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    The media has got to stop this nonsense. They're so busy trying to scoop each other or stay on the air with a story even though they have absolutely no information to give that they are suffering from a severe cases of foot in mouth disease. I've been tired of it for a long time -- ever since they started to haul in "experts" to speculate about a story when they have air time to fill but no data. "Here's astrologist May Bee to guess what a Leo would do in this situation..."
    Gimme a break.
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    Never mind all the strange theories about subversion in the media, this is a perfect example of why you can't trust the media to get it right in the first 24 hours, if that soon.
    They're under too much pressure to get something on the air to be able to be careful.
    It's not a plot, it's unfettered capitalism.
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    Is it possible that a liberal could become a journalist and honestly feel they are being objective? Or a conservative for that matter? Sorry, that question didnt really fit your statement. But i am curious. I agree with what you said. With twitter and Facebook you have seconds to be first with the news. Not time to be thorough. Just throw something out there. They can always fix it later.
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    @NTBFW
    There are both liberals and conservatives who have the ability to be objective. But where's the incentive?

    Most people want to hear something that agrees with what they already think. And so that's where the money is.
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    @harold_lloyd there are some I guess. But I doubt they ever can be completely objective. But they try.
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    @NTBFW
    Theoretically, pure objectivity is unattainable. The best we can hope for is to recognize whatever bias exists.
    The schism is between journalists who are at least trying to get it right, and those whose sole purpose is to try to guide public perception and opinion in a direction that serves some goal that may not be immediately apparent..
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    @harold_lloyd true. I also think there are some on both sides that honestly think they are objective but are not.
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    And again....if everybody would just WAIT THE HELL A MINUTE and get the full true story, AFTER the dust has settled and everything is confirmed, we might be able to trust the media stories. Everyone is in such a hurry for every little tidbit that the media just throws stuff out there to be first. Its ridiculous.
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    New scanner recordings reveal, he may of been assassinated by the swat team, Waco style. Not a peep from the media. You can hear the swat members " Burn that MFer!"
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    Typical LAPD style tactics. All proving what Dorner said was trie all along. With him dead, they hope his story will go away, with him alive the story about the police brutallity he was reporting and LAPD was covering up would stay in the news...
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    @PoliticalSpice BS him being killed proved he was telling the truth???? Really???? I think your tin foil hats on crooked!!!
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  • #40
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    the days of journalist reporting nothing but facts is long gone,most have become the same as what you find while checking out at the grocery
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    Heard it but also had reliable media reporting accurately.

    Haven't heard any of media question the lying police who say they didn't set the structure on fire. Of course they set the place on fire. It is SOP in these situations. They fire incendiary devices into the building with specific purpose of lighting the place up and then deny they set the fire.
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    This is just more proof that Bin Laden may still be alive. Remember how they transported him to a Navy ship and had DNA confirmation within 12 hours and a burial at sea in less than 24 hours? Naval ships do not have foreinsic DNA matching equipment and even some of the most high profile cases take more than a day to get DNA evidence. Is this guy dead? If they can tell the world Bin Laden is dead by a confirmed DNA test within 12 hours of being shot, why is it we have no confirmation here? And yes, the press is a joke trying to have bragging rights to who was the first to report his death. Don't drink the kool aid and watch those hype cookies.
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    You can get trips and equipment to naval ships in mere hours from land bases. I'm thinking with such a high profile killing as Bin Laden they prepared ahead of time. It's not like we didn't have time to prepare.
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    "Naval ships do not have foreinsic DNA matching equipment and even some of the most high profile cases take more than a day to get DNA evidence."

    Two things:
    1) When was the last time you were aboard a top-of-the-line aircraft carrier? And if you've been aboard, did they show you everything they had?
    2) The latest equipment allows for almost instant DNA matching.

    In this case, however, if there is a body, they can't recover it and take a DNA sample until the fire dies down.
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    "City girls just seem to find out early" I remember growing up hearing "believe that what you see with your own eyes". And then there was photoshop.
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    @DARSB But how can you go with Lou Reed when he's busy reporting about Holly coming from F.L.A. and shaving her legs along the way then he was a she and all sorts of people started babbling about taking a walk on the wild side. I mean, the guy is not exactly rational. Heh.
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    I was flipping through news channels last night, and one of 'em, not sure which one, I heard the comment, "lets get a little truth in here". The whole thing was a free for all with ALL the MSM trying to be the first he with the breaking news.... I'm disgusted with all the channels!
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    The problem is not that I doubt anyone's professionalism, in a fast moving "breaking news" situation what the military calls a "hasty advance" is standard. In news they tell you what they have heard and you take it with a grain of salt. Since the next will be peppered with the newest reality.
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    It amazed me that the body found was charred beyond recognition but the driver's license found right beside the body was perfectly recognizable, evidently not burned at all ! Smells like a fishy story.
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    @RoFroh i've been following this in these sources: LA Times, the Guardian and the WaPost. But have been reading all the comments and clicking into the links in the comments as the story developed. Long answer to say, i'm not sure where i read about the wallet and driver's license, but it really caught my attention at the time.
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    I quit believing anything I read or here in the news and it all begin in 2008. Thats exactly thie time that I caught the media tell lie after lie and slandering good honest and innocent people. It was like they were taken over by outside forces and being controlled by the goverment. IBefore hand I always remembered the media always trying to get dirt on Washington and politicians and try to expose any corrupttion in our goverment. now they do their damnest to steer clear of any negative reporting and will even go as far as protecting and lieing for certain politicans. I neverthought I would see the day where all media is pro goverment and nobody questions it. And if you think Iam crazy and just imagining all of this I will bet my life you are a Obama supporter and you two must be Obama sheep
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    The media's main concern is about being first to report the news. Accuracy is on the low priority list. I wouldn't be surprised if Bin Laden were actually alive.
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    The urban black community will often swear and be damned that Tupac is still alive. Amazingly this guy was allegedly in a cabin that was so hot the police couldn't get in for hours but they find a charred body and the shooters drivers license. I know if I had an escape route and the cops were swarming the nation looking for me and I torched a building, left a body and a drivers license that the pressure would wane if not subside entirely. This guy may be dead for certain but the certainty will not extend to the ghetto any time soon.
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