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    I knew there was something I didn't like about Ron Paul. He does not believe in self defense just like he doesn't believe in national defense. Too bad too, because he had the best fiscal policies of any of the Republican presidential candidates.
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    Ron Paul's statement was very crass. Even liberals should feel offended. Liberals only love you when you're dead, so they should be upset that Paul disrespected the dead.
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    @Neo_NtheMatrix Never thought I'd say this about Ron Paul, but he just needs to shut the f*ck up!
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    Whatever you fell about whether the rightness of these foreign wars or about gun control the fact remains that Chris Kyle served his country well and performed the duties that were assigned to him. In his case he did his job very, very well. He is to be honored and his death was as much tragedy as the deaths of those kids in Newtown were. Ron Paul's comments were crass and in poor taste as befitting the kook that he is.
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    HMMM....a little torn here. Chris Kyle is/was a hero in the fact that he did more than likely save many of our boys lives in his duty as a sniper! For that, I deeply respect the man as I respect all our men fighting abroad. BUT, when you constantly put yourself close to the fire, it will one day burn you. PTSD is a serious, sometimes crippling mental illness that can cause the afflicted to snap....at any time. Placing yourself around both a person/people afflicted by PTSD and firearms increases your chances of this type of "accident". Now, Ron Paul (or your intern).....have we not learned that services like tweet, facebook....etc are NOT the places to express your feelings.....
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    Yeah it was the wrong place to say it but the truth in that clearly this sniper and his buddy had no medical expertise to take a PTSD out for "therapy" and it's proven by the fact that both are dead today. Paul/someone went about it in the wrong medium but the message is spot on.
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    @jessejaymes @stepped_in_it You know, you two tend to agree on a lot of subjects...is
    there any way you wwere separated at birth?
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    I feel nothing but contempt for both Pauls, Ron and Rand as both are out of touch with reality and act like they are Gods gift to man. They are republicans and everything that they represent.
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    @NTBFW Completely understandable....I don't think it was him....but whether it was or not this would not be a good way to run the white house if he were president....

    I like his son Rand Paul a lot better....
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    @Knightmare I get your point. But this was over the line. I hope we can find someone to support.
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    @Knightmare & @NTBFW I am upset about what happened to Chris, too. He was a good guy, great sniper! I thought it might've been an intern, too No matter what, Ron Paul is the one "in charge" of what he "supposedly" said. In any case, I don't want to see friends fight friends! I think the 3 of us are friends here & we definitely need someone other than Ron Paul anymore...
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    I say damn the american people if we don't speak out against politicians that disrespect the men and women of this country with words like this, they are the ones to blame for PTSD,or any other sickness , they put our children in wars we have no business in in the first place..
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    That was one of Ron Paul's big thing, get us out of these illegal unconstitutional wars. With that said (I'm still not totally convinced he said it) but even if he did say this its insensitive and I would expect better of him. He isn't a politician anymore as well but still would expect better.
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    @Libertyiskey - well said... Ron Paul is the only member of congress who has consistently voted against putting our servicepeople into illegal wars on the other side of the world. All anyone needs to do is look at his record...
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    Even if he said it, when you train to kill, employed to kill, you're most likely to be killed in the course of your duties. Many in uniform know this, why is this such an outrage? America, where 2+2=50. He's ( or intern is) not implying that Chris was not an honorable man, he was pointing out the the FACT that many suffering PTSD have "flashbacks" when the hear or smell something that reminds them of their traumatic combat experience. Why wouldn't it be reasonable to say that the gunfire could trigger something like this? If in fact, that this event was because of that, or something nefarious because of Chris's outspokenness against Obama's unconstitutional gun grab. Either way, I NEVER will believe anything the MSM reports.
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    Wow what a comment to make about a true American Hero who served honorably on the war against terror. I'm sure his son didnt like the comment at all and should say so publicly if he plans on running in 2016. I thought Ron Paul had alot of good views but not on this one. I just lost all respect for him..
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    Ron Paul was over the line on this. Chris was a true hero. He deserves our respect. What he was doing is a common way to help PTSD. He was trying to help the guy.
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    What is really odd is that I have seen those exact same comments this morning on this site.
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    @NTBFW The "people" here can not understand in order for them to have their rights there are those of us that have to live by the gun.

    I would rather live and die by the gun than to be thought a coward!!

    He was a real Hero unlike the sports stars, musicians, and so forth.
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    @WilliamWallace is this really a case of living and dying by the sword? It's like saying that about a pizza delivery man who gets hit by a car while helping an old lady across the street. He did a job as asked by his country and then volunteered to help those in need.
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    @WilliamWallace - Chris Kyle was definitely a war hero... but he did not fight for any of our rights since our rights were not at risk of being taken by those whom he fought against. Not all wars are about our rights, and not all wars are noble, but I deeply respect each and every serviceperson who was willing to take up arms in case we needed such defense of our rights. And I too can't think of a single pop star or sports figure that I would consider a hero. Playing games is not really heroic...
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    I don't think Paul wrote that tweet... and Prolonged Exposure does not work well on everyone... it is only one of several therapies for PTSS. PE has a very high drop out rate because it actually re-traumatizes many people... and others are sent right back into war through PE.... so it is very possible that the man who killed Kyle was not responding well to the therapy... so tragic that a brother in arms had to lose his life over it...
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    This is the reason why Dr. Paul never won any primary elections and certainly wouldn't have won the presidency. He can say something rational and logical one minute and turn around and sound like someone from the tinfoil hat crowd the next.......
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    Whoever made the comment was insensitive but that seems to be the standard in today's society. Anything for your few minutes of coverage.
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    This is ridiculous, the mans a hero and his work with guns had nothing to do with his death. It was the unfortunate result once again of a mental health issues. If he made any mistake it was in failing to recognize the issues this man had.
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    Just want to remind everybody that there has been no confirmation yet that Ron Paul himself wrote that tweet... It's really a shame how fast people will react to something heard on the media and believe it without any verification... I think too many people just want to believe something whether it it's true or not.
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    @paperdragons81 Ironic really, because if its something they don't believe then the Media is a bunch of Communists.
    I don't think I ever read a post agreeing that Obama was ahead in the polls. It was about how bad the Media lied, never trust the Media they are ran by the Liberals, its all bullshit.
    But something like this and apparently they speak the truth as if the God stepped out of heaven and placed his hands upon their head and said "They speak for Me and the Truth".
    Pot meet Kettle moments are rather frequent around these parts.
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    Well, we were asked by Politix a while back which politician we would miss the most. I quickly posted....Ron Paul. Now, see what I mean? Don't you just miss this stuff on a daily basis?
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    Kyle was a veteran and should be respected for that. His methods for dealing with PTSD may have been questionable, but his heart was in the right place and he was trying to do something to help other vets.
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    Ron Paul is DEAD ON THE MONEY actually. There is no reason to be putting a gun in the hands of the mentally ill. Ron Paul is absolutely correct.
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    "One of the most effective treatments, called Prolonged Exposure Therapy, involves exposing PTSD sufferers to their trauma's triggers."

    and your medical background in what discipline exactly contradicts the therapy Chris was using...
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    While I do agree with you and the message of the tweet, I don't believe he tweeted that, it's not in his character to say something like that as he always defends his statements much better and wouldn't make a comment like that which he knows people would find offensive. I believe it was an intern or staffer, but if he comes out and says it was him I would expect him to deliver that message more gracefully and not so soon after that event happened.
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    @Gunny68 And the dead sniper is what discipline that qualified him to make the determination in what was clearly a non controlled situation? I may not be right but he' still dead.
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    I'm sorry but you are dead wrong on this. Chris was a friend and he deserves better.
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    What I find curious, seems the ones who don't want gun control....it's not the gun....it's mentally ill people....are defending this man putting a gun in the hands of the mentally ill. Freud would have said "interesting, very interesting"
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    Dr Paul has not been in the same frame of reference as the rest of us for some time. Judging from son Rand's mystical belief in an arms trade between Libya and Syria, it's a hereditary condition.
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    Mythical ?? Go spend a deployment in the sand box and then come back and tell us that.
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    Ron Paul: That Navy SEAL has done more in one day than you have done your entire life. You Sir are a disgrace. It's no wonder you were a colossal failure in CONgress all those years (I mean really? One piece of garbage legislation passed out of all 600 plus attempted?). I consider you now to be the State of Texas' greatest mistake.
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