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  • #25
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    It's an outrage. Obama Biden and Panetta should be on trial before the Hague ..... just like you people wanted Bush Cheney and Rumsfeld for water boarding three terrorists
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    I agree. Obama, George Bush, Bill Clinton, and well basically almost the entire US Congress need to be on trial for crimes against humanity. This criminal regime in Washington D.C. of the Demo-Republican dictatorship needs to be taken down.
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    @WattheTyler and replaced with what? I'm serious what is a better form of government than what we have?
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    @bsking Anything is better than what we have now. Direct democracy would be better than this crap. It's completely stupid for us to elect people who will represent the will of corporations. Democrats and Republicans are both the same sh*t. Both controlled by big corporations and wallstreet.
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    well what is to keep them from doing the same thing to any citizen who disagrees with them. so much for a fair trial,another attack on the constitution. if they are willing to do this in another country,nothing is to stop them from doing it here by other means.
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    They did it here without drones to dozens, possibly hundreds, in the 1970's. FBI targeted and killed Black Panthers, members of the American Indian Movement and others throughout the 1970's. Hardly anyone said a peep.
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    @PoliticalSpice like most things here if it doesn't effect some personally it is not an issue. shame some are ok with it.
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    @NormalFlora thats true, yet how do we know that is the case? it has happened here and in other countries,are we to take the word of those who had it done? have these same folks ever gave misleading info? if so why take their words for anything,it could be you or me who pushes them the wrong way at anytime they choose.
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    I have no problem with the government going after these terrorists whether they are American or not. Not only does it stop potential attacks on innocent Americans it hopefully acts as a deterrent to other who might engage in "jihad" against us. As for the civil rights of those Americans? When they start plotting against my country I feel no need to stand up for their rights.
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    PNWest: "As for the civil rights of those Americans? When they start plotting against my country I feel no need to stand up for their rights. "

    I agree with you 100% on that point. The question is, who decided these Americans were plotting against the U.S.? Was there a trial? Were there any charges brought against these people? What makes obama the Messiah, judge, jury, and executioner?
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    @Neo_NtheMatrix Someone has to make the decisions. I will trust the Commander in Chief and those around him to make them. It is his job to keep the country safe and unlike his predecessor he has done so. Do you believe that this policy should be stopped? If so this makes me sad.
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    @PNWest - Aside from the Obama-blaming part, I agree with Neo on this one. Shouldn't the presumption of innocence apply?
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    @Denizen_Kate No. This should be thought of as acts of war. These guys are traitors and deserve to be treated as such. I lose no sleep at all about the fact they they may have been deprived of their civil rights. I'm just glad we stopped them before they hurt innocent Americans.
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    As Americans we should be kept safe by our government. But, as Americans, we should remain loyal to our nation. And, when we decide to join a foreign enemy to our nation we can expect to be treated like a foreign enemy. If traitors can be killed in battle on the battlefield they can also expect to die in a drone strike.
    THE DAY YOU BECOME A TRAITOR, YOU CAN NO LONGER EXPECT TO BE TREATED LIKE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.
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    Loyal...no matter what? Tell me when it crosses the threshold and to stop being loyal. Just curious. Because the way I read most news and policies shat out by the government, the people of the United States are the enemy.
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    @RobertJHarsh - Amen Mr. Harsh. There should at the very least be official publicly documented charges leveled against any U.S. citizen before such an attack on their lives can be carried out by our government. What proof did obama have that Anwar al-Awlaki committed treason against the U.S. or planned to launch terrorist attacks against us? There is a reason we have a Constitution and American citizens deserve to have their day in court. Ruthlessly murdering American citizens with no proof they did anything wrong is not going to keep us safe.
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    "THE DAY YOU BECOME A TRAITOR, YOU CAN NO LONGER EXPECT TO BE TREATED LIKE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. " The problem I have with this is in the proof. Shouldn't the presumption of innocence apply, even to a citizen not currently residing here?
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    @Denizen_Kate Exactly! Due Process! If we can give it to Hussein, then why the hell can't we give it to the people on our soil?
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    "The document sheds light on the legal reasoning behind killing American citizens in overseas drone strikes" READ that 3rd word from the end...."overseas". Not in the United States of America. Pull your proverbial panties out of your crack....Don't you think if an American is overseas and has now joined a group that's avowed to attack America or American's, he is still an America. A majority of us seem to have no problem shooting to kill someone who has entered our domain to harm us (and I'm one of those people). I have very little problem eliminating a terrorist no matter what country they "used" to call home!
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    We could probably save each other a lot of wasted time on here by simply alternating days to post since we say the same thing most the time.
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    So basically if me and youwere at the local mall togather and i pointed at a person and told you that guy looks like maybe he would rob you in the future. Its ok just kill him now
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    The US constitution does not end at our boarders, nor does a US citizen stop being a US citizen because they are "overseas".
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    If an American is training with Al Queada and we drone attack the training location I feel no sympathy. When we attack him directly I'm not cool with that. As Americans they have the right to a trial. On the other hand should we risk the lives of soldiers (or CIA agents) trying to arrest someone who is clearly a traitor? This system needs to be better, but can I honestly say a traitor's right to trial is more important then a soldier's life? No.
    What I want is better information on how they make these decisions with more people involved.
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    But without a trial we don't know what they're saying about however they're killing is true, that's why we have trials. I know we all hate terrorist but do we trust everything the government says? No matter what side, left or right, you have to realize that this power will be in the oppositions hands one day and I don't want either side having this power of killing American citizens without trials.
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    @Libertyiskey Hence @Cheenoguy statement "What I want is better information on how they make these decisions with more people involved"
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    @Libertyiskey
    That's why I have concerns about the way this is done.
    If I had to sum up my stance: I oppose this as it is currently done and demand a reliable system that Americans are aware of before this is considered. At the very least Congress should know and as of last night they don't. I recognize that there is a need for adaptation to the world we live in, but we need to adapt better then this. And I've actually stated elsewhere here my concern for a different kind of president having this kind of authority.
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    So should police officers pursue criminals even though they may risk their lives doing so? Or should they just be killed with sniper attacks instead? In this country we are willing to sacrifice our lives for the rule of law. If al-Awlaki really did commit treason and was behind terrorist attacks against the U.S. then by all means we should have done what was necessary to apprehend him and try him in a court of law. If found guilty then the death penalty should be administrated. He should first have his day in court though.
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    @Neo_NtheMatrix
    All I am saying is that there are instances where this could be acceptable. Problem is the lack of information on the process.
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    Does merely being a citizen give you the "right" to go to a foreign country and plot for the destruction of the nation you are a citizen of? Why should we look upon these men any differently than any other person set on the same agenda just because of a piece of paper? These men where on foreign soil plotting with enemies of this country to destroy it and acting not as citizens of this country but as enemy combatants. If they were so intent on not being a US citizen when why not relinquish the citizenship, maybe because they thought it would protect them against just such an action? When people go to another country and put forth actions against their country of citizenship, to destroy it, I'd say they no longer are a citizen in any sense of the word.
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    I think the concern shared by those to the left and the right is the concern of "what if they are wrong about the terrorist affiliation" and for the precident set. The information we have is so vague that there is some validity to concern about how far could they go. Imagine if someone like Dick Cheney had this power. Still okay with the status quo?
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    @Cheenoguy Well considering his teachings, which are documented, where the inspiration for a continued jihad against the US and any country not of Islam, I'd say your concerns are not real relevant. He willingly linked himself to Al Quada and the attempts against the US all which are well documented.
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    @blue_yahoo
    Not relevant or not relevant in this situation? He's far from the only American we have assassinated. I want a clear and transparent policy not because of lack of trust for this administration (I have some, not a lot, but some) but because I would be terrified of some tea bagger president having this kind of authority.
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    @Cheenoguy Well you might have a point. Although, I am much more concerned with the current administrations thoughts on control of the general populous than any conservative party that may be in charge. Although, for now, I think I'm safe as I have no plans to join an Al Quada movement here or abroad.
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    Gettin' out of hand, ain't it? Let's see how everyone feels when EVERYONE'S got the same technology, and Iran's blowing targets HERE to smithereens.
  • #77
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    The report clearly states that the individuals were OVERSEAS in a FOREIGN COUNTRY (Yemen, a known Saudi-Arabian al-Qaida hangout), and that the individuals killed were "Anwar al-Awlaki" and "Samir Khan", both known, upper level al-Qaida operatives who we've been looking for for a LONG time, so I'm not understanding the concern...?!

    Granted, they might have once been American citizens, they might possess American-based residences, might even hold American visas that allow them to travel between the U.S. and elsewhere...BUT...if an American citizen joins, albeit heads up, a foreign terrorist regime that has demonstrated its intent to destroy the U.S./kill Americans en masse, then they have WILLINGLY relinquished/given up any and all access to the Due Process rights typically afforded every U.S. citizen, that is, unless they've decided to become terrorists intent upon the destruction and murder of the United States and its' citizenry.

    Such being the case, I believe that the reporter is reading FAR too much into the incident and making LARGE leaps of irrationality by employing the tactics of supposition and conjecture in an attempt to form a tenuous at best link between what happened in Yemen and what hasn't, EVER, happened here in the U.S.

    In short, this is nothing but anti-America propaganda, PERIOD!

    If you don't want to get drone killed in a foreign country for engaging in terroristic activities, then don't be a terrorist...Simple!

    And, just because we are using drones instead of soldiers to kill terrorists in foreign countries doesn't automatically imply that we're going to use drones to kill terrorists here in America, though I wouldn't be opposed to that idea either, you know, inasmuch as they would be killing TERRORISTS and preventing them from killing Americans on American soil...!

    Common sense, people, common sense.
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    The United States has been at war with Al Qaeda for over a decade. It is not a war between countries, it is unconventional war. We did not arrest German-/Americans who went back to fight with the Nazis, and we should not go to extreme measures to arrest American citizens who become enemy combatants. You don't arrest enemy combatants, you kill them. It doesn't matter if they are on an active mission or sleeping in their bunk, they are fair game. Why would an "innocent" American citizen be hunkered down with Al Qaeda operatives in a foreign country known for harboring terrorists? I know that some people think that our own government is America's greatest enemy, but I think they are deluded.
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    A little due process would be nice... judicial oversight... checks and balances... repeal the USA PATRIOT Act maybe...
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    Repeating my previous post: drunk with power. Obama can't even prove his citizenship...I "believe" him to be as big a fraud as his victims. What a corrupt little creep. Can I borrow a drone?
  • #106
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    Same goes for you and ANYONE else who thinks that this ONGOING mess is the current presidency's fault as all that President Obama is doing is cleaning up the MESS dubya left behind.

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but not to their own facts and the simple, irrefutable FACT of the matter is that we wouldn't have to deal with this BS had Bush not forced us into the position we're in!

    FACT! Not opinion!
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    But it is very highly that they will be used on Americans here. If they do try to take up peoples guns there will a wide array of people refusing to give them up. And watch and see the drones start to be used...
  • #90
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    And Obama continues to prove his hatred for America and Americans. From killing Americans, to giving preferential treatment for ILLEGALS, to siding with terrorists while isolating Israel. God the list goes on.
  • #88
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    Obama is a war criminal. He's killed thousands of innocent civilians. Any conservative, liberal, or progressive, who defends the use of illegal drone strikes without a trial by jury, is just as bad as Obama. It's time to impeach Obama.
  • #80
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    Obama's case for killing Americans? Seems simple enough to me who the target is.
    Anyone the Gov't FEELS or THINKS is a possible,(may be, could be) a threat.
    No trial, no tangible proof, just trust your gov't.
    Our gov't wants us to give up our firepower, while they set the stage for hunting season.
    Oh crap, I probably just made the hit list.
  • #75
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    As always, Liberals like Obama are hypocrites. They scream at the thought of water boarding that kills no one but have no problem using Drones to KILL people who have not even been tried. Can you grasp the hypocrisy? I'm ok with Drones. I just think it is pathetic what hypocrites Liberals are.
  • #73
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    For the ones who see this as no problem theres no words to descibe how hypocritical you look to anyone with half a brain. I care less how much proof they have that someone is a terroist if an American citizen you deserve a trail. You people are the same ones screaming about torture at Gitmo (which still exist) but its aright for Obama to kill an American plus the innocent people around him just because he "THINKS" they are a terroist. Do you people not see what hypocrite fools you look. Raising hell over McCain calling this countries biggest enemy a monkey but not dare to criticize Obama for killing an American. If George W. or any republican would have did this you would settle for no less than impeachment. America should be outraged over this and it should NOT be swept under the rug along with the rest of his dirt. This man is following the same footprints as Hitler and you people are no diffrent than the German people who worshiped him. Transparent my ass!
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    After reading the paper, the government makes a very strong case for killing Americans who are colluding Al Qaeda. I want to change my vote in the poll.
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