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    Every US military member recieves brief after brief after brief of what you are entitled to. Before you leave the military you are "out processed" and you recieve about a weeks worth of briefs on the next step. If this SEAL was in 16yrs I REFUSE to believe that he did not know what care he could recieve on his way out. If he had all of those injuries and they were all documented that is probably going to amount to 100% disability pay. Especially with that "back injury"..I respect his accomplishments, however he should have had more personal responsiblity when it came to his career and his families welfare.
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    @Chanel
    The military knowing what they are able to get. I know many that knew nothing about free healthcare for five years.
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    @BelinKS Why would anyone not research the benefits they are fully entitled to recieve? I have no sympathy for irresponsible individuals who put their health and loved ones health at risk.
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    I'm not ready to believe this guy's story but I do agree the healthcare coverage system we have is insanely complicated and hard to navigate - and I deal with it every day.

    There's some reason for optimism, though. The Affordable Care Act includes a requirement that Essential Health Benefits must be included in all coverage plans. Some info was published last fall, I think a final version is going to be released soon. http://goo.gl/DmFDE
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    Questions to ask yourself. Who is responsible for the VA? Ok, now who will be responsible for the Affordable Healthcare Act? As you think about those two question keep in mind they VA has been around a long time and certainly had the opportunity to iron out the wrinkles. Now ask yourself why you really wanted to hand over good intentions to bad management.
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    My ninety year old father is probably entitled to a veterans health care pension. We've been filling out forms, making phone calls and exchanging emails with the VA since early October. We still don't know if he qualifies. The eligibility requirements appear to be a big secret and change with every different person and web link. Yeah, it's frustrating.
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    Have you tried working with a veterans organization. I joined the VFW and they are helping me weave thru all the red tape to get disability benefits.
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    @mtkopf

    Yes sort of. There are a couple of volunteers that I've been in contact with. They've pointed me in the right direction form wise and put me in touch with two VA reps who seem to know what's what.

    My first few encounters with the VA really had me wondering. I applied for a DD214 (because according to the VA site the only thing acceptable was a DD214) and the application said to make a follow up call to a number on the application a week after faxing it. That call took a couple of hours and got me exactly no where. I was certain the application was lost. A notarized copy of a separation of service form showed up the next week with a note saying that the DD214 wasn't issued in 1948. I already had the original 1948 separation papers. We'll have to see what the rest of this adventure brings. I expect to be burning a lot of vacation time dealing with the VA.
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    @Thunderchicken the best of luck to you. Just remember two things:
    1) Besides the social security administration and the IRS, the VA is the largest bureaucracy we have. You will run into ppl who CLAIM they know what is going on but, in reality, they are clueless and really don't care about your situation (they get paid no matter what). Not all ppl but some are like that. I would suggest keeping notes on who you talk to, when and what about.

    2) Whenever you deal with a govt agency, make sure the forms are filled out correctly. If you don't understand or don't have the info, ask first before sending it in. The process becomes ten times more difficult if a form is filled out incorrectly.

    Again, no matter what your political beliefs are, I wish you the best of luck. Keep fighting for your father and the benefits that he deserves.
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    @mtkopf

    "they are clueless and really don't care about your situation "

    This describes my first contact with the VA.

    Thank you for your wishes and good luck to you also. Oh and something I ran into last weekend. When filling out forms on line, save them often. I had some repeatedly vanish with a click of the mouse or the tab key.
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    obama should hold this man up as a hero, since his killing of bin Laden is the single reason why obama got a second term as president. Instead obama just throws this man by the wayside. Disgusting, truly terrible and disgusting...
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    Whatever happened to personal responsibility? This numbnuts tossed his career in the dumpster chasing some "gold ring" and he didn't find it. No one threw him "by the wayside" he jumped off the bus with both eyes wide open .
    I find your lies, misrepresentations and false accusations typical of you ilk,m Digusting truly terrible and just so typical.
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    Neo, seriously, get a grip. Obama is a man, not a god. He isn't personally responsible for even a fraction of the crap for which you constantly blame him. [facepalm]
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    @Denizen_Kate - But his supporters call him the Messiah. I don't understand why they think he can walk on water. They allow him to gut our military and throw our heroes by the wayside.
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    Unfortunately, it's his responsibility to make sure he has health coverage. If his health care was to expire, he should have inquired about his options. I'm sure someone would have let him know that he can receive 5 more years of health coverage. This is entirely his mistake and his fault.
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    @Russell797 He also gave a lovely anecdote of a bet that involved fellatio. Honestly, he doesn't sound like the most immature and responsible individual. Lucky him to be the finger that pulled the trigger on Osama, but the guy screwed up. He made his own mistake; however, I don't see why they won't just give him the health insurance now.
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    Hold on, why is that Navy Seal blotting that he killed OBL? I thought sensitive information like that would be held by the elite soldiers of our nation? Either he's lying or in deep water.
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    @thatgirl I'm pretty sure he's still bound by some sort of secrecy. I don't think one can freely blot out information like that once one is retired.
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    @Ventric Obviously not, we wouldnt be hearing from him if there was such a thing, you know?
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    @Ventric Many people are willing to get into trouble to have their voice heard. Maybe thats what he is wanting? Maybe he's mad, upset that he's not getting what most of the military branches give you. He served his country and this is how they repay him, I'd be mad too.
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    The system is riged so the commen man can't understand it this way the people in power have wiggle room to get out of paying. This is not just limited to government but privite companies as well.
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    story is bull, anyone with 16 years service knows what his/her benefits and rights are!
  • #121
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    Everything the government touches is too complex. And that is precisely why it's so expensive and wasteful. The government has become a giant money tree that only members can harvest. Anyone can become a member, but one must discover or buy the cheat codes and shortcut keys. It's a mater of figuring out what the meaning of "is" is.
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    Free healthcare? We are going bankrupt because of a society that gives away everything for free. I hope his free healthcare is a part of his Military service and not yet more free welfare.
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    I'm a 100% disabled, service-connected, US Army Veteran. The VA DOES have what the call a "means test". I can testify that there are a lot of veterans out there that are under the impression they don't qualify for free health-care from the VA unless they are service-connected disabled veterans. The Department of Veterans Affairs needs to do a better joy of informing them. They sure had no problem during and after Vietnam with that STUPID commercial telling the public "many veterans are 'TICKING TIME BOMBS' " to prejudice a huge portion of the general public against Vietnam Veterans.
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    What I don't get is why he decided to retire somewhere around 16 months short of 20yrs service. 16 more months and hes got a pension. Its a sad story regardless, but that aspect makes me scratch my head a little.
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    I'm a Army Veteran. It's not hard at all. Dd214 and ID. Go to va hospital. Get an appointment. Bang, healthcare. I have seizures from being attacked. They take great care of me. If he's a seal.
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    Health care coverage is complex for providers who have categorize their service and send the bills to the right insurers.
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    While I agree that things are far to complicated in dealing with our government, I also think this former Seal is not doing himself or the image of Seals any real justice. I had this image of Seals as being really smart guys. His comments and lack of knowledge certainly doesn't measure up to the image I had of them.
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    The laws are written in such a way that one cannot know for sure what benefits are available and what is not. One is asked, for example, to select a program from a list of insurers but the fine print says they can change it so you sign up for something, don't get what you need, and next time around you sign up for something else. It's always a gamble or pig in poke. This is designed to help out insurance companies, not people.
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    It isn't 5 years of free coverage, if you get taken by ambulance to a hospitol other then the VA you have to pay it. On average an appointment at the VA takes anywhere from 3 to 6 months to really get into. It has been long over due a reform on veteran benifits, and unfortunatly this president will not take that task under belt.
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