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    Furthermore Mr Taylor you should not be doing guest columns for anyone. You're a lobbyist. You're one of the vermin vampires who get pork spending attached to unrelated bills so those you represent get rich without working for it. You and your kind are without exception the biggest problem with America today and the real cause of the deficit. We may be low information voters but we're smart enough to know you're a criminal.
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    "A Note from Politix: We want to offer our users high-quality, informed perspectives from outside writers. We're excited to bring you Guest Posts from top writers, elected officials, thought leaders, organizations and others. We'd love to make Politix a welcoming place for activists, intellectuals and others to contribute their views, so please help us grow by keeping your comments respectful and on topic."

    If you want us to take you seriously, Politix, stop featuring frigging lobbyists, its insulting to us, the posters.

    If it werent for your posters, you wouldnt exist, so give us the respect we deserve.
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    Wow. I have to say I agree 100% with you. Politix should give us all 100.00 each for even having the audacity to give a lobbyist bandwidth. And the hundred dollars is just to clean up after our vomiting. Giving lobbyists space when I click on the link to submit a column I get told I'm not properly signed up to submit an article. I guess lobbyists rank higher on Politix than us peon posters.
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    Why do the parties insist on these rebuttal speeches? Sen Rubio is merely the latest in a long line of politicians making no effective difference at all in rebutting. We all remember Michele Bachmann's creepy off-camera stare, and Bobby Jindal didn't do so well when it was his turn. I think it was in '85 when the Democrats had this bizarre gang rebuttal after President Reagan's SOTU.

    As for substance, the commenter must have listened to a different speech. Sen Rubio didn't address the content of Mr Obama's SOTU but he did an excellent job of echoing many of Mitt Romney's talking points.
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    When i grew up they never had rebuttles to presidential speeches. And I have yet to see one regardless of which political party made the rebuttle that has made any point I can remember.
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    Neither speech was worth listening to, as they were both nothing more than info-mercials for the power parties. Substance? I think not. The power parties refuse to address the real problems and offer no solutions.
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    Let's cut the BS and let us explore a topic of a more serious nature. This site was a lot of fun; now is getting too corny. Blah....blah....blah...... All over a freaking drink of water. Let us get back to politix and political topics of before...
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    He didn't just causally reach down pick up a bottle and take a sip of water. He made a panic dive for the water and gulped like a child getting their first shot of sugar.
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    @Food4thoughts LOL I couldn't believe the expression on his face after hitting the water. Kinda like a junkie after they shoot up. I thought for a second there he was going give a loud belch.
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    Maybe he felt like he had to cough...a lot of people drink water if their throat is dry, I
    really don't see why it's a big deal. I guess it's what the Dems use when they have nothing else. How pathetic, maybe we should get beyond this pettiness.
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    @mimi57 It's not a big deal Mimi. Rubio is a sacrifical lamb. There is no way on earth someone from either party can stay high profile for 4 years and win the Presidency. Why do you think Hillary ducked out of sight? Rubio is just a beginner who is being thrust forward to take up space until about 3 years from now. When he slumps there will be another and another. It's how the two parties work. Rubio is just not ready for prime time so we play it off for comic relief.
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    This is typical, a man reaches for a bottle of water during a very important speech and nobody can seem to remember what the speech was about.

    This is all the media can think of has a story?

    This would be the pathetic equivalent of watching Roosevelt's declaration of war speech on December 8th 1941 and the only thing the media and some people got out of it was that his tie was crooked.
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    What Mr Taylor needs to understand is he came with his attack on the "lamestream media" and calling us low information voters. Mr Taylor is an elitist. He thinks being a lobbyist makes him better than those of us out here that he knows nothing about. That fact is Mr Taylor that both Democrats and Libertarians generally have higher levels of education than your Bible Belt Base. We make more money, we have more net worth. For him to come on here and slam the voters as low information and blame the media for making Rubio look scared and amateurish shows what Mr Taylor thinks of things. Mr Taylor is part of the problem not part of the solution. All things considered I'd rather see Silly Sarah saying what Mr Taylor is saying. At least we have some eye candy while we're being talked down to.
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    Managing partner of U.S. Government Relations Intl.
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    ‘Vermin vampire’ and now an ‘elitist’. This has certainly been a full evening for me thus far!
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    @JeffreyLTaylor I don't very often get a chance to speak directly to those who are part and parcel of bringing this nation to it's knees. I know you sir. I know the personality you have to have to do what you do and what your career has been. I know the arrogance and the single mindedness. You see, we low information voters understand doing a job whether we like it or not so we keep getting that paycheck. Of course our paychecks pale in comparison to yours. But we do understand money Sir. You make huge money by getting our government to give even larger amounts of money to those you work for in return for them having giving money to the election campaigns that put them there in the first place. We understand that we are out of the loop. That we are just the cash cows that pay taxes so govt can live like feudal lords (and idiots....looking at you Michelle Bachman) and the rich get richer with our money without giving anything back. 11 years of the largest tax cut in history for the rich and we lost 12 million jobs. And yet your side continues to bark about jobs jobs jobs while your side takes those jobs to China, to Bangladesh, to Indonesia and India.

    We understand that for half a million or so you make every year you deliver billions in taxpayer dollars to those you represent. And all they had to do was pay you. That's pretty impressive actually. You actually are an elitist. You can steal our money for your employers and then have the credibility with Politix to get space to come on here and insult the voters and bitch about the media. That is impressive. But what do I know? I'm just a low information voter.
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    @JeffreyLTaylor I appreciate your comments and thank you for your time. If you were another left leaning Liberal you wouldn't have been called one name...rather
    you would have had many vote-ups. Thanks again, I agree with a lot of your comments. Be sure to come back and share some more of your knowledge with us.
    ~ MIMI ( ;
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    Lets take a look at this and compare.King obama had close ties to a terrorist that bombed and killed inside America the liberal media asked or reported 1 time on his connection with Bill Ayers.Keep in mind obama announced his run for president from Ayers living room.Rubio all though I didnt know was a water drinker,how in the world did he think he could fool the American people?
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    How can you tell when you're dealing with a tea bagger? When they trot out the tired old Billy Ayers story. I could name you 100 thing I don't like about obama without dragging out that bunch of BS again.
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    @jessejaymes good for you my boy .Those like you are the cause for blindness in America.Forget the fact your president was associated with such felons,forget your boy was a member of holy trinity church with the reverend wright that blames white people. for all of Americas ills.If you had taken the time to reed barrys own books to see what kind of America he envisions perhaps you would understand .
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    @miketost I voted for Gary Johnson. I don't like Obama but you're being ridiculous and your extremist near KKK rhetoric is why Obama got reelected. The majority of people in this country like rednecks less than they liked Obama.
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    LOL call me what you want thats fine .Do you have any idea where the term redneck originated?Let me help you it was a group of miners in West virginia that opposed unions and was attacked by the federal government.When the sh -t hits the fan soon rednecks could become your best friend,I doubt it but maybe.You have a nice night and good luck in the future.
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    The only people killed by the Weather Underground were members of the WU. Three members creating a bomb blew themselves up by accident; however, when the Weather Underground started bombing after that, they made sure to give fair warning and nobody ever died. Also, Ayers was the most nonviolent of the lot. He was the de facto leader of the WU after the three members died, and he was the one who forced the more violent sections of the WU to not kill. If that is a terrorist, that is a model terrorist. They only attacked government buildings and no one was ever even wounded. How terrorizing is that? Not at all, unless you're the government. Besides that, Ayers is a highly respected academic in the 21st century, and an authority on childhood education.
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  • #132
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    I want to thank everyone who took the time to comment on my op-ed today. POLITIX is a terrific resource and forum and it is made better when people of vast and varying views share their thoughts on issues of the day and especially when guest contributors share some thoughts as I did today. Thank you everyone. Jeff
  • #99
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    I’ve called no one a low information voter. That term is a made up term. It was made up by the news media itself in their numerous post-election analyses of what they did right and wrong. My point of using their term was simply to suggest that the media wonders aloud about how to connect with the low information voter while broadcasting 24 hours of Rubio’s ill-advised sip of water. I think it is incumbent of the news media to raise the level of discourse and discussion. Inform us. Make us think. The news media does not advance that when we they fixate on a sip of water!
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    Once again these low information voters want more than rhetorical speeches from both sides. We're sick to death of all of you. Rubio did not make a great speech. He shared nothing new, nothing exciting but simply rhetoric we have heard from the GOP in the past 4 years with the singular nod to the Latinos which is of no impact whatsoever because he is Hispanic.. I was a Republican for most my adult life and I'm now 66. When you start losing people like me you need to look in the mirror. We're sick to death of the rhetoric and the only solution the GOP has is to attack the seniors after GW Bush raided social security worse than any President in history. Rubio is a pretty face. But the words were tired old rhetoric and we're smart enough to know that. In the absence of substance, the press jumped on him for fooishness. Had he of sparkled and came with something worth hearing like Bobby Jindal talking about the GOP needs to change or Chris Cristie not sucking up the status quo, he might have gotten better reviews. What you are doing is partly line BS and we all know it. He floundered, he did not come off as informed or relaxed or as a leader. He came off as a young guy doing old guy rhetoric.
    And you blaming the media is wrong because he gave the media nothing else to work with.
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    Since Mr Taylor was a part of the Bush Administration when the savings and loan debacle exploded on the taxpayers face and cause yet another tax increase on the middle class to bail the rich, I would say to the readers of Mr Taylor's passionate plea for the press to "raise the level of discourse" that you might understand that a rough translation of what he's saying is, "GOP good, trust GOP" and never every make fun of anyone in the GOP. Only problem with that is most of us don't have an island to trade for 24.00 worth of trinkets. The Bush's bled us dry.
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    @jessejaymes He did call us low information voters. Read the article. and I quote:

    "And we wonder why there are low-information voters in America." He is inferring that anyone who didn't like Rubios speech has been influenced by the media (and not by what your own eyes and ears told you) and that if we didn't like it were are low information voters.
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    Let's not blame the liberal media because a U.S. Senator made the simple act of going for a sip of water appear to resemble something more akin to a jail-break, or a 12 year old cutting school, or a 2 year old with a full diaper.
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    lOLOLOL @"jailbreak". Those are all outstanding descriptions. And this "lobbyist" is here ripping o the press and low information voters. You don't suppose he's doing damage control do you? LOLOL I just love your post.
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    Sen. Marco Rubio took a drink of water...WOW WEE!!! I guess "THE OBAMA" hasnt ever had a drink of water before.
    Typical liberal Media.... what a laugh!!
  • #68
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    I’ve been a lobbyist for many years, so I’ve heard all the attacks on lobbyists. In fact, the name-calling in this string is rather mild compared to some of the things I’ve been called to my face. But I do wish we could get more feedback from people on POLITIX about the unending news stories on the sip of water. If you are not a fan of Rubio’s, then close your eyes and imagine it is Hillary Clinton or Charles Schumer or Nancy Pelosi who had just given a very significant speech – a speech worthy of deep consideration – and the only thing the networks focused on was a personal twitch or anomaly in the speech which had nothing to do with the substance of the speech. Marco Rubio is the main actor in my op-ed, but it could be anyone of significance. He made a serious speech and the news media focused on something insignificant. Are you happy with that whether or not the person is a Republican or Democrat?
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    There was NO substance to the speech. We "low information voters" are sick to death of RHETORIC. This country was built on compromise. Jesus H Christ on a Harley if the Dems and GOP were sitting today in Constitutional Hall trying to hammer out the document they'd be there for another thousand years. America is SICK TO DEATH of pork barrel spending and rhetorical BS. You have no right to establish parameters for the press than I do. You are a lobbyist. It is your job, your mission, to get money from the govt, taxpayer money, for those you represent. You have access we don't have and never will. Therefore we. as the low information voters of America. have no other choice but to assume that if a Lobbyist is writing columns defending Rubio then he must be bought and paid for by LOBBYISTS. You've done your man more harm than good by standing up for him because you have to know if there is one place on the face of this earth that both GOP and Dems agree on it is that Lobbyists are the biggest problem concerning the corruption of our govt. All you're done Mr Taylor is cost Rubio credibility.
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    Am I happy with it? Of course not, but I am used to it and the left does it all the time. I do not recall anyone, politically speaking that is, doing this to any democrat politician, ever. If I have missed it, I'd love anyone to provide me with a sample of one politician trying to totally annihilate another with the main stream medias blessing and cooperation. This is the new media. If you are a liberal, you get pass after pass and if you are a conservative or a rising "star" in the party, the media's first order of business now is to destroy you, it's called character assassination and the left does it quite well. They skip right pass the debate on the issues and immediately go into attack mode. I find it ugly and wish more Americans did too, apparently I am in a minority here. Civil discourse is a lost accomplishment and personal attack is the mode of the day.
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    @jessejaymes They'll change when the fiscal conservative/social liberal types break off from the party and it dies. I for one will celebrate its passing.
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    What this writer neglected to take into consideration is that journalists, such as we grew up with, the greats, do not exist anymore. There is really no group of real journalists on MSM at all, they are better described as pundits, akin to O'Reilly on Fox, opinion masters, spin masters and pickers of just what bits of news their people (meaning their fellow libs.) need to know. They dole out the bits and pieces that fit the agenda and like lemmings, all spout their White House given script that passes for news of the day. The kicker is that they are so well programed that they don't even bother to change the words around to make them seem like their own words, they simply repeat verbatim the script they are given. I believe they are allowed to still report correctly on local events, but I'm not 100% sure of that either.
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    I’m glad that POLITIX allows me to occasionally exercise my First Amendment freedom. I certainly wish my comments inspire some serious analysis on the role of the news media in informing our citizenry. I think the news media’s obsession with Rubio’s sip of water, instead of the contents of his speech, is a troubling trend and a dreadful course for journalism to travel. I’m not a supporter of President Obama, but if you read my op-ed, I said nothing critical or mean-spirited about the president. I could have… but I didn’t. I’d like this discussion to be as devoid of partisan politics as possible – but I understand that is a difficult undertaking on a site called POLITIX. I wanted this to be a discussion bereft of attacks and political slaps back and forth. I wanted it to be a discussion on the responsibility of journalism. The op-ed was just posted minutes ago, so I think it still can be a constructive discussion. And while people have a First Amendment right to use words like ‘tea bagger, ‘frigging lobbyist’ and ‘vermin vampire’, I hope some of the posts seriously speak directly to the role of journalism in informing and educating Americans on real public policy issues of the day. I look forward to reading the many posts.
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    You make money by convincing people you've know for decades to attach riders to bills to give money away to those you represent. You don't have a job sir, you have an extortion business. You give political contributions in return for pork barrel spending by those who hired you. You sir are not someone who needs to have a platform in this country. You should be on trial for stealing taxpayer money.
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    Is the role of journalism to take the side of the losers (Republicans, Tea Partiers) or to point out that they lost and should be more cooperative? Forget about the water. That's almost irrelevant. What is relevant is the obvious and total fear he felt. Rubio, with that one motion, showed himself to be an amateur incapable of being under pressure. If it's that much pressure giving a speech, how do you suppose Rubio would react to an increasingly belligerent China? I'll tell you how: poorly. If we want to be respected internationally, putting people like him on a pedestal - or even a podium - is not the solution. Look at it like this... you are attacking one side of media, the "liberal" side. That's a partisan move. How many articles have you written condemning Fox News declaring a new -gate conspiracy every 6 months centered around Obama? It says more about you than this so-called "liberal" media that talking about a desperate reach for a bottle of water gets you riled up but the hundreds to thousands of crazy things Fox News say don't get such a condemnation. If you're aiming to throw partisan politics aside, how about criticizing the biggest "fair and balanced" news network?
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    @Alekseeva Mr Taylor's editorial is nothing more than "damage control". Rubio delivered a canned speech written long before Obama's rambling War and Peace speech and he muffed it. He's not ready for prime time. So people like Taylor all over the internet are busy trying for damage control. By attacking the media. I didn't need to the media to tell me what I saw and heard. Rubio is a pretty boy, mile wide inch deep "token minority" for the GOP. It may work, it may not but this editorial is just typical right wing attack the media on behalf of business as usual.
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    Fox News gets it share of grief. The Obama White House spent nearly its entire first year in office condemning Fox News. There are organizations that exist today whose sole raison d'être is to attack Fox News. I’m sure if a guest contributor chose to write critically of Fox News, then POLITIX would gladly post the op-ed. By the way, Fox News did not drape itself in glory over this Rubio sip either; none of them did.
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    @JeffreyLTaylor Fox News gets its share of grief by leading entire movements like the Tea Party, trying to drum up a civil war, having the most established voices of the Party bend over for them, and even having its own fake psychiatrist? Dude. Fox News doesn't get nearly enough. They are by far the worst offender of media bias, and the fact that they have their very slogan as "fair and balanced" should tell you they haven't been hit nearly enough. Get out of here, you lobbyist. Topix is overwhelmingly oriented towards obvious right-wingers like you. The last thing is we need another lobbyist to further pollute honest debate and discussion.
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    Journalism: writing characterized by a direct presentation of facts or description of events without an attempt at interpretation. Does this describe what is known as journalism today? I think not. When some one who is speaking to the public cannot satisfy a bodily need such as taking a drink of water, regardless of who or what that person represents, without being chastised by the media. Then professinal journalism no longer exists. Seems to me with the advent of 24 cable news there 's not enough legetimate news to occupy this time frame, so what do get? Crap, to justify someone's job who try's to pass themselves off as a journalist even on this site!
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    American attention span is pretty short and easily distracted. News sources are a dime a dozen, all grabbing for any eyeballs they can get, by whatever means they can get them. Political viewpoints are more polar than ever. And our comedians now provide better analysis than our reporters.

    I don't think this is limited to liberal bias.
    And I'm sure the other side would do the exact same thing if given the opportunity.
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    I cannot believe this is even an issue...the guy was thirsty...big deal. There are larger things to worry about than this...like how many vacations the Obamas will take over the next four years...how many times Barack will play golf over the next six months...how many beers he will drink with the general public...how many mistakes he will make on his March Madness brackets...come on people let's get focused here... :rollseyes:
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    @jessejaymes Come on...Reagan was 74 when he took office for his second term...he was fighting with the Soviets...dealing with a bad economy...had been almost assassinated...dealt with the striking air traffic controllers...Obama is 51...
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    @jessejaymes Also, Obama still has 1436 days to attempt to catch up...I am sure he can sneak in a 100 days in there somewhere...LOL
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