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  • #66
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    @Knightmare I'd still question independant studies, government can still conceal itself pretty well behind those too.
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    Liberals can get away with any kind of story as long as they preface it with "studies show".
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    Do you think everyone is lying to you? Who do you trust?
    I'd be willing to bet that there is plenty of documentation to bolster the conclusion.

    Is there anything that would make you accept this as true, anything at all, ever?
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    Haven't the Democratic and Republican parties also "developed over time, in part through decades of work by the tobacco industry and other corporate interests"?
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    @CPT_Ethanolic Just because some study claims it as fact does not make it a fact. I Bet you believe everything that is on the internet. Becareful of those french models.
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    Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea of all the Socialists and Big Hollywood supporting the occupation fiasco? The Tea party speaks to me, an american who understands how these Liberals are bankrupting our nation, refusing to cut spending. The tea party's main concern is our debt and what kind of idiot would make fun of them for that? The only people who would make fun of them for that would be socialists who want Government control and huge spending and want free handouts on the backs of tax payers.
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    Or someone who earns around 100K a year in retirement, has a double masters and voted for Gary Johnson. That someone would be me and I think the majority of the Tea Party are about as dumb as your common street gangster.
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    @commonsense51 I'm not the one brainwashed here. You're supporting the Tea Party being manipulated by the ultra rich to destroy the middle class. You should change your screen name to "The Manchurian Candidate"
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    @jessejaymes I think I will stay with my name.... it suits me just fine. Your name is quite telling when you think of criminals robbing the rich.
  • #141
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    @commonsense51 Uh Jesse James the outlaw was not spelled with a Y. No relation. thanks for making a foolish mistake. I appreciate the notoriety.
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    LOL - must be a slow news day, is ANOTHER left leaning article about the legitimacy of the Tea Party even news anymore? Jeeze, they have been trying to disenfranchise it since it began and even tried to get a "tea party" of there own, but in a typical liberal screw up, the created the "Occupy" movement. Full of entitlement seeking youngsters and the usual hangers on just looking for a good source of drugs and alcohol and sex and a big party.
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    Great... our "Government" has investigated it's opposition... and found they were funded by big tobacco and billionaires... at least they were ALL American and did not accept funds from overseas sources to seek re-election!!!!!
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    @OhWiseOne A strategy a party who got it's ass handed to it the last 2 elections in a row seem all to eager to embrace themselves. Obama had set record deportations. He'd deported more in his first 3 years than bush did in 8 mostly criminals. He still had broad appeal to illegals because he offered a more streamlined path to citizenship for their children at least. He also avoided villifying them to get the racist xenophobe vote. You'll wish that in 2 years time the GOP had as much restraint. Because you're about to see what "buying votes" is all about when they not only cave in on immigration reform, they go further than anything the democrats have offered so they can be seen as the pro-latino group. They're going to do more than conservatives try to paint liberals as doing for the hope of gaining a few points in the general election. It's not embracing change and a new demographic, it's pandering to keep in office. Besides, poorly educated cheap labor is an easy thing for them to justify at the end of the day to the people they really answer to. I'd say you'll look back in 5 years time and wish for Obama's handling on immigration to come back. You won't. You sound like you'll blame him regardless of who's actually doing what.
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    @frigginhell Blah, blah, blah. He got their votes because he supports amnesty. Period. Case closed.
  • #123
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    How many people died while the tobacco lobby was working to suppress research?

    It doesn't make me feel any better that these obstructionists were citizens..

    It makes me sick.
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    @harold_lloyd First off, why do you SOOOOO believe that "Government funded" research??? They LIE to us CONSTANTLY!!! Yet... YOU... so eagerly gobble up what they say as fact just because they said it was government funded research!!! Tell me... when HAVE they told us the truth about ANYTHING??????
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    I guess first you'd have to define what the Tea Party is. If the Tea Pary is the political movement driven by big tobacco and billionaires then I'd have to agree with the nuanced report put out by the NIH (yes, the National Institute of Health is now worried about political health).

    However, if you define the Tea Party as the "American political movement that advocates strict adherence to the United States Constitution, reducing U.S. government spending and taxes and reduction of the U.S. national debt and federal budget deficit" then you'd probably think the report put out by the NIH is too nuanced for people that live on planet Earth.

    If you are at all bothered by the NIH spending your money to write reports on political movements that have little to do with the purpose of the NIH, then you might be considered a candidate for the Tea Party.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_moveme...
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    The last part of the study conclusion says all I need to know about the study authors.

    " It is important for tobacco control advocates in the USA and internationally, to anticipate and counter Tea Party opposition to tobacco control policies and ensure that policymakers, the media and the public understand the longstanding connection between the tobacco industry, the Tea Party and its associated organisations."

    Not to mention their claim that the because big tobacco funded precursors to current organizations, that the current organizations are linked to big tobacco.

    So you are looking at a study done by an anti-tobacco group who opposes Tea Party stance on anti-tobacco regulation, and was funded by the federal government (two highly biased parties).

    P.S. "We used the Legacy Tobacco Documents Library, the Wayback Machine, Google, LexisNexis, the Center for Media and Democracy and the Center for Responsive Politics ( opensecrets.org ) to examine the tobacco companies’ connections to the Tea Party."

    I should see if I can get some government money to Google stuff as well. I bet I could find some serious links to southern Democrats and Tobacco.
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    @Yank Oh flying heck....seriously? Do they think people are daft enough not delve deeper into their motives and their own connections?
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    that must be why you need to use a seat belt in your car... results of a gov't study...

    not only that, but what you're asserting proves that the federal gov't wants pot to be legal because a federally sponsored study showed that smoking pot has absolutely no effect on the lungs.
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    That is so silly. The auto industry hates most of the things they have to do, from seat belts to CAFE ratings.
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    The research was funded by the US government, via the the National Institute of Health.

    {Would that be the progressive liberal government....bent on socialist changeover of our government?}
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    Ted Turner, George Soros, Oprah Winfrey, Planned Parenthood {nefarious history}, China, ACORN....
    We're comparing support histories....not exactly stellar on the progressive liberal side either....
    Let me add a couple more....Muslim Brotherhood, Nation Of Islam, and Kenya....
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    You're not really going to do the old "yeah but someone else is worse" stuff are you? Come on man. Evil is evil and this is about a select evil. You don't change anything by playing the YEAH BUT game.
  • #43
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    @jessejaymes Just saying both sides are being controlled by interests that are different than the American people and the Constitution....
  • #50
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    @Knightmare When you instantly divert from the subject of the thread if all you're doing is smoke screening for the guilty party that is being discussed. When the subject is the corruption of the left do you come back with "yeah but the tea party is a manufactured party of the Tobacco companies and rich people"? I have never seen you do that. You are intelligent to the point that you know what I am saying is true. You instantly started smoke screening. That does not help root out corruption at all. It does absolutely NO good for other parties to point fingers at the other side when people won't hold their own responsible.
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    @jessejaymes First, the study is flawed and suspicious at best....second there is corruption on both sides....the study pointedly did not offer a similar comparison of Occupy....which was supported by the above people....including Michael Moore....
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    @Knightmare Why don't you discuss those concerns when the thread is about THEM? All you're doing is deflecting and that serves no useful purpose. You see me go to war with liberals every day because I think politics in America today is corrupt to the core. I wrote a SCATHING summary of what I thought about Obama's speech last night. NOBODY except Politix Mary responded. But this is not about the Dems. It's about a report that I remember the connection from several years ago. This is nothing new and the report is correct. The Tea Party is nothing more than a bunch of old rednecks for the most part being manipulated by big money.
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  • #30
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    @Denizen_Kate No. No you don't. I was going to offer you another vision but the mods wouldn't let me post it.
  • #51
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    @OhWiseOne That's OK. We all know what Stormfront proposes is an ideal society and no one's interested in it.
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    No it does not damage the Tea Party as much as both the Democrat and Republican party are hoping it will.......people in local communities know who their Tea Party members are and what they stand for. They also know the "politics" of both the Democrat and the Republican party. Both parties are broken! Both parties are about having a party at the taxpayers expense....the only time they know the voters is when they need their vote or their tax money....other than that they just party on. The Tea Party is a threat or they wouldn't be trying to paint them black.
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    None of this is particularly new. I doubt it'll have much effect on the Teapartistas seeing as how they occupy a faith-based paradigm that requires no evidence for its continued existence.
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    @OhWiseOne The dude served his country by spreading anti-Marijuana propaganda to soldiers. All he does is suck up disinformation and crap it out everywhere he goes.
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