moderate republican is doublethink and should not be tolerated by anyone with any intellectual honesty.
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    Only a fully committed Communist would think Obama was moderate in any way. He is as left wing as it gets....way, way, way left.
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    It's funny how time softens the rough edges. The fact is that Noam Chomsky is to the Left of even an ubersocialist like Obama. From his perspective, Chavez is a "moderate."
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    Sadly its the truth. The country through those 3 decades got so shifted to red state ideology that the entire democratic party is little more than liberal conservatives. They basically had no choice. Either bow to the establishment or accomplish nothing. Obama is sadly a reflection of that ideology. This is why as POTUS many of his actions have either been continuation of GW Bush admin, or consistently caving to conservative intellectuality to try to get anything accomplished.

    Between being an even more aggressive global nuisance than Bush was with things like predator drones, to chopping his health care plan into the mutated abomination that it became in order to get conservatives to sign off on it to having to cave and ensure the conservative government welfare entitlement plans were continued we have no clue what a blue shift in this country would be like it has been so long since we have seen one.

    So Chomsky is right. The track record speaks for itself. While he might be helping to push the country toward a blue shift some day down the road, he has consistently behaved quite red. But of course, there will be no shortage of people to disagree with that. Ive learned over the years that dullards and the vapid of society love nothing more than calling something as wrong that they do not even comprehend.

    While were at it.,.,,. can we get some more Socialist kenyan anti christian corporate shill turning the country into a welfare nanny state Chicago thug Muslim bent on using the constitution as toilet paper and destroying the country from the inside talk? Even though its pure uncut fiction, it never gets old.
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    Yeah Obama is a moderate Republican of decades past as compared to Mao Tse Tung.
    Chomsky would believe something like this of Obama.. but that's because he's a full fledged anarchist.
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    He's left of Hugo Chavez... I have to say I disagree with Chomsky. Since when has he ever been right on anything ???
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    LOL - right, when was the last time in our history that any Republican's stated goal was to redistribute the wealth and institute a class warfare society? Chomsky may possibly be to the left of Obama, but that definitely does not make Obama anything by a far left ideologue.
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    Obama never stated that as a 'goal'... stop regurgitating talking points and start discussing facts.
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    Trying to reframe the debate to get the answer you want? Question would obama be considered moderate republican in decades past. Answer is yes. What a politician says is never a good measure. Watch what they do...
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    @PoliticalSpice Watching Obama redistribute the wealth, what else do I need to see? He spoke the truth, for once in his political life, when he replied to "Joe the Plumber" ON TAPE for all the world to hear. You all can deny all you want, that was his stated goal. And no, I do believe I answered the question quite well, when WAS the last time any R president had a goal of redistributing the wealth? So, to those who need smaller words, the answer is No, no one who wants to take from me and give to someone else what I worked hard for would ever be considered a moderate republican. Just go back and listen to his inaugural address, which BTW, even those on the left found surprisingly progressive in tone, and you will see that this man is what we have always said he was, a far left ideologue. Deny all you want, the secret is out. So no, he's no Reagan, Eisenhower or either Bush. However in his thin skinned paranoia and secrecy he is very much like Nixon.
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    @Tralee "Watching Obama redistribute the wealth, what else do I need to see?"
    --- What a crock. Comrade Palin did more to redistribute the wealth in Alaska than ever Obama has done in the U.S.. You fanatics just cannot handle reality.
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    @Tralee the only redistribution of wealth I have seen, as opposed to heard talk about is the bank bailout. Food stamps were created by president ford (r). Giving money to private insurance companies is not a leftist, or even liberal way to redistribute wealth. Indeed, it is a republican idea. Ever heard of mitt romney? And he did not say to joe plumber his goal was to redistribute the wealth, he said i'm a redistributionist. The same way a person can say they are a libertarian, but not be claiming their goal was to abolish social security when they entered office, as ron paul made clear...
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    Nobama is a tool. He will be the biggest laughing stock of the Democratic Party in a few years, looking back . His anti gun nonsense will cost mass out-voting of his democrats here and nationwide. The democrats will all get the "nay" vote come election time.
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    It's not difficult to see Obama as a moderate Republican in 1980, he and Reagan shared a lot of views but the people that deify Reagan now have no clue what Reagan stood for because all the read are cherry picked out of context quotes. Reagan supported the Assault Weapon Ban. Reagan banned people from carrying guns with them or in their car in 1967 with the Mulford Act and Reagan wanted to ban all Nuclear Weapons but Reagan did differ on taxes, his top tax rate was 50% whereas Obama wants to raise it to 39% and Reagan raised taxes 9 times whereas Obama has simply allowed a tax cut to expire.
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    No Obama isn't a leftist. He's a corporatist, along with George W. Bush and Bill Clinton. Only way to be president is to sell your soul to corporations. Don't believe me? General Electric pays 0 taxes under Obama, and GE is one of Obama's largest supporters. Look it up.
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    The old leftist thinks Obama would have been a 'moderate Republican.' Here is a perfect illustration of perspective; from the far left, the POTUS appears centrist. From the perspective of the center/right, the President is a socialist.
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    Spot on. Obama is a little to the left of Reagan (who would be a liberal Republican by 21st century standards), but considerably to the right of Ike, who would be branded a socialist.
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    Does anyone care what these Liberal pundits say? They are truly truly stupid people lost in their ideology and have not the intelligence to see when they are totally wrong. Obama is the most liberal activist president we have ever had. The GOP in no way has gone far to the right. The GOP is trying to keep this nation from bankruptcy. They are cutting defense spending but the Democrat's refuse to cut their favorite programs. The GOP does what is right for the nation, not what is right to get elected.
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    @WattheTyler WOW, never mind about him forcing thru our first Government controlled healthcare plan FORCING Americans to buy his version of healthcare. Never mind forcing us all to pay for abortions, never mind his constant tax the rich, redistribution of wealth fairness doctrine. Quit watching Liberal network news.
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