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    Let's go back to 21.

    That argument about voting and military service is a crock. Kids don't have the judgement or the perspective to cast a thoughtful ballot.

    Or maybe you should have to be a veteran to vote.
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    @GuitarGuy19

    The veterans thing was straight from Heinlein, in 'Starship Troopers'.

    On the other hand, I don't see why voters shouldn't have to do something to earn their franchise.

    One problem we have today is that people feel separate from their government, and that causes all sorts of problems.

    How should we fix that?
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    If they will vote in the general election, then it makes sense that they participate in the process leading up to that point. All in or all out. One or the other.
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    Wisdom of youth? Well it is California, and those bright young 18 yr old folks in 2008 who voted Obama are the unemployed 22 yr olds now. Go for it Cali. Maybe see if you can get to a trillion in debt soon.
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    Yeah but thanks to Obama they can go from high school straight to disability checks... smoke weed and suntan all day :-)
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    i think it should be raised to 30,by then hopefully they can see things for what they are and not just what the gov has been pushing on them in school.
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    What next? If all schools still taught Civics and made it a requirment to graduate, maybe we could even feel better about 18 year olds voting. But, many leave highschool without being able to read or comprehend what they read. The just get pushed along each year and then kicked out the door with a dipolma. Employers are then left to sort them out.
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    The last thing we need is more uninformed, uneducated, immature voters deciding our nations domestic and foreign policy.
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    Have you noticed that the Democrats keep pushing to allow illegal immigrants and now younger children to vote? This is because Democrats are mostly elected on the ignorant self centered vote. They want the people who think with their own self interests before the good of the nation.
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    Have you noticed that the Republicans do the same thing in trying to change times to better coordinate GOP voters, etc... etc...
    Both parties play that game bud, neither is innocent of promoting themselves and their continued existence. I say get rid of both, both have brought America to its current state, both should be held responsible.
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    @Fishbone345 I agree with you both have problems but the GOP stands for smaller Government, more freedom to the people, less Government mandates.... they are by far the lessor of two evils.
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    @commonsense51 "GOP stands for smaller Government, more freedom to the people, less Government mandates."
    Really? DOMA, PATRIOT Act, NDAA 12, all legislation brought forth by the GOP. All legislation that mandates peoples lives.
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    @Fishbone345 Patriot act? LOL, tell me how that prevents me from doing anything I want? Tell me how that raises my taxes or forces me to pay for abortions, or buy Obamcare. Do I care if some Government agency wants to taps phones to catch the bad guys who might kill my family? Not at all!!!!!!! If some idiot screws up and listens to my conversation. Gee, what will i do???? The sky is falling, the sky is falling. Get real!
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    @commonsense51 "Patriot act? LOL, tell me how that prevents me from doing anything I want?"
    It gives the Government the right to arrest you on charges of terrorism and detain you indefinitely without trial. A Government you yourself have said you don't trust.
    Perhaps you should get real.
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    Are they old enough to die for this country? Are they treated as an adult in the criminal justice system at 17? If you don't want them to have a decision as to how this country is govern, then don't ask them to die for you.
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    Hell no! In my opinion, our largely ignorant electorate is why we now have the social and economic problems that are destroying our country. If anything, we should be far more restrictive in who we allow to vote, possibly setting a minimum net worth adjusted by inflation, or some other similar standard to establish a responsible electorate.
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    Yet another great idea from the state of fruits and nuts.It would be so much easier to by a vote;Hey kid vote for me get a free video game.
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    Are we talking about voting from Prom king/queen or Homecoming king/queen? That's about as far as the majority can comprehend....let's don't clutter their minds with all the hormones flowing thru their bodies and minds!
    Unless, this is just another ploy by one party or the other (I'll guess democrat, since the teens think Obama is kwel) to ply more votes.....then, of course it's ok (was that a flying pig that just flew by my window?)
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    @PoliticalSpice
    17 year olds can vote in primaries if, and only if, they will be 18 by the time the general election rolls around. Good morning my friend! Happy Monday!
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    Actually the political parties can allow anyone they want to participate in their primaries. I am opposed to 17 year old voters being allowed to vote in 'real' elections, that is when representatives are elected or ballot measures are decided. 18 is young enough.
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    Lower voting age? Hell, half of them know more about celeb current affairs then whose Vice President! There may be some very smart 17 year olds but that's not the norm. I think the age should be raised to 20 as till the younger guys have some real work experience they don't have a good clue of what their voting for. I didn't start to until 25 as I had to re-educate myself from my overbearing father who was very right wing; believe me- it's hard to do so when your old man says, goodby, goodluck, your on your own- Get rolling! And if you have trouble finding a job there's always the Army. He was a retired Lt-Col who retired too early from the service for his likes. But jobs were more plentiful back then as opposed to now.
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    I say lower it to 12, promise them the government will take care of them, not to worry about ever supporting theirselves and you'll have a life long democrate! A vote is a vote! It doesn't matter if its a child, an illegal , or just a lazy person, every vote counts!!
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    NO, They don't have skin in the game. they aren't risking anything. They are primarily voting on emotion and peer pressure.
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