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    These steps in this order.

    Step 1: End anchor babies.

    Step 2: Secure the borders.

    Step 3: Deal with the criminals.(Deport them and if they return execute them.)

    Step 4: Deal with the rest of the illegals.(Choose which ones will benefit our country and allow them stay. Deport all others.)
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    The people you call anchor babies are u.s. citizens. The 14th amnd is in the constitution, accept the constitution or feel free to self deport.
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    @Thunderchicken I'll wish you good luck with that, only cause I know it will never happen.

    How about a counter offer. We give all u.s. citizens a 30 or 40 question test on the u.s. constitution, grade it on a curve, and revoke citizenship and deport those who score in the lowest ten percentile. Bet there would be a lot less conservatives in the country if we did that...
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    @PoliticalSpice

    With this being stirred up, I'll be writing my reps about the 14th again. I should keep copies of the stuff I send them. I could just recycle old emails.
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    11 million is a huge number, to capture and deport this many people would be an under taking of historical portions. While I for one would be willing to mount this task, society as a whole would never be able to handle it. The fight( and there would be a fight ) would tear the country apart at the seams.
    Therefor, Immigration reform is the only viable option at this point. But first, our borders must be secured. Really secure. I'm talking about a major military presents. Shoot to kill secure. No one crosses without permission. Then and only then, can we start working on forgiving the criminals of their blatant breach of national security.
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    I'm supposing Obama is suggesting this plan is so, after his 8 useless years in office, he would become a legal resident also!!!!!!!!! All jokes aside, if we keep changing laws and rules to suit the whims of a handfull of people and NOT the wishes and desires of the majority, this country is going to become a communist state ruled by the 'clique'.
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    In my view Amnesty will lead to the same thing it did last time. Record numbers pouring across the border. I don't think many will follow an 8 year path to citizenship even so. It requires doing more than they doing now and frankly most I see are pretty content doing what they're doing now. And why shouldn't they be? The control the construction worker trade and virtually every other physical work trade. This whole thing is a farce frankly. You could just ignore the illegals are here with the exception of fining business who hire them such a steep fine per day per illegal worked that they would stop it and the problem would be solved.
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    Agreed....it's all a farce without controlling the border, what to do about the ones who don't adhere to the "plan" and (the 3rd one I now remember) what to do with employers who hire illegals. Without these, peeing into the wind is a safer bet!
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    I would also add a very substantial tax to any money wire xfered to another country. Its high time money made here stays here.

    I seriously doubt many illegals will follow a path to citizenship. Right now, I don't see an incentive in doing it; the govt is going to fine you and make you pay back taxes and taxes on current and future earnings OR you could go on living the same way you have illegally been living for countless years and hope the govt doesn't catch you.
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    @mtkopf You might also add the "rich" to that wire transfer thingy. I've heard that many have foreign bank accounts of money made here!
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    @stepped_in_it good. Serves them em effers right! Maybe they should INVEST IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY instead of betting AGAINST the U.S. dollar.
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    @stepped_in_it further, everybody has a way to fix the economy, that is until it conflicts with their own greedy interests.
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    I think that the 14th Amendment should be revised to avoid the anchor baby loophole. Also there is no reason the anchor babies mother can not be deported. If the mother wished to leave the baby with legal family in the U.S. she can do that or just take it with her. I do not think we need immigration reform, just need to enforce our current laws and to have strict penalties for employing illegals. Those penalties would force companies to stop hiring illegals and would greatly reduce the incentive for anyone to come to the U.S.
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    Drive 'em back across the border however it takes. Got an anchor baby, either take 'em with you or turn 'em over to the state but you leave. Put the full force of the military on the border to protect it. If they wanna be here there is already a legal process to do that.
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    I would like to see if the immigrant is a violent criminal that they be deported. We dont need to housing them in our prisons. We need to tighten our borders. That needs to be a top priority!
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    "apply for a newly created "Lawful Prospective Immigrant" visa. To be approved, they would have to pass a criminal background check, submit biometric information and pay fees." >>Great way to deal with the illegal to become legal! Just one question (maybe 3):
    1) What will happen to the ones, when caught after a "time period", that do not attempt to get this visa?
    2) What is in this law to stop future illegal immigration from happening (ie..border control)?
    3) HMMM.....give me a minute....lost my train of thought......ok, 2 questions!
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    How could they pass a criminal background check when they already broke the law by crossing the border ILLEGALLY?!?!?!?
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    @stepped_in_it yeah I kinda missed that...just woke up. I'm literally in bed, scratching my cajones, and posting here with my phone.

    From here on out, my new policy is: no more sending posts without first consuming at least 1 cup of coffee (or an equal amount of any caffeinated beverage).
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    @mtkopf Always been my policy! One more tidbit, don't confuse the hands when you're posting and scratching.....but that's just the "ick" factor in me coming out...LOL
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    I usually hear people complain that illegal immigrants are taking services without paying taxes. If that's the real objection, this should take care of it.
    I suspect the real objection for many folks is the "they don't look like Pilgrims" problem. In which case, too bad. Nothing is ever going to make a free country like the U.S. be an homogenous, bland blob of people who all look and dress and cook and act and think alike. And I'm glad of that.
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    Yea, thank goodness they don't cook alike. Ethnic food is one of the things I love about immigrant cultures. With the exception of cilantro (herb of satan).
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    I do not think anyone wants that, i think one of the main reasons is they refuse to assimilate and absorb the American culture which is comprised of many, instead they cling solely to their own and live like they are still in their former country. Very few people i have ever met or know oppose giving them amnesty and legal status do to the fact they are not white europeans, it has more to do with the criminality of their entrance into the U.S, their refusal to assimalte their culture into the melting pot and the fact they do take jobs that our own unemployed could take up. ( The myth it is jobs that Americans would not do is just that myth)
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    @PoliticalSpice Salsa isn't salsa with the "herb of satan". One of the things I miss living in the "mid" south is a real salsa, a pitcher of margaritas and warm chips (and a couple of tequila shooters on the side). Can you say designated driver? Down south, it's all water/souped down to a blah!
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    @stepped_in_it Cilantro is the only argument that would persuade me against mexican immigrants. I hate the herb. Ironically, I don't mind the ground seed at all. Guess its cause I support abortion of cilantro! Salsa needs tomatoes, needs chile peppers, needs a bit of bite. Cillantro is unnecessary and unwanted. They should make it illegal. I hate cilantro as much as ann coulter.
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    @PoliticalSpice Bahaha.....prejudice against a herb. Wondering if herbs have discrimination protection? Is it just cilantro or are there other herbs on your hit list? LOL
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    Tell me again, what were the details of conservative god Reagan's amnesty?
    Obama's plan sounds reasonable. And those back taxes and fees or better than the astronomical (and very NOT conservative) costs of deporting 11 million people.
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    The amnesty act under Regan didn't do much but legalize the illegals. IIRC there were some penalties for hiring illegals. But it neglected to deal with our porous borders. I was more POed about that than I was about Chrysler.

    You can bail a boat forever. But wouldn't it better to plug the leaks too.
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    reagan's shamnesty rang the dinner bell. all who agreed on the things that came with it never followed through by using those laws to the fullest. i keep readying folks here talk on history repeating itself well we all seen what the 86 shamnesty caused . that is another peice of history we should never repeat

    there is no reason to try and deport that many people when we have laws on the books already add in a few new ones and make it so rough to live here illegally they leave on their own. as it stands helping illegal aliens stay in the country is a federal felony,use it to the fullest for starters. the petty fines do businesses that hire illegal aliens does little,charge them with that felony also.
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    @tomincali Think of the world public and press releases of hundreds of thousands of illegals "marching" to the border starving to death. Does the words Bataan/Holocaust death marches come to mind? How about Africa's famine forced immigration marches. You might not give a rat's patooty about what the world thinks....I do!
  • #63
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    Join over 1 million legal American citizens against these law breaking Illegals at NUMBERSUSA.
    google it, and register. Take Action.
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  • #156
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    I am would agree to a path to residency as long as the first step includes jail time and fines based on how long the person was in the country illegally for. Seeing as they broke the law the first step should be to abide by the law and go to jail, pay your fine, go back to your country of origin and apply for citizenship with a marketable skill.
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    Here he goes again, Obama and his "Poison Pill". He has a perfectly good, bipartisan plan in the works in congress, one that would pass with bipartisan support and what does Obama do? His usual trick of upping the ante, asking for just a bit more than can be approved and all for one purpose. To scuttle the deal so he can continue to wrangle with congress (Republicans) because he thinks it will garner him more votes if there is discord with R's than if he actually WORKS with both houses of congress. He did this with Obamacare, and the big deal that fell through. He WANTS discord, he NEEDS a crisis, he is a drama queen who has more of a need to fight with Republicans to make a political point than to work with them in a bipartisan way to get some results.
  • #101
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    Regardless of what anyone "feels" or "thinks" - current law (passed during the last "amnesty") commands that all illegal aliens be deported. There is nothing to "discuss" or "debate". Our public servants have the clear and present lawful duty to enforce the law - they have NO discretion here, compliance is mandatory.

    If they can't or won't do their duty, then they should be immediately dismissed - and replaced with good Americans of integrity. The cost of enforcing the law is only a tiny fraction of the amount these 30 Million freeloaders now cost the American taxpayer. But then, those supporting "amnesty" are mostly free-loaders themselves.
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    Illegally immigrate or overstay a visa in any other country in the world and see where u end up......I can tell you right now prison for an indeterminate period....deported minus blood or body parts and definitely your money....or some third world dictator using your skull cap for an ashtray!!!!! NO ASYLUM FOR CRIMINALS REGARDLESS OF NATIONALITY OR BENEFICALITY TO THE NATION!!!!!
  • #95
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    Yes, dear liberals - it was wrong when Reagan did it, and it is wrong now. Reagan did a lot of liberal things that were wrong - like disarming 99% of the peaceable, law-abiding, California citizens in 1968.
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    The fact is that this situation exists because our leaders did not do their job, or in some cases made a half assed attempt to give the appearance that they were trying to do something to correct te situation. Now that they have it so screwed up and to a point where it is not manageable, they are going to dump the consequence of their failures, on the the people that they were suppose to serve and protect. This is SOP for uncle sam, why should anyone be surprised?
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    I don't support simply because I feel the motivation behind this effort is to secure more democratic votes. If the agenda isn't putting the welfare of the country as a whole, it's intent isn't right. People who say that they support these efforts because illegal immigrants have become a necessity for our economy are undermining their own logic because if the illegals are granted citizenship, employers won't be able to pay them under minimum wage anymore. They'll just be a whole lot more unemployed and unskilled minimum wage workers.
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